# Representative George Santos: Indictment and Prosecution (Expelled from Congress on Dec 1, 2023) **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [May 10, 2023, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850 "2023-05-10T14:28:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2023, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/181 "2023-06-22T17:39:26Z")
The names of the bond backers were released today: Santos’ father and aunt. I’m not sure I understand this: > Neither relative secured the bond with cash or property, according to a court order that was among the documents unsealed Thursday. But Santos’ father and aunt “agreed to be personally responsible” for the congressman’s compliance with the terms of his release, the order noted. Is that typical, that someone can secure bond without putting up any money or assets? [https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/22/politics/george-santos-bond-cosigners-family-members/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/22/politics/george-santos-bond-cosigners-family-members/index.html) ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2023, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/182 "2023-06-22T17:49:52Z")
Well that was a bit of a disappointment. So why was Santos so concerned about their names being revealed? If one was the sort of person who would harass Santos’s family for bailing him out of jail, I think one would have to be the sort of person who would harass them for just being part of his family. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2023, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/183 "2023-06-22T18:03:02Z")
Total speculation on my part: knowing their names makes it easier to do research and potentially discover who is _really_ backing the bond. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2023, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/184 "2023-06-22T18:11:33Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > So why was Santos so concerned about their names being revealed? Because he’s a dick and wanted to make things a difficult as possible. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2023, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/185 "2023-06-22T18:23:28Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > So why was Santos so concerned about their names being revealed? Perhaps Santos wanted to create the impression he had powerful people supporting him from the shadows rather than revealing he was being bailed out by his family. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2023, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/186 "2023-06-22T18:28:57Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Perhaps Santos wanted to create the impression he had powerful people supporting him from the shadows rather than revealing he was being bailed out by his family. That would be so on point for him too. 'Top people bonded me out, TOP PEOPLE!!!" ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2023, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/187 "2023-06-22T18:29:47Z")
Or, just as likely, his parents are also engaged in something shady and reminding people of their existence may not be in their best interests. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2023, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/188 "2023-06-22T18:32:19Z")
This. Santos just widened the list of known named suspects to 3. And their “friends”. And those “friends” “friends”. Dirty business has a lot of connections that are best left off the roiling rumor-mill part of the internet. ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2023, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/189 "2023-06-22T18:43:49Z")
He went from penny ante crimes like kiting checks, scamming puppies, to suddenly having wealth beyond normal means (loaning his campaign $700,000). Later said money actually came from somewhere else, somehow, who knows, obscurity ensues. Not to worry, the House ethics committee will be getting right on it. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2023, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/190 "2023-06-22T19:04:03Z")
Since this is George Santos we’re talking about, maybe they’re not **really** his dad and aunt. ---
**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2023, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/191 "2023-06-22T19:31:37Z")
They’re Santos-ish. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2023, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/192 "2023-06-22T23:11:14Z")
> [@smithsb](#): > > Not to worry, the House ethics committee will be getting right on it. Thank You! I was feeling down and needed a good laugh! ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2023, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/193 "2023-06-23T03:34:59Z")
> [@TroutMan](#): > > Is that typical, that someone can secure bond without putting up any money or assets? Whenever the lawyers stop by, please note I would also like to see the answer to this question. Thanks in advance for clearing up my ignorance on this subject. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2023, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/194 "2023-06-23T03:37:03Z")
Big Mike the Bail Bondsman [explains the difference](https://www.bigmikebailbonds.com/blog/difference-between-secured-and-unsecured-bail) between secured and unsecured bail bonds. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2023, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/195 "2023-06-23T03:46:54Z")
Thanks for the link, but I don’t see how Santos lands in the unsecured bail bond area. Unless he got that just because he’s a member of Congress. Because to my reading he fails all 3 criteria listed for unsecured bail. Or I’m just an ol’ meanie. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2023, 11:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/196 "2023-06-23T11:17:06Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > So why was Santos so concerned about their names being revealed? He didn’t want to admit that Morgan Fairchild wasn’t really his aunt. ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2023, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/197 "2023-06-23T13:12:29Z")
> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#): > > Big Mike the Bail Bondsman [explains the difference](https://www.bigmikebailbonds.com/blog/difference-between-secured-and-unsecured-bail) between secured and unsecured bail bonds. Hey! I remember Big Mike. I used him some years back when my brother got into trouble. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2023, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/198 "2023-06-24T16:40:22Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > > [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > > > So why was Santos so concerned about their names being revealed? > > He didn’t want to admit that Morgan Fairchild wasn’t really his aunt. Because she’s his _wife_! Whom he’s _slept_ with! Yeah, that’s the ticket…. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2023, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/199 "2023-08-16T23:01:36Z")
It’s not about him, precisely, but [George Santos’ fundraiser who impersonated the chief of staff to House Speaker Kevin McCarthy has been indicted.](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/samuel-miele-george-santos-linked-fundraiser-indicted-alleged-impersonation-house-aide/) Lot of those going around. ---
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2023, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/200 "2023-09-05T20:02:19Z")
A Santos court conference scheduled for today was postponed to continue discussions “of a path forward,” according to the NY Times. > Representative George Santos has entered talks with federal prosecutors about “possible paths forward” in his fraud case, an indication that the parties may be considering a plea deal. > > In a letter filed on Tuesday, prosecutors in the Eastern District of New York notified the judge that they intended this week to file a batch of new evidence against Mr. Santos, a Republican representing parts of Long Island and Queens. > > In their request to delay a court conference set for Thursday, prosecutors wrote that they anticipated making “another substantial production” of evidence this week and wanted to give Mr. Santos time to review the material. > > They added that the parties “have continued to discuss possible paths forward in this matter,” and would need “additional time to continue those discussions.” They asked that the status conference be pushed to Oct. 27. Could reality be settling in as prosecutors pile on more evidence against him? (Narrator: “Probably not.”) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850.md?page=11)