# Representative George Santos: Indictment and Prosecution (Expelled from Congress on Dec 1, 2023) **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [May 10, 2023, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850 "2023-05-10T14:28:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 22
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2023, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/421 "2023-11-30T17:17:51Z")
They kick down and kiss up. Santos has no political clout, so they can kick down. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2023, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/422 "2023-11-30T17:20:47Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > The most interesting point I see of this is Santos could certainly start naming names if he actually had any actionable dirt on anyone. I think at this point, Santos could come with a ton of evidence, and nobody would believe a word he said. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2023, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/423 "2023-11-30T17:26:42Z")
Plus, given all the info that started coming out as soon as Santos was elected, I would bet that the Republican Congress folk were keeping their distance from him from the start, to protect themselves. If so, he wouldn’t have any dirt to spill. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2023, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/424 "2023-11-30T17:27:28Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > So far the general R congressman’s reaction has been “Yeah, so. Bring your nothingburger if you want. I don’t care.” > > Which to me is a bit surprising. I’d have expected a more craven approach from the other Rs. We don’t know what their real reaction is until the vote is taken. I could easily see plenty of R’s falling back on “but he wasn’t convicted yet.” Speaker Johnson has already blazed that trail. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2023, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/425 "2023-11-30T17:36:52Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > So far the general R congressman’s reaction has been “Yeah, so. Bring your nothingburger if you want. I don’t care.” > > Which to me is a bit surprising. I’d have expected a more craven approach from the other Rs. They know _he_ got nuthin’ and people would ask for pictures if he said the sun was shining. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2023, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/426 "2023-11-30T17:52:57Z")
Has the Onion come out saying Santos was elected SotH? ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2023, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/427 "2023-11-30T17:53:23Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > Plus, given all the info that started coming out as soon as Santos was elected, I would bet that the Republican Congress folk were keeping their distance from him from the start, to protect themselves. If so, he wouldn’t have any dirt to spill. 100%. He’s a first-term Congressman who was almost immediately treated as radioactive by his colleagues. I rather doubt he got invited to any lobbyist-funded cocaine-and-orgies parties. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2023, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/428 "2023-11-30T18:04:46Z")
> [@flurb](#): > > I rather doubt he got invited to any lobbyist-funded cocaine-and-orgies parties. Hence his fit of pique. Said another way: > **Q** : Just how bad was George Santos as a Republican representative? > **A** : So bad that the other Republican reps noticed. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2023, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/429 "2023-11-30T18:06:43Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > The most interesting point I see of this is Santos could certainly start naming names if he actually had any actionable dirt on anyone. I doubt he has anything he can hold over anyone’s head. It’s not like he was an insider that other Republicans were bringing in on their deal making. Santos is a first term Congressman and his legal problems started almost immediately. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2023, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/430 "2023-11-30T18:12:18Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > Has the Onion come out saying Santos was elected SotH? South of the Hudson? Sisters of the Heart? Spirit of the Hunter? Surgery of the Hand? Strike of the Heart? State operated teaching hospital? ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2023, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/431 "2023-11-30T18:26:33Z")
Secretary of the Hinterior? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2023, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/432 "2023-11-30T19:55:52Z")
Speaker of the House, ya lunkheads. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2023, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/433 "2023-11-30T20:00:29Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > Norman, coordinate. This would have been funny from anyone, but with your username its elevated to hilarious. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2023, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/434 "2023-11-30T20:18:26Z")
The debate is going on now. It’s on CSPAN which you can see on YouTube ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2023, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/435 "2023-11-30T20:22:02Z")
msnbc as well. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2023, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/436 "2023-11-30T20:27:26Z")
There aren’t that many people there because this is just the debate. I read that the actual vote will be tomorrow. Santos has already spoken for himself as has the Republican head of the ethics committee. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2023, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/437 "2023-11-30T20:31:22Z")
If even a fraction of what Clay Higgins (R-LA 3rd) just said about Santos is true (hint: it isn’t), I’d want Santos to be the Executor of my Will and Godfather to my hypothetical kids. Sounds like a truly stand-up guy. Shame he got … what … railroaded … via a witch hunt? Do I have that right? :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2023, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/438 "2023-11-30T20:34:56Z")
Gaetz is speaking for him now ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2023, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/439 "2023-11-30T20:36:31Z")
i have muted as santos is giving gaetz all the time he wants. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2023, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/440 "2023-11-30T20:41:18Z")
Santos is not speaking for himself. Mute or not 🙂 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850.md?page=21) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850.md?page=23)