# Representative George Santos: Indictment and Prosecution (Expelled from Congress on Dec 1, 2023)

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [May 10, 2023, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850 "2023-05-10T14:28:26Z")\
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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2023, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/441 "2023-11-30T21:29:03Z")

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You know you’re pond scum when Matt Gaetz praises you at length on the floor of the United States House of Representatives.

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2023, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/442 "2023-11-30T21:32:43Z")

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Gaetz didn’t praise him at all. Gaetz specifically said that this isn’t about Santos; it’s about not setting the precedent of kicking someone out who hasn’t been convicted. He then gave examples of other people who were accused of and even admitted to crimes who weren’t expelled

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2023, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/443 "2023-11-30T21:34:32Z")

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Ah, thanks.

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2023, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/444 "2023-11-30T21:37:48Z")

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My pleasure. The other person I saw speak for him made the same arguments but in a slow drawl and didn’t call other people out by name.

The expel side was bipartisan and mostly people from neighboring districts.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2023, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/445 "2023-11-30T21:45:13Z")

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> [@hajario](#):
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> Gaetz specifically said that this isn’t about Santos; it’s about not setting the precedent of kicking someone out who hasn’t been convicted.

Of course, Gaetz wouldn’t have been thinking of an example closer to home, would he?

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**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2023, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/446 "2023-11-30T21:57:14Z")

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> [@flurb](#):
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> Per Politico, Santos held a press conference this morning to reiterate that he won’t resign and that he’ll use his last remaining days to make a spectacle of himself.

So, business as usual for him? -_snerk_-

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2023, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/447 "2023-12-01T14:27:13Z")

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> [@flurb](#):
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> Per Politico, Santos held a press conference this morning to reiterate that he won’t resign and that he’ll use his last remaining days to make a spectacle of himself.

So we should expect a quiet resignation any moment.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2023, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/448 "2023-12-01T14:51:43Z")

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Santos already has gotten everything he wanted for the future. Name recognition, money, contacts, with just a soupçon of martyr for that topper. Expulsion means nothing to him except more cameras and headlines.

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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2023, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/449 "2023-12-01T15:12:06Z")

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I sincerely hope his future includes substantial federal prison time and seizure of illegally gained assets.

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**Author:** ![Skypist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skypist/32/169_2.png) [@Skypist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skypist)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2023, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/450 "2023-12-01T15:13:05Z")

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I wish they would shit or get off the pot with this one. I’m hoping they expel, but I’m tired of all the shenanigans.The GOP doesn’t even pretend to be trying to get down to the business of running this country.They just want to conduct a reality show 24/7 at this point.

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2023, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/451 "2023-12-01T15:57:10Z")

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> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> Santos already has gotten everything he wanted for the future. Name recognition

Which name, though? 😉

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2023, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/452 "2023-12-01T15:58:56Z")

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Going, going, gone…!!!

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**Post date:** [December 1, 2023, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/453 "2023-12-01T15:59:03Z")

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They have the votes

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**Post date:** [December 1, 2023, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/454 "2023-12-01T16:04:37Z")

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“Two thirds having voted in the affirmative, the resolution is adopted.”  
“The Clerk shall notify the governor of the State of New York of the action of the House.”  
“The chair certifies that in view of the action if the House, the whole number of the House members is 434.”

…and that’s it as for ceremony.

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I knew if I predicted the opposite, it would happen. Yay!

Bye Felicia!

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**Author:** ![Skypist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skypist/32/169_2.png) [@Skypist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skypist)\
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Awesome! Will he still get all his congressional goodies, even after “serving” so shamefully?

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**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2023, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/457 "2023-12-01T16:14:49Z")

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wow! that was not close at all. 311 - 114.

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**Post date:** [December 1, 2023, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/458 "2023-12-01T16:15:39Z")

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I like that he’s calling it a witch hunt. It’ll help people understand what Trump means when he calls things a witch hunt, that is, getting in trouble for doing things you’re not supposed to do.

> **[Rep. George Santos Expelled From Congress](https://www.tmz.com/2023/12/01/george-santos-expelled-congress/)**
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> Rep. George Santos has been expelled from Congress.

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> [@Skypist](#):
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> Will he still get all his congressional goodies

Well if I were the property office I’d count the desk lamps. The only “goodie” he would have as as a former member under the rules is his free entry into the House spaces AFAICT and that’s subject to change.

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**Post date:** [December 1, 2023, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/460 "2023-12-01T16:18:45Z")

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> [@Skypist](#):
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> Awesome! Will he still get all his congressional goodies, even after “serving” so shamefully?

He did not serve long enough to qualify for any pension or other retirement benefits.

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