# Representative George Santos: Indictment and Prosecution (Expelled from Congress on Dec 1, 2023)

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [May 10, 2023, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850 "2023-05-10T14:28:26Z")\
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Whew.

I’d love one from Alecia Beth Moore myself.

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
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> [@Cervaise](#):
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> Heh. No. Her favorite comedian.
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> He made a nice long video for her. Highly personalized. Very good gift.

I was thinking of doing one of these for a friend with a former NFL player. Is the number they quote accurate, or are there add-on fees or anything like that?

Thanks.

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**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\
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George has released a couple of videos. One of them is addressed to “Bobby” Menendez. He advises Bobby to hang in there and don’t give in.

He’s going on the Laura Loomer podcast tonight to spill some beans.

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
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John Oliver has a great summary segment on all this. I’m not sure if it’s on YouTube yet.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> > [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> > I can’t imagine any situation that couldn’t be made worse by me sending George Santos in pretending to be me.
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> Worse… Or **better**? At least if you are a fan of situation comedies.

That’s why I specified situations where Santos was impersonating me. I can definitely think of situations which would be made better by me paying Santos to impersonate somebody else of my choosing. In the words of the great Mel Brooks, _“Tragedy is when I cut my finger. Comedy is when you fall into an open sewer and die.”_

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2023, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/586 "2023-12-05T06:20:37Z")

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> [@Maserschmidt](#):
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> are there add-on fees or anything like that?

No, the number is the number, no surprises on the fee.

The thing you need to pay attention to, the thing that’s variable, is how responsive the celebrity is. Read the reviews. See how long it takes the celebrity to record and deliver the message: days? weeks? months? And take special note of what other people say about the kind of message the celebrity recorded, and how well they incorporated the specific requests in your purchase prompt (you have a short field, like 500 characters or something, so you can’t write a novel for the celebrity to respond to).

Some celebrities are very brief, giving you the minimum (“Hi (insert name), hope you’re keeping well in (insert city), good luck with the (thing mentioned in the prompt), bye bye”). Some celebrities are more verbose and personable (“Hi (insert name), I love visiting (insert city), I remember a story about one time I was there…”). I was willing to buy the Cameo for my wife’s favorite comedian because all the reviews said he was conscientious about taking the prompt into consideration and typically recorded a 3-4 minute message, and he definitely delivered. My wife loved it, and she still listens to it occasionally, two years later. But not everyone is like that, and that’s what you need to be aware of so you aren’t disappointed later.

If you have more questions, let’s take it out of this thread.

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> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#):
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> George has released a couple of videos. One of them is addressed to “Bobby” Menendez. He advises Bobby to hang in there and don’t give in…

Yes, and guess who hired him! I love love love this: [https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/04/politics/george-santos-cameo-fetterman-menendez/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/04/politics/george-santos-cameo-fetterman-menendez/index.html)

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**Post date:** [December 5, 2023, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/588 "2023-12-05T18:16:02Z")

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Fetterman has an excellent grasp of humor. From the article: "According to Menendez’s office, the senator told reporters at the Capitol on Monday of Fetterman, “I don’t think Mr. Clickbait’s donors will appreciate him using campaign funds to enrich George Santos.”

And an interesting note: "Santos has sold out of available videos multiple times during his first day on the app, Galanis said, and the company has continued to increase the cap on the amount of videos he is allowed to churn out.

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Y’see, that there’s a problem (of many) with the current culture. If you got someone run out of town on a rail, _ **leave him run out of town** _. Afterwards deciding you’ll bring them back but just all “ironic” only encourages them.

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Seriously, I adore John Fetterman, but don’t enrich this asshole!

We’re so stupid, how’d we ever learn to breathe. Meanwhile, I also Love Jared Moskowitz. Our beloved Smurf.

> <https://twitter.com/RepMoskowitz/status/1732074496620696017>

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> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#):
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> Seriously, I adore John Fetterman, but don’t enrich this asshole!

Congress needs to learn how to properly cornfield people.

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It’s annoying that Santos is getting so much attention and Cameo business, but I’m consoled by the fact that this is going to be very brief. He’s currently the flavor of the week for ironic jokes, and by next week that business will be gone. It’s humor based on the current situation, not the person.

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After he gets out of prison, I expect Santos to chase cameras as much as he can, generating recreational outrage for the masses, but limited returns for the DeVolders. The man is small time.

I’m wondering, after he’s paid his debt to society, how could Santos make a positive contribution to society, consistent with this habits and temperament? How could he make a negative contribution, given that the public is sick of the guy?

While I don’t doubt there will be biopics, I suspect kickbacks from them will be limited. Best case for the US public would be if he moved back to Brazil, but somehow I doubt whether that will happen. Recall that he married a Brazilian woman when he was 24, a relationship that some suspect was a sham marriage made for immigration purposes. So he is probably a US citizen.

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> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#):
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> I’m wondering, after he’s paid his debt to society, how could Santos make a positive contribution to society, consistent with this habits and temperament?

Dying promptly would be an excellent start.

> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#):
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> How could he make a negative contribution, given that the public is sick of the guy?

By continuing to exist. The general national public may be unaware of his small then-antics, but the world right immediately around this guy would be worse in every way for his existence.

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> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#):
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> While I don’t doubt there will be biopics

I disagree. I doubt there will be any movies made about Santos. He was an unsuccessful conman and liar who managed to get elected to Congress and then got kicked back out. Five years from now, his name will barely rate as a trivia question.

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> **[George Santos movie in the works at HBO](https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/4341350-george-santos-movie-in-the-works-at-hbo/amp/)**
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> HBO is reportedly set to produce a movie about Rep. George Santos (R-N.Y.), who was just expelled from Congress after a damning ethics report. Deadline reported on Monday that the network has optio…

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They optioned some book rights. We’ll see if the movie gets made. My opinion is that now that Santos is out, public interest in him will decline and HBO will decide not to actually make a movie.

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> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#):
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> I’m wondering, after he’s paid his debt to society, how could Santos make a positive contribution to society, consistent with this habits and temperament? How could he make a negative contribution, given that the public is sick of the guy?

I dunno, I’d tune in to watch him be humiliated on TV, somewhat like when Mr. Pillow did an interview while inside a claw machine.

But seriously, I fully expect him to try a (pre-Trump) Lindell-style recovery, he’s going to go away (hopefully in the prison sense) for a few years, then he’s going to find Christ (because 'murika) and claim to be rehabilitated. And perhaps some number of people will buy it. In an ideal world, he tries, gets caught with a bunch of prostitutes of both sexes, while doing lines of coke and it all burns down around him, and he ends up drifting from town to town along with Lindell on various ever-more-skeevy local Republican/Qanon rallies until he dies alone, friendless, choked on his own vomit after passing out in a $39.99 hotel room with a bottle of the cheapest rotgut in hand.

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Hasn’t he already found Christ before? If so, he’s going to have to invent New Christ or revert back to Christ Classic.

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> [@ParallelLines](#):
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> I dunno, I’d tune in to watch him be humiliated on TV, somewhat like when Mr. Pillow did an interview while inside a claw machine.

Kimmel absolutely milked both Lindell and Santos for comedy gold, often in the same night.

But in all likelihood the Santos jokes will go away, as he does too.

Before long he’ll only be a statistic, a footnote when the subject of Congressional expulsion comes up.

“You can’t expel someone who wasn’t convicted!”

“They did it to that Santos guy in ‘23.”

“…Who?”

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