# Representative George Santos: Indictment and Prosecution (Expelled from Congress on Dec 1, 2023) **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [May 10, 2023, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850 "2023-05-10T14:28:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 32
**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2023, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/621 "2023-12-06T17:42:26Z")
He doesn’t seem to be fading into obscurity, we’re talking about him here. ---
**Author:** ![Kron](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kron/32/12444_2.png) [@Kron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kron)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2023, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/622 "2023-12-06T18:06:50Z")
> [@TroutMan](#): > > It’s annoying that Santos is getting so much attention and Cameo business, but I’m consoled by the fact that this is going to be very brief. After all, Giuliani also did Cameo for a while, and it doesn’t seem he was super enriched by it… ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2023, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/623 "2023-12-06T19:51:08Z")
And across the pond so did Nigel Farage of UKIP. Cameo needs better failed politicians. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2023, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/624 "2023-12-06T20:03:58Z")
It’s the failed politicians who need the money. ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2023, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/625 "2023-12-06T20:24:05Z")
Well, we can also now hope that as he lacks even a hint of government benefit, all the non-federal/state lawsuits start piling up - I’m sure there are plenty of other financial chicanery (and not even well DONE tricks) that are going to turn up, and I’d love to see him get of out jail and be so broke that he sneaks back into the representative’s offices to avoid sleeping on the streets until his formal rights are revoked. ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2023, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/626 "2023-12-06T22:01:33Z")
The problem is most of Santos’ antics leave a bad taste in the mouth. Not all, but most. I agree that a sitcom with a con-man in the center has potential, but I don’t think the producers would want to make him a member of congress. Maybe a private eye? Or a lobbyist? As an example, Mission Impossible was based in part on the 1940 book, [The Big Con: The Story of the Confidence Man by David W. Maurer | Goodreads](https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/403452). I doubt whether Santos would be of much help to the scriptwriters. He just isn’t that good at what he does. ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2023, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/627 "2023-12-06T23:05:48Z")
Damn direct tv and ABC are fussing and so I don’t have any recordings this week. I’m sad. I really like his show. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2023, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/628 "2023-12-07T02:39:37Z")
> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#): > > I doubt whether Santos would be of much help to the scriptwriters. He just isn’t that good at what he does. That’s why a comedy, featuring him as a useless moron would be perfect. ---
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2023, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/629 "2023-12-07T05:05:41Z")
> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#): > > Damn direct tv and ABC are fussing and so I don’t have any recordings this week. I’m sad. I really like his show. You can watch it on [ABC.com](http://ABC.com). I thought I had Celebrity Jeopardy recorded tonight and when I tried to watch it, I found out about the dispute. I watched it online instead. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2023, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/630 "2023-12-07T12:56:19Z")
> [@psychonaut](#): > > nor _A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum_, nor any other comedy film or TV series that fictionalizes real-world historical characters for laughs. Who in AFTHotWttF is based on a real-world historical character? _Pseudolus_ and _Miles G;oriosus_ are characters from comedies by Plautus. Who was probably ripping off some Greek comic writer. ---
**Author:** ![psychonaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/psychonaut/32/4655_2.png) [@psychonaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychonaut)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2023, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/631 "2023-12-07T14:41:56Z")
I thought Plautus himself was in it, perhaps as a narrator…? I guess I must be misremembering. ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2023, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/632 "2023-12-07T16:01:06Z")
You may be thinking of Pseudolus — who, as @CalMeacham noted, was a crafty slave in Plautus comedies. He does what exposition there is in both the stage play and film (citation: yours truly, who played Pseudolus in summer theater mumble-mumble years ago). ---
**Author:** ![gkster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gkster/32/14107_2.png) [@gkster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gkster)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2023, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/633 "2023-12-08T17:52:11Z")
> [@gkster](#): > > Ok, the first 2 candidates mentioned in the article below are the ones I linked above, Tom Suozzi and Anna Kaplan. > The link below is a “gift”, so no NYT paywall. > > [https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/01/nyregion/santos-special-election-replacement.html?unlocked\_article\_code=1.Ck0.0mEr.pSejw75sCPDE&smid=url-share](https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/01/nyregion/santos-special-election-replacement.html?unlocked_article_code=1.Ck0.0mEr.pSejw75sCPDE&smid=url-share) The Dem candidate has been announced, Tom Suozzi, mentioned above. No R candidate announced yet. NY Times Gift link, no paywall: > **[Inside the Secret Meeting That Cleared the Way for Tom Suozzi’s Return](https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/05/nyregion/suozzi-santos-hochul-special-election.html?unlocked_article_code=1.EU0.Fx5V.ukCzY964tFl2&smid=url-share)** > > Gov. Kathy Hochul had been toying with blocking the former congressman’s nomination for the crucial special election to replace George Santos. Then a phone call came. And another article: > **[Democrats pick Suozzi to replace George Santos in special election](https://www.politico.com/news/2023/12/07/santos-seat-suozzi-00130737)** > > Party officials fall in line behind former congressman. ---
**Author:** ![vbob](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/vbob/32/4439_2.png) [@vbob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vbob)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2023, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/634 "2023-12-09T00:43:24Z")
> [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](#): > > Jim Bakker was found with prostitutes of both genders It’s 2023 folks! The possibilities are SO much broader than that now. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2023, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/635 "2023-12-09T00:52:28Z")
Ahhh, New York Democrat politics… so heartwarming to see traditions being upheld 😏 We may return to normality yet… ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2023, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/636 "2023-12-12T15:14:33Z")
George Santos is talking to the feds about a plea deal. > **[George Santos discussing plea deal with federal prosecutors, legal filing shows](https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/george-santos-discussing-plea-deal-federal-prosecutors-legal/story?id=105563873)** > > Former Congressman George Santos is talking to federal prosecutors on Long Island about a plea deal, according to a newly filed court document. ---
**Author:** ![gkster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gkster/32/14107_2.png) [@gkster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gkster)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2023, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/637 "2023-12-12T20:07:00Z")
> **hidden by What Exit?** > > Regarding the plea deal article above, “A trial has been set for Sept. 9, 2024. On Tuesday, Santos’ lawyers requested the trial date be moved to June, but the judge said she has a heavy case load and it is normal for such a case to take a year before trial, leaving the date unchanged.” > What would be the advantage to Santos to have the trial in June rather than in Sept.? > > Meanwhile, campaign emails started last week, and this is the 2nd one I’ve received from Tom Suozzi: > > " **It’s official! I am the nominee in the special election to replace George Santos** > [a glossy photo of Suozzi was here, and in it he looks fit and relatively young for 61, but Discourse won’t allow me to embed it] > > “Gkster”, it’s Tom Suozzi. Seth Moulton asked me to reach out with an important message. > > **Big news!! I was officially nominated as the Democratic nominee to take back the seat formerly held by George Santos!** > > Now, we have a special election on February 13, 2024. That is only 68 days from now!! > > This will be a tough special election. National Republican groups will spend millions against me. With your help and the help of a grassroots team we can win NY-03. > > REMOVED > > Thank you so much for your support. > > Tom Suozzi" ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2023, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/638 "2023-12-12T20:12:29Z")
I feel like I’m missing some context, here. Is there something we should know about Suozzi? ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2023, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/639 "2023-12-12T20:12:58Z")
Now I’m totally confused. Who is the Democratic nominee? Is it Tom Suozzi? Seth Moulton? gkster? If it is you gkster, good luck. ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2023, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/640 "2023-12-12T20:47:11Z")
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