# Representative George Santos: Indictment and Prosecution (Expelled from Congress on Dec 1, 2023) **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [May 10, 2023, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850 "2023-05-10T14:28:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 33
**Author:** ![gkster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gkster/32/14107_2.png) [@gkster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gkster)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2023, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/641 "2023-12-12T20:56:37Z")
LOL and thanks for the good wishes, but I’m not running! And I was confused too as to why Tom Suozzi, the Dem nominee campaigning to replace Santos and take back his own old seat, is piggybacking on Seth Moulton’s campaign. Moulton has represented Massachusetts’s 6th congressional district since 2015; here’s his bio: [Biography | Congressman Seth Moulton](https://moulton.house.gov/about/biography) ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2023, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/642 "2023-12-12T21:33:05Z")
**Moderating** I Removed the Link for the Call to Action. Do not make call to actions or donation requests without checking with the full staff first. {What Exit?} ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2023, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/643 "2023-12-12T23:03:48Z")
I hate that I love this. > ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/644 "2023-12-15T00:00:34Z")
Republicans have chosen their candidate to run in the special election to replace Santos: > **[New York Republicans pick Mazi Melesa Pilip to succeed George Santos](https://www.politico.com/news/2023/12/14/new-york-pick-mazi-melesa-pilip-to-succeed-george-santos-00131813)** > > Pilip, a Nassau County legislator and Israeli military veteran, was among 20 candidates interview by party leaders. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/645 "2023-12-15T00:17:37Z")
> [@flurb](#): > > Republicans have chosen their candidate to run in the special election to replace Santos: All I have to say is that I hope they ran a check on this one. ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/646 "2023-12-15T01:20:12Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > All I have to say is that I hope they ran a check on this one. I’m sure the press won’t be derelict in their duty this time. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/647 "2023-12-15T01:52:58Z")
> [@dtilque](#): > > > [@Atamasama](#): > > > > All I have to say is that I hope they ran a check on this one. > > I’m sure the press won’t be derelict in their duty this time. It sounds like the biggest opposition research issue with the GOP candidate so far is that she’s a registered Democrat. I don’t know exactly how party registration works in New York State, but in my state, I don’t think it matters. As for the press being derelict in 2022, this is both true and exaggerated. [Here is an editorial](https://www.theleaderonline.com/single-post/endorsement-robert-zimmerman-for-us-congress-ny3) from the normally GOP North Shore Leader endorsing Santos’s Democratic opponent: > [@](#): > > This newspaper would like to endorse a Republican for US Congress in NY3 (Oyster Bay, N Hempstead, NE Queens). But the GOP nominee - George Santos - is so bizarre, unprincipled and sketchy that we cannot. We endorse Democrat Robert Zimmerman. . . . > > He brags about his “wealth” and his “mansions” in the Hamptons – but he really lives in a row house in Queens. He boasts like an insecure child - but he’s most likely just a fabulist - a fake. . . . > > Classic Bernie Madoff “Ponzi scheme” fraud. > > . . . On paper Santos has raised over $2 million. But the money seems to have vanished - or never been there. Huge sums are listed with the FEC for personal expenses - like Brooks Brothers, Florida beach resorts, lavish restaurants and limo services - but many hundreds of thousands more disappear into a black hole of dubious “consulting fees.” > > Santos himself claims to have loaned his campaign nearly $600,000 - but he refuses - illegally - to file his federal financial disclosures. The last one he filed - in 2020 - shows Santos had no assets over $5,000. So where did $600,000 come from ? Or is it even real ? Fed-up Republicans are now calling him “George Scam-tos.” That paper missed the sheer volume of lies, but got to the heart of it. As for the New York City media, in their small amount of coverage of this suburban race, the problem is that they [focused on the novelty of the race being between two gay men](https://abc7ny.com/congress-long-island-zimmerman-santos/12410148/), IMHO an utter irrelevancy. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/648 "2023-12-15T02:00:57Z")
> [@](#): > > Pilip, a Nassau County legislator and Israeli military veteran, was among 20 candidates interview by party leaders. That should say “Allegedly”, there. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/649 "2023-12-15T02:29:34Z")
Robert Zimmerman?? Zimmy? Bobby? Lucky (Wilbury)? ---
**Author:** ![tofor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tofor/32/13727_2.png) [@tofor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tofor)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/650 "2023-12-15T12:26:14Z")
> [@PhillyGuy](#): > > As for the press being derelict in 2022, this is both true and exaggerated. [Here is an editorial](https://www.theleaderonline.com/single-post/endorsement-robert-zimmerman-for-us-congress-ny3) from the normally GOP North Shore Leader endorsing Santos’s Democratic opponent: Wait, so the only paper that caught on to Santos before he was elected was a Republican one? ---
**Author:** ![Daithi\_Lacha](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/daithi_lacha/32/5430_2.png) [@Daithi\_Lacha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Daithi_Lacha)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/651 "2023-12-15T14:36:49Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Robert Zimmerman?? Zimmy? Bobby? Lucky (Wilbury)? Chief? McCLOUD! (my apologies for the truly obscure reference and hijack) ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/652 "2023-12-15T14:47:43Z")
> [@tofor](#): > > Wait, so the only paper that caught on to Santos before he was elected was a Republican one? I don’t know. There are a bunch of weeklies to check. But I checked the Zimmerman endorsement in Newsday, the major Long Island daily, and they don’t mention any Santos lying except concerning Zimmerman’s position on bail: [Robert Zimmerman for New York’s 3rd Congressional District](https://web.archive.org/web/20221104125103/https://www.newsday.com/opinion/endorsements/robert-zimmerman-add-3rd-congressional-district-long-island-election-2022-j2nycyb6) Here’s a weekly that missed it: [Great Neck Record: Congressional Third District Race](https://greatneckrecord.com/congressional-third-district-race/) And USA Today also missed it: [First congressional race between two gay nominees marks progress for LGBTQ candidates](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2022/10/29/new-york-congressional-race-first-openly-gay-candidates/8234775001/) ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/653 "2023-12-15T15:11:12Z")
> [@Daithi\_Lacha](#): > > Chief? McCLOUD! > > (my apologies for the truly obscure reference and hijack) Nothing is ever really obscure here. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/1D6mdrSYBr0/hqdefault.jpg "McCloud! - MST3K Pod People") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1D6mdrSYBr0) ---
**Author:** ![Daithi\_Lacha](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/daithi_lacha/32/5430_2.png) [@Daithi\_Lacha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Daithi_Lacha)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/654 "2023-12-15T15:40:19Z")
Man, I love this place. ---
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/655 "2023-12-15T16:52:24Z")
> [@PhillyGuy](#): > > It sounds like the biggest opposition research issue with the GOP candidate so far is that she’s a registered Democrat. I don’t know exactly how party registration works in New York State, but in my state, I don’t think it matters. We used to have an attorney here in town who would run for DA under whichever party the current DA was not. He never won, but it was amusing to see him switch parties so shamelessly. ---
**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/656 "2023-12-15T17:02:47Z")
Classic episode. Even a Donald Trump reference! ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/657 "2023-12-15T19:17:08Z")
> [@Maserschmidt](#): > > Nothing is ever really obscure here. That episode especially, we played the following for nearly 4 years straight: > **[Trumpy! You can do Stupid Things!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bslu64OftQ%2F)** > > Trumpy's skill in life. > [@SunUp](#): > > Classic episode. Even a Donald Trump reference! ---
**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2024, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/658 "2024-03-08T02:59:48Z")
George just announced on X hes running again. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2024, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/659 "2024-03-08T03:05:34Z")
He was at the State of the Union Address tonight, taking advantage of his privilege as a former Member of Congress to be on the House floor. 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2024, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/660 "2024-03-08T03:33:53Z")
> [@SuntanLotion](#): > > George just announced on X hes running again. You expect us to believe George Santos is running for office again just because George Santos says he is? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850.md?page=32) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850.md?page=34)