# Representative George Santos: Indictment and Prosecution (Expelled from Congress on Dec 1, 2023)

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [May 10, 2023, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850 "2023-05-10T14:28:26Z")\
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If you don’t want to go look on Xitter, here’s a CNN version.

[https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/07/politics/george-santos-running-again/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/07/politics/george-santos-running-again/index.html)

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For anyone who thinks that George Santos is totally un-electable, consider these facts:

- Fact 1: He might be endorsed by a popular Republican who, in addition to glowing with the same bright orange hue as a dying sun, has told more lies in a single day than Santos has in his entire life, and has effectively positioned himself as _mein Fuhrer_ of the Republican party.

- Fact 2: He seems to have abandoned his distinctive black-frame glasses, so that voters – exhibiting all the perception and wisdom we usually associate with voters – will not know he is.

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**Post date:** [March 8, 2024, 7:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/663 "2024-03-08T07:55:44Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> Fact 2: He seems to have abandoned his distinctive black-frame glasses, so that voters – exhibiting all the perception and wisdom we usually associate with voters – will not know he is.

So voters are people in the Superman universe?

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> [@dtilque](#):
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> So voters are people in the Superman universe?

I was literally just about to post “so he’s using the Clark Kent strategy?”

“I’m George Santos.” _Dramatically takes glasses off_ “now I’m Anthony Devolder and I fight for lies, autocracy, and the Russian way!”

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> [@Jihi](#):
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> I was literally just about to post “so he’s using the Clark Kent strategy?”

Better Clark Kent than Tom Ripley…

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> Fact 2: He seems to have abandoned his distinctive black-frame glasses, so that voters – exhibiting all the perception and wisdom we usually associate with voters – will not know he is.

Slight correction: "_own the libs", anti-science, election denying, fascist-supporting, percieved-priviledge-losing Republican_ voters.

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I am pretty sure I know why Santos is running.

[CNN: George Santos appears in federal court as trial looms later this year](https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/23/politics/george-santos-court-hearing/index.html)

> The next court proceeding is scheduled for August 13. A trial is expected in September.

I expect this is a delaying tactic inspired by his dear leader Donald Trump, to request pushback of the trial in order to not interfere with the election. I have a feeling it won’t work, but that’s my WAG.

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A reasonable theory.

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Is he going to run in the same district as before, or will he pull a Boebert?

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Allegedly boeberting to NY-1 so he can primary challenge Rep. LaLotta, one of the R’s who led the calls to remove him. i.e. he wants to try to cost the NY GOP another district.

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> [@snowthx](#):
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> > [@wolfpup](#):
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> > Fact 2: He seems to have abandoned his distinctive black-frame glasses, so that voters – exhibiting all the perception and wisdom we usually associate with voters – will not know he is.
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> Slight correction: "_own the libs", anti-science, election denying, fascist-supporting, percieved-priviledge-losing Republican_ voters.

Since we’re on a Superman jag, may I quote Lois and Clark?

[![](https://y.yarn.co/f6458849-ba62-47c5-b824-3f22c4b92162_text.gif) ](https://y.yarn.co/f6458849-ba62-47c5-b824-3f22c4b92162_text.gif)

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> [@Shoeless](#):
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> …or will he pull a Boebert?

I thought it was Boebert doing the pulling?

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> [@JRDelirious](#):
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> Allegedly boeberting to NY-1 so he can primary challenge Rep. LaLotta, one of the R’s who led the calls to remove him. i.e. he wants to try to cost the NY GOP another district.

Is it a firmly red district, or is there a chance for a Dem to slip in?

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> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> Is it a firmly red district, or is there a chance for a Dem to slip in?

Looks like recently a 4% spread.

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It’s rated R+3, although the current R won by 10 points in 2022.

But even if it stays R, there’s the risk of collateral damage. Every NY Democrat could use Santos as an example of the ridiculousness of the Republican party, whether they’re running against him directly or not. That could sway a close race.

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> [@TroutMan](#):
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> But even if it stays R, there’s the risk of collateral damage. Every NY Democrat could use Santos as an example of the ridiculousness of the Republican party, whether they’re running against him directly or not. That could sway a close race.

It’s not like the Democrats are going to suffer from a lack of examples of that in 2024.

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And it potentially forces LaLotta to waste time and money up front that he could use to support other R candidates or in his own general campaign.

OTOH George can just be throwing shit around for the lulz.

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> [@TroutMan](#):
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> But even if it stays R, there’s the risk of collateral damage. Every NY Democrat could use Santos as an example of the ridiculousness of the Republican party, whether they’re running against him directly or not. That could sway a close race.

That’s quite true. But the “NY” bit is probably superfluous.

D’s all over the _country_ should be decrying the sort of party that embraces a Santos as a good example.

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This just in from X. George is now filing as an Independant.

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> D’s all over the _country_ should be decrying the sort of party that embraces a Santos as a good example.

It’ll probably go the other way. The Republicans will hold up Santos’ removal from office as an example of how they uphold moral standards (ignoring the reality that they were forced by the Democrats) in order to draw attention away from the fact that they’re running a much worse candidate as their Presidential nominee.

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