# Representative George Santos: Indictment and Prosecution (Expelled from Congress on Dec 1, 2023)

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [May 10, 2023, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850 "2023-05-10T14:28:26Z")\
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And Takuma Sato, Japanese Formula One driver. 9 Time World Champion! That’s the Ticket!

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> A fictional autobiography?

“If I Did It: Confessions of the First Man to Ascend to the Presidency following a Drag Queen Career.”

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> **[Ousted Congressman George Santos Revives Drag Queen Persona on Cameo](https://www.tmz.com/2024/05/01/congressman-george-santos-drag-queen-cameo-video-kitara-ravache/)**
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> George Santos breathed new life into his old drag queen persona -- bringing back his old shtick in a new video ... where he seems inclined to say hello for some cash.

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**Author:** ![PatrickLondon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/patricklondon/32/4422_2.png) [@PatrickLondon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatrickLondon)\
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> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> where he seems inclined to say hello for some cash

There’s a word for that

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**Post date:** [May 1, 2024, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/745 "2024-05-01T14:54:06Z")

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Not that there’s any reason to believe him at this point, but if this video is true, he’s raising money for a 9/11 foundation.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/QkNv8YcgEp4/maxresdefault.jpg "Lying ex-Rep. George Santos revives drag persona ‘Kitara Ravache’ for Cameo cash") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkNv8YcgEp4)

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**Author:** ![PatrickLondon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/patricklondon/32/4422_2.png) [@PatrickLondon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatrickLondon)\
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You think it might be a cosmetic exercise?

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
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> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> Not that there’s any reason to believe him at this point,

On the one hand he is totally untrustworthy, but on the other hand is he really stupid enough to try to run the same scam that he is about to be sent to prison for? OK, maybe there is just the one hand.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
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> [@Northern\_Piper](#):
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> > [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> > “I like the way Sotnas thinks!”
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> I read that as “Snotas”.
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> I have a 5th grader’s sense of humour.

He snotas impressive a candidate as Santos.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> On the one hand he is totally untrustworthy, but on the other hand is he really stupid enough to try to run the same scam that he is about to be sent to prison for? OK, maybe there is just the one hand.

He probably figures he can run the con as Kitara and then after he gets the money, he’ll take off the dress and go back to being George - who denies Kitara even exists.

It’s the perfect crime.

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How can anyone not admire him?

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> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> Not that there’s any reason to believe him at this point, but if this video is true, he’s raising money for a 9/11 foundation.

It makes sense, all 18 of his mothers barely escaped when the towers collapsed.

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Was that before or after he single-handedly brought down the plane that crashed into the pentagon?

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I forgot about that one.

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> **[Former congressman George Santos expected to plead guilty to charges related...](https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/16/politics/santos-expected-plead-guilty-campaign-fraud/index.html)**
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> Former New York Rep. George Santos is expected to plead guilty Monday to federal charges relating to fraudulent activity during his 2022 midterm campaign, according to multiple sources familiar with the deal.

No details of what the agreement includes.

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He’ll do well in prison.

ETA: For those who think I meant something that involves Mr. Santos’s mistreatment, I didn’t. I meant simply that he’s a con artist of the first order, and he will undoubtedly be in his element to capitalize on his strengths there.

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I’ve also heard that con men tend to be respected by the rest of the inmate population on account of their contriving ways to “beat the system”, though being incarcerated suggests they weren’t that good at it.

Would Trump if elected pardon Santos? It’s been observed that the two [have a lot in common](http://talbotspy.org/george-santos-and-donald-trump-by-j-e-dean/).

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> [@Aspenglow](#):
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> I meant simply that he’s a con artist of the first order

No, telling lots of lies doesn’t make you a con artist of the first order. A successful con artist is somebody who gets away with telling lies.

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He got elected. He was successful for a time, at least. And it took a tremendous effort to get him ousted from his position.

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> [@Jihi](#):
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> Was that before or after he single-handedly brought down the plane that crashed into the pentagon?

I thought Hani Hanjour single-handedly brought down the plane that crashed into the pentagon.

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> Would Trump if elected pardon Santos? It’s been observed that the two [have a lot in common](http://talbotspy.org/george-santos-and-donald-trump-by-j-e-dean/).

Can Santos do anything for Trump? No. That should answer your question.

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