# Representative George Santos: Indictment and Prosecution (Expelled from Congress on Dec 1, 2023) **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [May 10, 2023, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850 "2023-05-10T14:28:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 41
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2025, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/801 "2025-04-26T03:09:26Z")
How long until he pretends to be the warden and _orders_ his own release? ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2025, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/802 "2025-04-26T03:14:57Z")
I realize I started this particular line of jokes but on a serious note you do realize that a warden has no more authority to release a prisoner than a guard does? I point this out because I’ve often seen comments by people who seem to feel that prison authorities have some control over who’s in prison. We don’t; all decisions about who goes into prison and who comes out of prison are made by people outside of prisons. ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2025, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/803 "2025-04-26T12:24:55Z")
The release orders will be coming from the attorneys general office signed by Ron Vero, Anthony Zabrovsky\* and Anthony Devolder\*. Perfectly legitimate. \*Two, of a longer list, of his aliases. ---
**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2025, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/804 "2025-04-26T22:02:05Z")
His X account has posted that something will happen in 90 days. People are mentioning appeal. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2025, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/805 "2025-04-26T22:18:35Z")
> [@SuntanLotion](#): > > People are mentioning appeal. I mean, he must be _kinda_ charming if he stole so much money, but I don’t see it. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2025, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/806 "2025-04-26T22:26:59Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > First thing we teach the new guys; if a prisoner tells you you’re supposed to let him go, always check with the sergeant first. Eminently sensible; when in doubt, you should always defer to Sergeant Santos. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2025, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/807 "2025-04-27T02:30:43Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > I realize I started this particular line of jokes but on a serious note you do realize that a warden has no more authority to release a prisoner than a guard does? I point this out because I’ve often seen comments by people who seem to feel that prison authorities have some control over who’s in prison. We don’t; all decisions about who goes into prison and who comes out of prison are made by people outside of prisons. Yes, I know. It was a joke. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2025, 8:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/808 "2025-04-27T08:36:52Z")
I mean, a warden can release any prisoner they want - just not legally. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2025, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/809 "2025-05-10T11:21:51Z")
> [@SuntanLotion](#): > > His X account has posted that something will happen in 90 days. People are mentioning appeal. Has it been 90 days yet? He’s asking for a pardon from the Great Blumpkin. Changed his mind, I guess. > **[George Santos Begs for 'Whatever' Trump Is 'Willing to Give' as Former...](https://www.latintimes.com/george-santos-begs-whatever-trump-willing-give-former-lawmaker-faces-years-behind-bars-582754)** > > George Santos is asking Donald Trump for clemency ahead of his July prison surrender, calling his seven-year sentence for fraud "unfair" and politically driven. ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2025, 11:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/810 "2025-05-10T11:58:44Z")
His letter to Trump was returned marked, INSUFFICIENT FUNDS ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2025, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/811 "2025-07-25T18:39:30Z")
The day has come > **[Disgraced former Rep. George Santos to begin seven-year prison sentence today](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/disgraced-former-rep-george-santos-begin-seven-year-prison-sentence-rcna221069)** > > The former New York Republican congressman is set to report to prison after pleading guilty to federal fraud charges. He was expelled from Congress in late 2023. ---
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2025, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/812 "2025-07-26T23:25:41Z")
This guy is a worthless idiot and the smallest of fries in the grand scheme of things, but boy is it nice for one of these assholes to face some fucking consequences for their actions, for once. ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2025, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/813 "2025-07-27T06:28:39Z")
Generally I would believe you. But I saw a documentary called _Idiocracy_ recently and given its continually increasing degree of predictive accuracy, while you may be correct about the past I’m not sure about the present, let alone the future. ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2025, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/814 "2025-07-29T23:37:26Z")
You think Santos introduced himself as the new warden on his first day? ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2025, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/815 "2025-07-29T23:41:19Z")
> [@SuntanLotion](#): > > His X account has posted that something will happen in 90 days. People are mentioning appeal. Well, something did indeed happen in 90 days. He actually told the truth for once. Must have been an accident. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2025, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/816 "2025-07-30T16:41:32Z")
I can see him trying to convince the guards that he’s actually an undercover prison inspector, and so he’s only in there to see how conditions are, and once his report is complete he needs to leave to report back to the Bureau of Prisons. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2025, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/817 "2025-07-30T17:31:28Z")
Frankly, although he’s a total douchebag scoundrel, I’d love to see him pull that off. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2025, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/818 "2025-07-30T18:14:12Z")
I vaguely remember reading a story with a similar plot. A cop was sent undercover to prison to uncover guard corruption then the governor who’d sent him died and there was no paper-work. He was not happy. ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2025, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/819 "2025-07-30T23:23:15Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > I can see him trying to convince the guards that he’s actually an undercover prison inspector, and so he’s only in there to see how conditions are, and once his report is complete he needs to leave to report back to the Bureau of Prisons. Far less complicated scams have worked recently: > **[Arkansas prison guards fired over escape of killer dubbed ‘Devil in the Ozarks’](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jul/11/devil-in-ozarks-escape-arkansas-guards-fired)** > > Officials say breaches by two staff members let Grant Hardin walk free, and lawmakers warn of deeper security failures > Authorities said he escaped by donning an outfit designed to look like a law enforcement uniform. Magness said the outfit was crafted from an inmate uniform and a kitchen apron dyed black using a marker – while a soup can lid and a Bible cover were fashioned to look like a badge. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2025, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/820 "2025-07-31T04:58:05Z")
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