# Representative George Santos: Indictment and Prosecution (Expelled from Congress on Dec 1, 2023)

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [May 10, 2023, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850 "2023-05-10T14:28:26Z")\
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> <https://x.com/MrSantosNY/status/1979675136874962965>

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Trump’s going to be annoyed that Jesus got thanked first.

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I think that Trump will assume the the “Lord and Savior” part is referring to him.

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**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\
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Huh, so the embrace of Christianity is going to be the new scam.

Hardly original.

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**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\
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Everybody finds Jesus in prison. So I’ve heard.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
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I think people find Jesus on their way to a parole board hearing.

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**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\
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True. Given Santos’ track record I expect him to start a “ministry” of some sort to bilk the MAGA rubes.

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**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\
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Hey Ice, this guy’s a brown foreigner.

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I don’t think Santos’ prior track record gives me any reason to accept _this_ apology as being genuine. I _might_ have been slightly more forgiving if part of his apology had mentioned about working to earn money (not donations) to of his own free well to pay back the state and individuals he defrauded.

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> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#):
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> Everybody finds Jesus in prison. So I’ve heard.

Yeah, he’s in the next cell over from Jose, two down from Miguel.

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**Post date:** [October 20, 2025, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/representative-george-santos-indictment-and-prosecution-expelled-from-congress-on-dec-1-2023/983850/871 "2025-10-20T13:13:17Z")

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> [@PhillyGuy](#):
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> I have no reason to think Sandos hasn’t voted for the Trumpy right whenever he could.

The only time he would vote would be when he was on the ballot. Why bother any other time, what’s in it for him?

> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#):
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> Huh, so the embrace of Christianity is going to be the new scam.

It doesn’t count as a scam any more – it’s a prerequisite. _Republican Evangelical grifter_ go together; it’s a package deal. The only area for creative storytelling will be how everything he did was the Democrats’ fault.

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Watched _Vaush_ earlier, and he was celebrating this. His reasoning was that Santos is hated by people on both sides of the political spectrum, so it will backfire on Trump.  
But I just think it’s another sad page in a fucking big book of things to be dismayed about. And I don’t see it hurting Trump – for those of us who care about the rule of law, we were already at max outrage. And MAGA don’t care when it’s their side.

They’ll be a lot for a future democratic (small d) president to fix, I would hope that reform of the pardon power is high on the list.

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> [@Mijin](#):
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> Watched _Vaush_ earlier, and he was celebrating this. His reasoning was that Santos is hated by people on both sides of the political spectrum, so it will backfire on Trump.

It doesn’t seem to be a leading news item. Maybe it’s just fatigue but people mostly seem not to care. I may have missed it if I didn’t read it here.

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Yes to all you said.

Criminal trump made a very big example of Santos. And not in the usual way. What trump said loud and clear was

> All loyalists are above the law. King trump will protect all loyalists, no matter how scurvy, and will throw all non-loyalists to the dogs. Any prosecutor anywhere thinking of prosecuting a loyalist should stop now; even if you win, it’ll be pointless as king trump overturns your work at a glance.
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> Beyond that, everyone everywhere should decide which side they’re on: loyalist, or soon-to-be-unpardonable-criminal.

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One of the Jan 6th traitors was being sentenced after Trump won and the judge asked him if he had anything to say before sentencing. He said something like, “whatever. Trump is going to pardon me in a few weeks,”

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So it was another life when he was in Brazil?

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Nobody would’ve believed he wrote it if any of it was true

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Update in the soap opera drama that is Santos!

[https://www.npr.org/2026/06/02/nx-s1-5843371/george-santos-kalshi-insider-trading-investigation](https://www.npr.org/2026/06/02/nx-s1-5843371/george-santos-kalshi-insider-trading-investigation)

> “Watching SOTU from an airport tv was not part of the plan! FML,” Santos [wrote](https://x.com/Georgesantos/status/2026433381911638407) on X, using slang for a more coarse way of saying, “screw my life.”
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> He posted the message as Trump was speaking, making those same odds in the Kalshi market plummet.
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> What Santos didn’t say was that he had already placed bets on Kalshi that he was _not_ going to appear at the State of the Union address, according to three people with direct knowledge of his trades who were not authorized to speak publicly. They say Santos misled the public and turned a profit based on that deception in the tens of thousands of dollars.

If proven, a new low (?) of petty grifting. Of course, there’s always tomorrow to set the bar low **ER**.

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From that article:

> He went on to say the co-founder of Kalshi, Luana Lopes Lara, is “a fellow Brazilian” whom he personally knows. He said he would call her to get to the bottom of whether an investigation had been launched.
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> The person familiar with Kalshi’s investigation said Santos, the son of Brazilian immigrants, does not know Lara, a Brazilian-American.

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It appears that Santos just lies as reflex and instinct. Why not? It costs him nothing.

[https://www.npr.org/2026/06/04/nx-s1-5846966/george-santos-kalshi-threats](https://www.npr.org/2026/06/04/nx-s1-5846966/george-santos-kalshi-threats)

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> [@ParallelLines](#):
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> If proven, a new low (?) of petty grifting. Of course, there’s always tomorrow to set the bar low **ER**.

> **[Kalshi bans ex-Congressman George Santos for life after concluding he likely...](https://apnews.com/article/kalshi-george-santos-lifetime-ban-c8ac3e25aec55cd5509485a84f79f9e0)**
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> The online prediction market platform Kalshi has permanently banned former U.S. Rep. George Santos after concluding the former Republican congressman likely engaged in insider trading when he made over $17,000 betting against his attendance at the...

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