# Republican Debate 2/6/16 **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [February 7, 2016, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-debate-2-6-16/745376 "2016-02-07T01:37:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![MacCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maccat/32/216_2.png) [@MacCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacCat)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2016, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-debate-2-6-16/745376/61 "2016-02-07T17:31:44Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > Meanwhile, the wounded and maimed veterans of these wars, and the widows/widowers and children of those killed will get the usual: diddly-squat. They care about the useful “befores” - military, fetuses… The deadwood “afters” - the wounded & damaged, babies & children, not so much… ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2016, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-debate-2-6-16/745376/62 "2016-02-07T17:32:20Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > She’s a bit of a rock star in the conservative blogosphere. I’m a big fan. Thanks for the warning! 😉 > [@Nema98](#): > > And a cutie also, I’d date and gobble her up. Ya see, that was always my problem, from joining the Teen Aged Republicans because of a girl to being willing to make allowances for the peccadilloes of Heather Locklear and Lynda Carter. :o > [@adaher](#): > > George would have snickered at him and said, “Asshole.” and then make a point of loudly farting whenever Trump tried to speak for the rest of the debate. I imagine he’ll do that to JEB! next Thanksgiving. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2016, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-debate-2-6-16/745376/63 "2016-02-07T17:34:00Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > Can anybody explain to me why we need “to rebuild the military”? It’s part & parcel of the GOP drumbeat for the last 36 years: [America was great, but somehow is not anymore](http://www.oldpoliticals.com/ItemImages/000014/18692_lg.jpeg). ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2016, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-debate-2-6-16/745376/64 "2016-02-07T17:38:33Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > Unfortunately, I haven’t seen it, other than the side-splitting opening which I posted above. > > I had other obligations last night and my TIVO recently died. Anyone know if the full debate is online anywhere? [![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMWux69RDRM) ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2016, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-debate-2-6-16/745376/65 "2016-02-07T17:40:15Z")
Wait a minute. Mary Katherine…Ham? If you were planning on becoming a public figure, wouldn’t you first DO something about that name? ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2016, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-debate-2-6-16/745376/66 "2016-02-07T17:55:05Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > Wait a minute. Mary Katherine…Ham? > > If you were planning on becoming a public figure, wouldn’t you first DO something about that name? [It’s good enough for Karl Rove.](http://wikiality.wikia.com/wiki/Ham_Rove) ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2016, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-debate-2-6-16/745376/67 "2016-02-07T18:14:39Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > Can anybody explain to me why we need “to rebuild the military”? This seems to be a constant meme with these guys, when there is zero indication that the military is suffering from under funding. Must be some sort of sop to the military worshipers. > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > It’s part & parcel of the GOP drumbeat for the last 36 years: [America was great, but somehow is not anymore](http://www.oldpoliticals.com/ItemImages/000014/18692_lg.jpeg). That, and it fits in with the whole “Obama & the Dems want to undermine/weaken/destroy America” narrative that the GOP appears to have settled on, to the point that dissent would disqualify a candidate. I don’t recall even Paul (who dissented on the warhawkery as such) dissenting on that point, though I don’t recall him mentioning it either. ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2016, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-debate-2-6-16/745376/68 "2016-02-07T18:26:57Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > She’s a bit of a rock star in the conservative blogosphere. I’m a big fan. Why is it controversial for Maddow to moderate a debate, when Fox hosts debates on two different networks, and Ham is a questioner in this one? Is this a one way street? How can this be consistent with a putative left wing bias in media? ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2016, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-debate-2-6-16/745376/69 "2016-02-07T18:30:54Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > She’s a bit of a rock star in the conservative blogosphere. I’m a big fan. She has an appropriate last name, anyway. Fits both her style and appearance. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2016, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-debate-2-6-16/745376/70 "2016-02-07T18:38:33Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > [It’s good enough for Karl Rove.](http://wikiality.wikia.com/wiki/Ham_Rove) Exactly; my first thought, too. How can you be a public Republican figure and use that name? Her co-workers probably put “Ham Rove” pics up on the bulletin board and giggle wildly. ---
**Author:** ![MacCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maccat/32/216_2.png) [@MacCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacCat)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2016, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-debate-2-6-16/745376/71 "2016-02-07T18:40:18Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > [It’s good enough for Karl Rove.](http://wikiality.wikia.com/wiki/Ham_Rove) And Jon Hamm Mia Hamm Ura Hamm Ima Hamm [Hamm](http://toystory.disney.com/hamm) Hamm ---
**Author:** ![SmartAlecCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/67e7ee/32.png) [@SmartAlecCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAlecCat)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2016, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-debate-2-6-16/745376/72 "2016-02-08T01:56:05Z")
> [@Tangent](#): > > I’m not sure what all Kasich has to offer, but if nothing else at least he comes across as being reasonable and thoughtful. Might be helpful in the general, but is that really an advantage in the Republican primary? ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2016, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-debate-2-6-16/745376/73 "2016-02-08T02:51:01Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally Posted by **Tangent** > I’m not sure what all Kasich has to offer, but if nothing else at least he comes across as being reasonable and thoughtful. 1-Advocates defunding Planned Parenthood. 2-Supported and signed a law making it illegal for rape crisis centers to point out to rape victims that if they become pregnant, abortion is an option. 3-Advocates removing carbon emissions and coal-fired plants from the EPA and giving pollution control to the states. 4-Signed a bill to do eliminate the state’s renewable energy program. 5-Supports fracking in Ohio state parks and forests. 6-Signed legislation allowing the Governor to sell state mineral rights to the highest bidder (though the program was never implemented). 7-Supports the Keystone pipeline. 8-Advocates selling all of the state’s prisons to private contractors. 9-Opposes medical marijuana and the legalization of marijuana. Thinks the President should somehow “stomp out” (his words) marijuana. 10-Opposes public employee collective bargaining. Opposes collective bargaining for in-home medical carers and repealed by executive order his predecessor’s order which implemented it. 11-Supports a federal Balanced Budget Amendment. 12-Supports a school voucher program and state funding of private schools. 13-Supports the teaching of intelligent design. 14-Supports sending US ground troops to fight ISIS. 15-Opposes the Iran treaty. 16-Supports more military spending. 17-Opposes same sex marriage. 18-Wants to remove the 14th Amendment’s birthright citizenship provision. 19-Supports a border wall. 20-His initial cabinet of 22 members was all-white until criticisms led him to begin appointing minorities. 21-Has supported and signed laws limiting voting rights. On another note, why do the Republicans call ISIS/ISIL “The Caliphate”? Weren’t they the ones complaining because Obama says ISIL claiming it was to confuse people about his talking about ISIS? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2016, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-debate-2-6-16/745376/74 "2016-02-08T03:03:51Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > 1-Advocates defunding Planned Parenthood. > 2-Supported and signed a law making it illegal for rape crisis centers to point out to rape victims that if they become pregnant, abortion is an option. > 3-Advocates removing carbon emissions and coal-fired plants from the EPA and giving pollution control to the states. > 4-Signed a bill to do eliminate the state’s renewable energy program. > 5-Supports fracking in Ohio state parks and forests. > 6-Signed legislation allowing the Governor to sell state mineral rights to the highest bidder (though the program was never implemented). > 7-Supports the Keystone pipeline. > 8-Advocates selling all of the state’s prisons to private contractors. > 9-Opposes medical marijuana and the legalization of marijuana. Thinks the President should somehow “stomp out” (his words) marijuana. > 10-Opposes public employee collective bargaining. Opposes collective bargaining for in-home medical carers and repealed by executive order his predecessor’s order which implemented it. > 11-Supports a federal Balanced Budget Amendment. > 12-Supports a school voucher program and state funding of private schools. > 13-Supports the teaching of intelligent design. > 14-Supports sending US ground troops to fight ISIS. > 15-Opposes the Iran treaty. > 16-Supports more military spending. > 17-Opposes same sex marriage. > 18-Wants to remove the 14th Amendment’s birthright citizenship provision. > 19-Supports a border wall. > 20-His initial cabinet of 22 members was all-white until criticisms led him to begin appointing minorities. > 21-Has supported and signed laws limiting voting rights. > > On another note, why do the Republicans call ISIS/ISIL “The Caliphate”? Weren’t they the ones complaining because Obama says ISIL claiming it was to confuse people about his talking about ISIS? That _is_ reasonable and thoughtful. Compared to the rest of the asylum. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2016, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-debate-2-6-16/745376/75 "2016-02-08T03:07:54Z")
Okay, other than those few things… ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2016, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-debate-2-6-16/745376/76 "2016-02-08T04:13:36Z")
> [@MacCat](#): > > Because Obama. > [@Chefguy](#): > > Ah, of course. Goes along with the meme that he has no idea what he’s doing. Wait, wait, wait, if there’s anything we’ve learned from Marco Rubio, it’s that Obama DOES know what he’s doing. He DOES know what he’s doing. He DOES know what he’s doing. He DOES know what he’s doing. He DOES know what he’s doing. He DOES know what he’s doing. He DOES know what he’s doing. He DOES know what he’s doing. He DOES know what he’s doing. He DOES know what he’s doing. He DOES know what he’s doing…He \*\*\\*\* ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2016, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-debate-2-6-16/745376/77 "2016-02-08T04:22:37Z")
What’s interesting about Rubio’s contention is that he HAS to insist that Obama is a great, evil mastermind, becuase if Obama is incompetent(and I believe he is) then that means Rubio, with a similar background, is similarly unready(which he is). ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2016, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-debate-2-6-16/745376/78 "2016-02-08T05:36:42Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > becuase if Obama is incompetent(and I believe he is) And, as we all know, your track record is stellar when it comes to politics. ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2016, 7:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-debate-2-6-16/745376/79 "2016-02-08T07:06:50Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > 1-Advocates defunding Planned Parenthood. > 2-Supported and signed a law making it illegal for rape crisis centers to point out to rape victims that if they become pregnant, abortion is an option. > 3-Advocates removing carbon emissions and coal-fired plants from the EPA and giving pollution control to the states. > 4-Signed a bill to do eliminate the state’s renewable energy program. > 5-Supports fracking in Ohio state parks and forests. > 6-Signed legislation allowing the Governor to sell state mineral rights to the highest bidder (though the program was never implemented). > 7-Supports the Keystone pipeline. > 8-Advocates selling all of the state’s prisons to private contractors. > 9-Opposes medical marijuana and the legalization of marijuana. Thinks the President should somehow “stomp out” (his words) marijuana. > 10-Opposes public employee collective bargaining. Opposes collective bargaining for in-home medical carers and repealed by executive order his predecessor’s order which implemented it. > 11-Supports a federal Balanced Budget Amendment. > 12-Supports a school voucher program and state funding of private schools. > 13-Supports the teaching of intelligent design. > 14-Supports sending US ground troops to fight ISIS. > 15-Opposes the Iran treaty. > 16-Supports more military spending. > 17-Opposes same sex marriage. > 18-Wants to remove the 14th Amendment’s birthright citizenship provision. > 19-Supports a border wall. > 20-His initial cabinet of 22 members was all-white until criticisms led him to begin appointing minorities. > 21-Has supported and signed laws limiting voting rights. So, pretty much the standard right-wing wrongheadedness. He was never in danger of getting my vote, but thanks for the info. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2016, 8:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-debate-2-6-16/745376/80 "2016-02-08T08:15:27Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > What’s interesting about Rubio’s contention is that he HAS to insist that Obama is a great, evil mastermind, becuase if Obama is incompetent(and I believe he is) then that means Rubio, with a similar background, is similarly unready(which he is). Good point (except your parenthetical assertion about Obama’s competence). I hadn’t thought of it that way. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-debate-2-6-16/745376.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-debate-2-6-16/745376.md?page=5)