# Republican debate and Trump

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-debate-and-trump/988979>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [August 23, 2023, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-debate-and-trump/988979 "2023-08-23T15:20:47Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2023, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-debate-and-trump/988979/21 "2023-08-23T20:21:14Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> “woke” You’ll hear a lot of “woke.”

If you get a combo like “woke - witch hunt” that counts as a triple score.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2023, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-debate-and-trump/988979/22 "2023-08-23T20:21:15Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> Heh. We have a tv and a dish, but our remote control was destroyed months ago and neither of us can figure out how to operate the tv/dish without the remote.

Try Ebay, I’ve found some there.

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2023, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-debate-and-trump/988979/23 "2023-08-23T20:25:03Z")

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Also “agenda”. Whether its the “Woke agenda”, the “LGBTQ agenda”, the “Socialist agenda” its clearly nefarious and shouldn’t be allowed.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2023, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-debate-and-trump/988979/24 "2023-08-23T20:26:45Z")

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As opposed to the People’s Glorious Right Wing Agenda that is perfect in every way!

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2023, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-debate-and-trump/988979/25 "2023-08-23T22:32:40Z")

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It’s all agenda and a gender with those guys.

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**Author:** ![psychobunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/54ee81/32.png) [@psychobunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychobunny)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2023, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-debate-and-trump/988979/26 "2023-08-23T23:27:56Z")

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I’ve got my bingo card ready.

> **[Republican Debate Bingo](https://action.lincolnproject.us/republicandebatebingo)**
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> Help Defeat Trump

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**Author:** ![Dandan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a87d85/32.png) [@Dandan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dandan)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2023, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-debate-and-trump/988979/27 "2023-08-24T00:41:08Z")

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Will this be the night that the other yahoos on the stage make it clear to Tim Scott that he isn’t white?

Or, Scott gets the presidency, and at swearing-in reveals that he is a Democrat?

Dan

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**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2023, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-debate-and-trump/988979/28 "2023-08-24T02:22:04Z")

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Santos is providing running commentary.

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**Author:** ![Hampshire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hampshire/32/4887_2.png) [@Hampshire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hampshire)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2023, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-debate-and-trump/988979/29 "2023-08-24T02:26:15Z")

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Ramaswamy going down in flames hard.

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**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2023, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-debate-and-trump/988979/30 "2023-08-24T02:29:16Z")

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Elaborate!

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**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2023, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-debate-and-trump/988979/31 "2023-08-24T02:46:49Z")

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Twitterers say hes doing great?

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2023, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-debate-and-trump/988979/32 "2023-08-24T03:11:46Z")

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Is this really the debate thread? I assumed there’d be an ongoing watch party thread but I haven’t seen anything yet.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2023, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-debate-and-trump/988979/33 "2023-08-24T03:16:09Z")

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> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> Is this really the debate thread?

I was wondering that, too. Someone on CNN just called it a “shitshow” (the debate, not this thread).

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2023, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-debate-and-trump/988979/34 "2023-08-24T03:16:45Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> (the debate, not this thread).

You just had to ruin that fantasy for me.

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2023, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-debate-and-trump/988979/35 "2023-08-24T03:30:16Z")

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I didn’t watch it, I can’t take that much stupid all at once. But I’m watching the MSNBC autopsy. They’re airing the “best” bits in tolerable segments.

I haven’t see much of him so far, but Ramaswamy looks like he should be sitting on someone’s lap with a hand stuck up his back. A Trump mini-me.

Pence and Haley come off as the most prepared.

Christie seems pretty lackluster.

Surprisingly (/s), DeSantis is unlikable.

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2023, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-debate-and-trump/988979/36 "2023-08-24T03:31:20Z")

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I watched a few minutes of it. A debate, it was not.  
The mods asked them, by a show of hands, who believes in man-made climate change. No one raised their hands, they _immediately_ began talking over each other and by the end of it not only did no one give a yes or no answer, most of them didn’t even address the actual question. They were _clearly_ just rattling off a memorized talking point.

Someone (Christie?) compared Vivek Ramaswamy to [paraphrasing] “another skinny guy with a funny sounding last name, Obama”. Assuming I interpreted that correctly as thinly veiled racisim, he quickly doubled down on it.

I honestly don’t understand why they even bother with these, Right and Left alike. No one’s debating anything.

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**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2023, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-debate-and-trump/988979/37 "2023-08-24T03:31:38Z")

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I don’t think anyone had the stomach (or the desire to support fox) by actually watching along. So we’ll probably have a lot more feedback tomorrow when everyone can/will see the “greatest hits” version.

My takeaway from the clips and soundbites is that, as expected, all of those… individuals… are evil to a greater or lesser extent. That the support of Trump was much more muted than I expected. That DeSantis was dull, Christie was _comparatively_ charming (not saying much that), and Pence more active than expected.

And while I still would pick Christie if my wife was held hostage and I was forced to vote for one of these folks, that none of them are safe for the future of this country.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2023, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-debate-and-trump/988979/38 "2023-08-24T03:31:45Z")

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> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> You just had to ruin that fantasy for me.

I may have misheard the guy on CNN. For all I know, he could be one of the mods.

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2023, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-debate-and-trump/988979/39 "2023-08-24T03:32:18Z")

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Oh thank god.

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**Post date:** [August 24, 2023, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-debate-and-trump/988979/40 "2023-08-24T03:34:31Z")

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> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> I honestly don’t understand why they even bother with these, Right and Left alike. No one’s debating anything.

I won’t speak to the Democratic debates, but will say for the Republicans, it’s not, and cannot be a debate because most of them won’t abide by any rules that restrict them. So, yeah, there isn’t much point. Facts, verification, responsibility to the moderator, those are all likely gone for good. Especially when your host network is freakin’ Fox.

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