# Republican Debate in NH-1/7

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-debate-in-nh-1-7/608788>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [January 8, 2012, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-debate-in-nh-1-7/608788 "2012-01-08T02:33:26Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2012, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-debate-in-nh-1-7/608788/1 "2012-01-08T02:33:26Z")

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[http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/](http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/)

Watch here.

Already had a few notable movements. Ron Paul is having a great day right now. He had a smackdown on Gingrich on avoiding military service (I was married with two kids and I went) while Gingrich sounded absolutely pathetic in resonse to him. He also noted the disproportionate punishment of minorities in our justice system and reform of drug laws. 🆒

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2012, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-debate-in-nh-1-7/608788/2 "2012-01-08T02:34:57Z")

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There’s football on! Why do you hate America?  
😉

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2012, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-debate-in-nh-1-7/608788/3 "2012-01-08T02:38:52Z")

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> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#):
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> [URL=“[http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/](http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/)”][http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/](http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/)[/URL}  
> He also noted the disproportionate punishment of minorities in our justice system and reform of drug laws. 🆒

That’s funny, his newsletters used to focus on the disproportionate number of crimes committed by minorities.

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**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2012, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-debate-in-nh-1-7/608788/4 "2012-01-08T02:41:42Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> That’s funny, his newsletters used to focus on the disproportionate number of crimes committed by minorities.

Its not like this rhetoric is going to win GOP votes and certainly not in your mind.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2012, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-debate-in-nh-1-7/608788/5 "2012-01-08T02:46:48Z")

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> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#):
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> Already had a few notable movements.

Damn! Sorry I missed **that!**

> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#):
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> Ron Paul . . . also noted the disproportionate punishment of minorities in our justice system and reform of drug laws. 🆒

Which party’s nom does he think he’s running for?!

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**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2012, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-debate-in-nh-1-7/608788/6 "2012-01-08T03:01:41Z")

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Santorum was beginning to make a good point on the necessity of staying in Afghanistan but than it immediatly degenerated into “Obama doesn’t recognize the Islamist threat” crap. :rolleyes:

Rick Perry wants to send back troops to Iraq. Try getting Iraq to do that…

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2012, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-debate-in-nh-1-7/608788/7 "2012-01-08T03:02:44Z")

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Rick Perry thinks Iran has warp drives:

“We are going to see Iran move back [into Iraq] literally at the speed of light.”

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2012, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-debate-in-nh-1-7/608788/8 "2012-01-08T03:08:38Z")

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> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#):
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> Rick Perry wants to send back troops to Iraq. Try getting Iraq to do that…

Well, we did send them in the first time without asking…

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**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2012, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-debate-in-nh-1-7/608788/9 "2012-01-08T03:09:19Z")

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Did anyone catch the slip of Ron Paul’s tongue, when he said he was the only Democrat to talk about racial injustice?

He sounded kind of desperate and weak. I kept wincing whenever he said “the blacks.”

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**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2012, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-debate-in-nh-1-7/608788/10 "2012-01-08T03:13:37Z")

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Finally the ABC people are getting to the economy rather than divisive social issues (at least they could have done abortion)…

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2012, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-debate-in-nh-1-7/608788/11 "2012-01-08T03:29:30Z")

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Rick Santorum says there is no middle class in America.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2012, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-debate-in-nh-1-7/608788/12 "2012-01-08T03:34:45Z")

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They’re sure showing their true colors of bigotry, fear and hate. Keep them wimminfolk and homoseckshuls in their place, dadgummit. The states should decide on gay benefits, but the fed should pass laws that make it nearly impossible for those rights to be acted upon. One man and one woman has been the way it’s done for 3,000 years; just because we as humans have been fucking things up for that long doesn’t mean we should continue to do so. A constitutional amendment to take away rights rather than grant them: nice. The face of the Republican Party has never been as ugly as it is now.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2012, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-debate-in-nh-1-7/608788/13 "2012-01-08T03:37:02Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> Rick Santorum says there is no middle class in America.

No, he didn’t.

I assume it’s not an accident that Romney and Santorum have the middle podium positions, that Gingrich and Paul flank them, and that Perry and Huntsman are banished to the netherworld of the end positions. I really don’t like the idea of giving the front runners a 1-up on the others.

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**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2012, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-debate-in-nh-1-7/608788/14 "2012-01-08T03:39:06Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> They’re sure showing their true colors of bigotry, fear and hate. Keep them wimminfolk

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> and homoseckshuls in their place, dadgummit. The states should decide on gay benefits, but the fed should pass laws that make it nearly impossible for those rights to be acted upon. One man and one woman has been the way it’s done for 3,000 years; just because we as humans have been fucking things up for that long doesn’t mean we should continue to do so. A constitutional amendment to take away rights rather than grant them: nice. The face of the Republican Party has never been as ugly as it is now.

Gay rights wouldn’t have been even an issue twenty years ago.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2012, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-debate-in-nh-1-7/608788/15 "2012-01-08T03:40:53Z")

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> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#):
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> ?
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> Gay rights wouldn’t have been even an issue twenty years ago.

We don’t live in the world of 20 years ago, but I think you should have said 30, not 20.

Hmm. The debate is over 20 minutes early. Why did my DVR ask if I wanted to extend the recording 30 minutes?

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**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2012, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-debate-in-nh-1-7/608788/16 "2012-01-08T03:48:56Z")

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Never mind

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2012, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-debate-in-nh-1-7/608788/17 "2012-01-08T03:50:28Z")

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When was the last time either major party had a real convention floor-fight? 1968?

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**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2012, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-debate-in-nh-1-7/608788/18 "2012-01-08T04:19:43Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> No, he didn’t.
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> I assume it’s not an accident that Romney and Santorum have the middle podium positions, that Gingrich and Paul flank them, and that Perry and Huntsman are banished to the netherworld of the end positions. I really don’t like the idea of giving the front runners a 1-up on the others.

Debate rules place the speakers by position in the latest polls. This has been true for all 1,672 debates this year.

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2012, 7:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-debate-in-nh-1-7/608788/19 "2012-01-08T07:10:09Z")

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When are we allowed to send questions via online/email to GOP debates??

I suppose for Santorum questions, we send them to [answersingenesis.com](http://answersingenesis.com) and they edit them. 😃

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2012, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-debate-in-nh-1-7/608788/20 "2012-01-08T16:07:12Z")

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> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#):
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> Gay rights wouldn’t have been even an issue twenty years ago.

Wrong. It was an issue 20 years ago. Fifty years ago, it would not have been an issue. That’s because they would have been beaten or outright murdered for raising the issue, just as blacks were beaten and murdered for raising civil rights issues.

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