# Republican Expresses Concerns Over Dems & Obama

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-expresses-concerns-over-dems-obama/495524>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [May 6, 2009, 7:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-expresses-concerns-over-dems-obama/495524 "2009-05-06T07:14:43Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 17\
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**Author:** ![Bearflag70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Bearflag70](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bearflag70)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-expresses-concerns-over-dems-obama/495524/21 "2009-05-06T17:39:15Z")

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> [@Wheelz](#):
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> Ehhh… why bother?
> 
> If you ask the sender for cites, you’re unlikely to get any.  
> If you respond with a well-thought and researched reply, you’ve done more work than the sender has (and more than the original e-mail deserves, IMO).  
> If you respond in kind, say with a left-wing rant about how awful George W. Bush was, nothing really gets accomplished except more people getting upset.
> 
> The sender likely knows you wouldn’t agree with this message and is trying to get a rise out of you. Why take the bait? It may be wishful thinking, but if we all just ignore e-mails like this one there may be fewer of them in the future…
> 
> (Who am I kidding? That ain’t gonna happen.)

…because I think he should think about not just swallowing wholesale whatever he reads in the Orange County Register. I think the quick & dirty response above is an appropriate response to his quick and dirty email.

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**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-expresses-concerns-over-dems-obama/495524/22 "2009-05-06T17:39:19Z")

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I sent back the Snopes link to the guy who sent me the supposed Bill Cosby quote and the silence is pretty deafening…

😛

-XT

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-expresses-concerns-over-dems-obama/495524/23 "2009-05-06T17:47:30Z")

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> [@Piker](#):
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> (And don’t get me started on the national anthem. I know this will never be a popular position, but why us Americans demand a demonstration of national fealty before sporting events is beyond me. Gives me extra time to grab a beer before D.C. United kicks off, though, so it’s not all bad)

Besides, “The Star Spangled Banner” is a crappy anthem. Musically, I mean, never mind pacifists’ objections to the war-glory lyrics. A better choice would be “America the Beautiful” or “This Is My Country.”

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**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-expresses-concerns-over-dems-obama/495524/24 "2009-05-06T17:55:44Z")

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[QUOTE=BrainGlutton]  
Besides, “The Star Spangled Banner” is a crappy anthem.  
[/QUOTE]

It always reminds me of a drinking song for some reason…

-XT

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**Author:** ![Bearflag70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Bearflag70](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bearflag70)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-expresses-concerns-over-dems-obama/495524/25 "2009-05-06T17:59:37Z")

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> [@xtisme](#):
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> It always reminds me of a drinking song for some reason…
> 
> -XT

😛

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-expresses-concerns-over-dems-obama/495524/26 "2009-05-06T18:01:45Z")

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> [@xtisme](#):
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> I sent back the Snopes link to the guy who sent me the supposed Bill Cosby quote and the silence is pretty deafening…
> 
> 😛
> 
> -XT

Oddly enough, a healthy dose of reply-alled Snopes stopped all the glurge forwards people used to send me.

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**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-expresses-concerns-over-dems-obama/495524/27 "2009-05-06T18:02:48Z")

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> [@xtisme](#):
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> I sent back the Snopes link to the guy who sent me the supposed Bill Cosby quote and the silence is pretty deafening…
> 
> 😛
> 
> -XT

I have found that sending a link from Snopes or something similar will usually stop glurgers from sending me any more glurge. Sometimes they stop writing me altogether. Usually this is a good thing.

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**Author:** ![MichaelQReilly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@MichaelQReilly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MichaelQReilly)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-expresses-concerns-over-dems-obama/495524/28 "2009-05-06T18:06:24Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> Besides, “The Star Spangled Banner” is a crappy anthem. Musically, I mean, never mind pacifists’ objections to the war-glory lyrics. A better choice would be “America the Beautiful” or “This Is My Country.”

Yeah, but it has provenance that those other songs can’t dream of. It’s about a pretty big turning point in U.S. history by guy who was actually there. Way better than some stupid platitudes about fields of grain and what not.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-expresses-concerns-over-dems-obama/495524/29 "2009-05-06T18:10:16Z")

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> [@Lynn\_Bodoni](#):
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> I have found that sending a link from Snopes or something similar will usually stop glurgers from sending me any more glurge. Sometimes they stop writing me altogether. Usually this is a good thing.

And then, some will respond by calling Snopes a tool of liberal media bias. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-expresses-concerns-over-dems-obama/495524/30 "2009-05-06T18:23:42Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> Tell your friend to get a life.

Actually, get a brain.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-expresses-concerns-over-dems-obama/495524/31 "2009-05-06T18:26:53Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> And then, some will respond by calling Snopes a tool of liberal media bias. :rolleyes:

Despite the fact that David Mikkelson is a registered Republican…

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-expresses-concerns-over-dems-obama/495524/32 "2009-05-06T18:32:45Z")

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> [@MichaelQReilly](#):
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> It’s a pretty sad indictment of these people when they cite Massachusetts and New Jersey as terrible places and Mississippi as a great place. A brief look at any demographic data would reveal that Mass. and NJ are amongst the leaders in quality of life while is Mississippi comparable to some former Eastern Bloc nations.

As someone who has been in Mississippi for nearly nine years now, I have to say that I think you’re being unfair to Bulgaria.

-Joe

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-expresses-concerns-over-dems-obama/495524/33 "2009-05-06T18:38:09Z")

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> [@Voyager](#):
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> Actually, get a brain.

Well, that depends how old he is, apparently.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-expresses-concerns-over-dems-obama/495524/34 "2009-05-06T18:39:45Z")

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With the thoughts he’d be thinkin’, he could be another Lincoln…

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2009, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-expresses-concerns-over-dems-obama/495524/35 "2009-05-06T20:08:39Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> With the thoughts he’d be thinkin’, he could be another Lincoln…

Now there’s a real strawman argument.

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**Author:** ![YamatoTwinkie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/cc9497/32.png) [@YamatoTwinkie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YamatoTwinkie)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2009, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-expresses-concerns-over-dems-obama/495524/36 "2009-05-07T17:18:27Z")

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> [@](#):
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> (2) We will immediately go into a two year isolationist posture to straighten out the country’s attitude. NO imports, no exports.

Yes, because economic [Juche](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juche)worked so well for North Korea…

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**Author:** ![mack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b19c9b/32.png) [@mack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mack)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2009, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-expresses-concerns-over-dems-obama/495524/37 "2009-05-07T17:22:35Z")

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> [@Bearflag70](#):
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> Perhaps so. I at least want to send one response.
> 
> What’s the deal on withdrawing charges on USS Cole masterminds?

From what I could gather the military judge handling the case against the alleged mastermind denied the Pentagon’s request for a 120 day delay (part of Obama’s Gitmo closing/review of the cases thing), which forced the Pentagon to either drop the charges or allow the arraignment to proceed, which would create even more problems. So the Pentagon dropped the charges.

However:

> [@](#):
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> Withdrawing charges “without prejudice” would let the government reinstate them later in a military commission. Or it could allow the cases to be moved to federal court or military courts-martial if Obama abolishes the existing system for prosecuting detainees.

[http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/01/29/AR2009012902021.html?wprss=rss\_nation](http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/01/29/AR2009012902021.html?wprss=rss_nation)

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