# Republican local NC office firebombed **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 17, 2016, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-local-nc-office-firebombed/768808 "2016-10-17T05:49:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-local-nc-office-firebombed/768808/1 "2016-10-17T05:49:06Z")
(Orange County, North Carolina, ftr. We have too many Orange Counties in this country.) I am so god damn angry about this. The American experiment will not survive once violence becomes the norm. There is no place for this sort of shit in our country. No one was hurt, thankfully. [http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/politics-government/article108627627.html](http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/politics-government/article108627627.html) > [@Charlotte Observer](#): > > Hillsborough police said somebody threw a bottle of flammable liquid through the window of Orange County’s GOP headquarters, setting campaign signs, supplies and furniture ablaze before burning itself out. > > A swastika and “Nazi Republicans get out of town or else” were spray painted on the side of an adjacent building. No damage estimates were available. > > “The firebombing of a local political headquarters in Orange County is clearly an attack on our democracy,” McCrory said in a statement. “Violence has no place in our society – but especially in our elections. … I will use every resource as governor to assist local authorities in this investigation.” This is unacceptable. The BATF is working with local authorities to investigate. I assume the FBI will want in on it too. Godspeed their efforts. A Gofundme page has been set up for donations to help the Republican office re-open. I won’t link it but a simple google search for “gofundme firebomb” will find it for you. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-local-nc-office-firebombed/768808/2 "2016-10-17T05:52:27Z")
Yeah, it’s all they’re talking about over in Elections. [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=807586](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=807586) ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 8:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-local-nc-office-firebombed/768808/3 "2016-10-17T08:30:39Z")
Donald J. Trump, Junior Detective, seems to believe he’s cracked the case: > [@](#): > > Animals representing Hillary Clinton and Dems in North Carolina just firebombed our office in Orange County because we are winning @NCGOP. > **[Donald Trump's 'animals' tweet stuns many](https://www.cnet.com/culture/donald-trumps-animals-tweet-numbs-many/)** > > Technically Incorrect: In the wake of arsonists attacking a GOP office in North Carolina, the Republican nominee immediately claims that it's the work of beasts supporting Hillary Clinton. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 9:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-local-nc-office-firebombed/768808/4 "2016-10-17T09:43:03Z")
I’m waffling between “crazed left-wing loon” and “O’Keefian false flag action” on this one. I’m not remotely discounting the possibility that the attack was genuinely done by someone who opposed Trump because, well, crazy angry people be crazy and angry, and there’s plenty of those in any demographic. But similarly, it wouldn’t be the first time that a Republican faked an attack on themselves to try to tarnish the reputation of supporters of the Democratic candidate. Remember [that woman in 2008](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashley_Todd_mugging_hoax)who claimed she’d been assaulted by an Obama supporter and had “B O” scratched into her cheeks? That was in October as well, at a point when Obama was comfortably ahead. The other thing that bothers me is the message. “Nazi Republicans get out of town or else”. If you’re pissed off enough to firebomb an office you don’t write a polite note about it; you write “NAZI SCUM FUCK OFF”. And you certainly don’t carefully write out “Republicans” when it’s already pretty clear who you’re talking about. You know who writes things like “Nazi Republicans get out of town or else”? Strawman Liberal. Really the police ought to be looking for him. Man, I hate that guy. On the other hand, everything was spelled correctly, so that rules out Trump supporters… 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Grumman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/43a26b/32.png) [@Grumman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grumman)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 10:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-local-nc-office-firebombed/768808/5 "2016-10-17T10:36:53Z")
I don’t think you should get to call yourself a Democrat if you support firebombing your political opponents. Democracy means letting dissenting views make it to the polling booth, not suppressing other political parties with acts of terrorism so that you can win by default. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 10:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-local-nc-office-firebombed/768808/6 "2016-10-17T10:48:00Z")
> [@Merneith](#): > > The American experiment will not survive once violence becomes the norm. :dubious: The American Experiment was founded on and sustained by violence. The only difference is that it’s a Republican office in NC being firebombed rather than, say, an NAACP office in Colorado. ---
**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-local-nc-office-firebombed/768808/7 "2016-10-17T12:56:54Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > :dubious: The American Experiment was founded on and sustained by violence. The only difference is that it’s a Republican office in NC being firebombed rather than, say, an NAACP office in Colorado. “The American Experiment” is a phrase that refers to the regular democratic elections by which we choose our government. It proceeds in an orderly manner on the idea that power will be passed in a peaceful way based on the results of regular elections. You’re correct that violence is a recurring part of American life but firebombing a political office is specifically an attack on the system of government that is central to America’s existence. Bombing a non-political office, even if for political motives, is not as direct a threat to our government, hence the phrase “American Experiment” doesn’t quite apply. Just as a side note - [the guy who firebombed the NAACP office in Colorado Springs was dumbass](http://aattp.org/right-wing-idiot-who-bombed-naacp-in-colorado-says-he-was-targeting-accountant-next-door/) who was actually trying to bomb the H&R Block tax preparing office next door. A danger to himself and others, to be sure, but not so much the US government. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-local-nc-office-firebombed/768808/8 "2016-10-17T13:23:01Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > I’m waffling between “crazed left-wing loon” and “O’Keefian false flag action” on this one. “Acting on an anonymous tip that the firebombing was carried out by someone with a strong dislike for Trump, police have taken approx. 231 million people into custody for questioning.” ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-local-nc-office-firebombed/768808/9 "2016-10-17T13:27:13Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > “Acting on an anonymous tip that the firebombing was carried out by someone with a strong dislike for Trump, police have taken approx. 231 million people into custody for questioning.” Heh. And Interpole is rounding up the other 7 billion outside of the US. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-local-nc-office-firebombed/768808/10 "2016-10-17T13:51:24Z")
> [@Merneith](#): > > “The American Experiment” is a phrase that refers to the regular democratic elections by which we choose our government. Sorry, I was unaware this was a term of Art. Got any cites where I can read up a bit more about this specific usage, as opposed to the general usage?ETA: I’m familiar with de Tocqueville, but he doesn’t just focus on elections. ---
**Author:** ![Pantastic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3bc359/32.png) [@Pantastic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pantastic)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-local-nc-office-firebombed/768808/11 "2016-10-17T13:54:05Z")
> [@Merneith](#): > > I am so god damn angry about this. The American experiment will not survive once violence becomes the norm. There is no place for this sort of shit in our country. Yeah, because all of that shooting at Redcoats and lynching Tories was completely peaceful and quiet. Same with that whole Civil War thing, clearly it was called ‘civil’ because Grant and Lee traded sharply worded letters back and forth without raising their voices. And it certainly would have ended outright if any elections were violently suppressed during Reconstruction! And just imagine if a group like Weather Underground were to start bombing government offices, we’d just fall apart! The attack is a bad thing, but the idea that it means the end of America or that it’s a change from the past is absurd. The American Experiment started with violence, has endured plenty of violence, and has worked for longer than The French Experiment, the German Experiment, or the Russian Experiment. ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-local-nc-office-firebombed/768808/12 "2016-10-17T13:59:15Z")
Recent Unpleasantness if you please. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-local-nc-office-firebombed/768808/13 "2016-10-17T14:32:15Z")
We don’t know anything yet, nothing, _nada_ damn thing. But one of these dumb-ass Bozos will shoot his mouth off and be arrested by close of business tomorrow. Bet me. ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-local-nc-office-firebombed/768808/14 "2016-10-17T14:40:53Z")
Who would have thought that calling for violence would lead to violence? ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-local-nc-office-firebombed/768808/15 "2016-10-17T15:10:21Z")
Lets wait until they figure out who did this. ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-local-nc-office-firebombed/768808/16 "2016-10-17T15:51:38Z")
Why are Hillary supporters so full of hatred and violence? ---
**Author:** ![Filbert](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/filbert/32/3433_2.png) [@Filbert](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Filbert)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-local-nc-office-firebombed/768808/17 "2016-10-17T16:19:24Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > The other thing that bothers me is the message. “Nazi Republicans get out of town or else”. If you’re pissed off enough to firebomb an office you don’t write a polite note about it; you write “NAZI SCUM FUCK OFF”. And you certainly don’t carefully write out “Republicans” when it’s already pretty clear who you’re talking about. You know who writes things like “Nazi Republicans get out of town or else”? Strawman Liberal. Really the police ought to be looking for him. Man, I hate that guy. Nazis eunt domus! ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-local-nc-office-firebombed/768808/18 "2016-10-17T16:48:19Z")
> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#): > > Why are Hillary supporters so full of hatred and violence? Pledge Week. Totally enrages us. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-local-nc-office-firebombed/768808/19 "2016-10-17T16:52:46Z")
Pathetically executed false flag operation. Zero doubt. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-local-nc-office-firebombed/768808/20 "2016-10-17T16:54:50Z")
> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#): > > Why are Hillary supporters so full of hatred and violence? Why are you so desperate for a response that you’ll post the most obvious trolling crap? [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-local-nc-office-firebombed/768808.md?page=2)