# Republican local NC office firebombed

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-local-nc-office-firebombed/768808>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 17, 2016, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-local-nc-office-firebombed/768808 "2016-10-17T05:49:06Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-local-nc-office-firebombed/768808/41 "2016-10-17T23:05:03Z")

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> [@Ike\_Witt](#):
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> I was thinking moose and squirrel.

They _do_ have a history of being on opposite sides with the [Russians!](https://www.google.com/search?q=boris+and+natasha&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiAzfq9-eLPAhXGVT4KHRAuCjoQ_AUICCgB&biw=1600&bih=794#imgrc=_)

:eek:😃

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2016, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-local-nc-office-firebombed/768808/42 "2016-10-17T23:25:22Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> Did Hillary threaten to firebomb GOP offices in the last debate or something?

Awkward phrasing on my part. I meant “final debate”. Trump can now storm in there accusing Clinton, the Democrats, cat lovers, the media, and little girls for trying to sabotage his election chances by throwing bombs and inciting violence.

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**Author:** ![RadicalPi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/radicalpi/32/9806_2.png) [@RadicalPi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RadicalPi)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-local-nc-office-firebombed/768808/43 "2016-10-18T00:45:41Z")

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> [@Kobal2](#):
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> Your country was **founded upon** politically driven violence ;). Well, that and slavery.

This? From a citizen of the country that brought us a historical period known as the _Reign of Terror_? 😉

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**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-local-nc-office-firebombed/768808/44 "2016-10-18T01:12:09Z")

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> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#):
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> Why are Hillary supporters so full of hatred and violence?

I find it disappointingly predictable that Hillary’s supporters are being judged by the actions of \*one \*supposed Hillary supporter (the firebombing), but not by the concrete action of a \*group \*of Hillary supporters (raising enough money to repair the building, which is more than even \*Trump \*could be bothered to do- and this despite the fact that nobody yet knows who did it or why).

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-local-nc-office-firebombed/768808/45 "2016-10-18T02:05:21Z")

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That graffiti was neatly painted and correctly spelled. Almost as if it had occurred in the [Brooks Brothers Riot.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brooks_Brothers_riot)

Yeah, I’ll go with false flag.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-local-nc-office-firebombed/768808/46 "2016-10-18T02:11:05Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> That graffiti was neatly painted and correctly spelled. Almost as if it had occurred in the [Brooks Brothers Riot.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brooks_Brothers_riot)

From the “Aptly Named Department:”

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> “We were trying to stop the recount; Bush had already won,” said **Evilio Cepero** …

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-local-nc-office-firebombed/768808/47 "2016-10-18T02:11:14Z")

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> [@Lightnin](#):
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> I find it disappointingly predictable that Hillary’s supporters are being judged by the actions of \*one \*supposed Hillary supporter (the firebombing), but not by the concrete action of a \*group \*of Hillary supporters (raising enough money to repair the building, which is more than even \*Trump \*could be bothered to do- and this despite the fact that nobody yet knows who did it or why).

Forget it, Jake, it’s **Drunky Smurf**. For reasons known only to himself, he really enjoys playing the SDMB’s version of Oscar the Grouch.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-local-nc-office-firebombed/768808/48 "2016-10-18T03:11:45Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> :dubious: The American Experiment was founded on and sustained by violence. The only difference is that it’s a Republican office in NC being firebombed rather than, say, an NAACP office in Colorado.

Are you claiming that’s [unique](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Necklacing) to America?

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**Author:** ![Lucky\_Mike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de053/32.png) [@Lucky\_Mike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucky_Mike)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-local-nc-office-firebombed/768808/49 "2016-10-18T03:14:40Z")

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> [@Grumman](#):
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> I don’t think you should get to call yourself a Democrat if you support firebombing your political opponents. Democracy means letting dissenting views make it to the polling booth, not suppressing other political parties with acts of terrorism so that you can win by default.

And every member of the democratic party agrees it is horrible…

Do you have a valid point?

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-local-nc-office-firebombed/768808/50 "2016-10-18T03:49:28Z")

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Reichstag.

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**Author:** ![Grumman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/43a26b/32.png) [@Grumman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grumman)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 8:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-local-nc-office-firebombed/768808/51 "2016-10-18T08:24:03Z")

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> [@cochrane](#):
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> It’s a good thing that no Democrats have come out in support of the firebombing, then, isn’t it?

Look at the very first reply to the Elections thread.

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**Author:** ![Sailboat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sailboat/32/461_2.png) [@Sailboat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sailboat)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 9:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-local-nc-office-firebombed/768808/52 "2016-10-18T09:14:52Z")

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> [@Pantastic](#):
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> Yeah, because all of that shooting at Redcoats and lynching Tories was completely peaceful and quiet. Same with that whole Civil War thing

To be fair, that “civil war thing” did indeed almost mean the end of the experiment. Certainly it was as close as we’ve come.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 9:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-local-nc-office-firebombed/768808/53 "2016-10-18T09:16:42Z")

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Well if one person of unknown affiliation on the internet said it, it must be true of all Democrats everywhere up to the highest level. Sure, they’re all saying the opposite _but then they would say that, wouldn’t they…_

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 10:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-local-nc-office-firebombed/768808/54 "2016-10-18T10:32:00Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> Are you claiming that’s [unique](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Necklacing) to America?

Are you under the deluded impression _tu quoque_ is any kind of adult response to anything, you ignorant cow?

Or that _I’d_ defend that kind of political violence out of some sort of misguided patriotism? What did you mistake me for, a Republican?

Go back to ganging up on whoever the nonnie victim of the day is, **Guinnie** - **poo** , it’s what you do “best”. Actual logical argument is…how do I put this kindly? Not your strong suite.

Or go fuck a cactus, whichever works.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 10:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-local-nc-office-firebombed/768808/55 "2016-10-18T10:58:52Z")

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> [@Grumman](#):
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> Look at the very first reply to the Elections thread.

Okay. Now you look at post 25 to the Elections thread.

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**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-local-nc-office-firebombed/768808/56 "2016-10-18T11:05:43Z")

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> [@Kobal2](#):
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> Your country was **founded upon** politically driven violence ;). Well, that and slavery.

Yes. But that’s not what the phrase the “American Experiment” refers to.

The phrase, “The American Experiment” is a colloquial American-English expression referring to the system of government in which power is shared and passed around peacefully among democratically elected officials on a regular, recurring, basis. It is not a synonym for “The United States of America”. It is not an oblique way of saying, “our country”.

Perhaps the non-Americans who are clearly unfamiliar with what is, in fact, a reasonably common bit of American-English, ought to take a seat for a bit.

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 11:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-local-nc-office-firebombed/768808/57 "2016-10-18T11:13:02Z")

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> [@Grumman](#):
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> Look at the very first reply to the Elections thread.

A reply by a troll. Big whoop.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 11:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-local-nc-office-firebombed/768808/58 "2016-10-18T11:15:36Z")

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[QUOTE=Merneith]  
Perhaps the non-Americans who are clearly unfamiliar with what is, in fact, a reasonably common bit of American-English, ought to take a seat for a bit.  
[/QUOTE]  
How about “bite us”, instead?

It’s one thing to correct people on a term of art, we all do it, it’s another thing to be a sanctimonious prick about it.

And “reasonably common”? Google results are all over the place on what it means, actually. For a lot of them, it seems it’s just “liberty” or similar. Previous request to you for citations having drawn crickets, it seems.

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**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 11:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-local-nc-office-firebombed/768808/59 "2016-10-18T11:36:33Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> How about “bite us”, instead?
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> It’s one thing to correct people on a term of art, we all do it, it’s another thing to be a sanctimonious prick about it.
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> And “reasonably common”? Google results are all over the place on what it means, actually. For a lot of them, it seems it’s just “liberty” or similar. Previous request to you for citations having drawn crickets, it seems.

No, I used up all my patience for explaining the phrase the first time I did it, when I explained it to you in [post #7.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19706917&postcount=7) Having to explain it again to the second non-American who thought it would be oh so clever to take the exact same lameass cheap shot in a thread about a sickening act of political terrorism means I don’t give a rat’s ass about your poor, sad, invective.

This is not a thread about non-American misconceptions about American English. You are, of course, free to keep shitting it up, but if we’re going to compare acts of sanctimony, you’re the one who dropped the ball in the first place.

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2016, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-local-nc-office-firebombed/768808/60 "2016-10-18T12:11:27Z")

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> [@Merneith](#):
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> Yes. But that’s not what the phrase the “American Experiment” refers to.
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> The phrase, “The American Experiment” is a colloquial American-English expression referring to the system of government in which power is shared and passed around peacefully among democratically elected officials on a regular, recurring, basis.

You do realize that this “American Experiment” is how it works in every Western country, and many beyond, then ? You miiiight just be taking this whole American exceptionalism thing a bit too far :dubious:.

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