# Republican “migrants stunt”

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-migrants-stunt/971656>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [September 16, 2022, 8:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-migrants-stunt/971656 "2022-09-16T08:04:18Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2022, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-migrants-stunt/971656/221 "2022-09-20T01:57:29Z")

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> [@PhillyGuy](#):
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> If the choice is open borders or DeSantis, DeSantis wins.

Good thing that’s not the choice.

So you want secure borders. Fine. Do you want secure borders managed by somebody competent? Or do you want borders managed by somebody who figures a border crisis will help him get elected?

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2022, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-migrants-stunt/971656/222 "2022-09-20T02:06:29Z")

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> [@PhillyGuy](#):
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> Do I post advocacy for turning away desperate economic migrants seeking a better life for their family? No, and I don’t have to, because there are American voters pushing the other way.

That is one confusing paragraph.

Do you support policies that turn away desperate economic migrants seeking a better life for their family? Or do you oppose policies that turn away desperate economic migrants seeking a better life for their family?

Whichever one is your position why do you feel the fact that people are pushing the opposite way means you don’t have to advocate for your position?

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**Author:** ![Eva\_Luna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e495f1/32.png) [@Eva\_Luna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eva_Luna)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2022, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-migrants-stunt/971656/223 "2022-09-20T02:07:40Z")

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Yep, Chicagoan here. My alderperson’s office literally had to cut off donations intended for the recent arrivals within days because they ran out of space to store them. As a rule, Chicago welcomes immigrants.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2022, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-migrants-stunt/971656/224 "2022-09-20T02:14:12Z")

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So, this just happened:

> <https://twitter.com/sheriffsalazar/status/1572014589117878275?t=gY3YLa6xSfXY8NOgMq_Rag&s=19>

The Bexar County Sheriff’s Department is opening up a criminal investigation into this.

DeSanta’s office has already responded:

> <https://twitter.com/BillFOXLA/status/1572007368673853441?t=G8TmJ8e75yEi3Qly8ZB8tQ&s=19>

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2022, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-migrants-stunt/971656/225 "2022-09-20T03:05:31Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> If immigrants are indeed beneficial, as most thoughtful people believe, then every one that we can import from the stupid parts of the country into the smarter parts is a win for our side. How nice to get TX, _et al_ to subsidize our gain and their loss.

These immigrants, who were healthy and determined enough to walk across the continent to get here, sure seem like they’d be beneficial. I’m hoping they settle here, and don’t go to Florida, where they have family.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2022, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-migrants-stunt/971656/226 "2022-09-20T03:09:18Z")

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I’m hoping the settle here. “Here” being Florida where I’ll benefit and DeSantis’ evil BS will be offset if not stymied.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2022, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-migrants-stunt/971656/227 "2022-09-20T03:15:02Z")

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> [@Dahnlor](#):
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> > [@Joey\_P](#):
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> > > [@Velocity](#):
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> > > “You pro-lifers talked the talk, now prove it by walking the walk.”
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> > Maybe every time someone holds up a sign stating “We’ll adopt your baby” at a pro-life rally, someone should pull them aside and start filling out the paperwork. See how long it takes before they say that they’re not actually interested in adopting a child.
> 
> Make sure it’s a black baby.

When I lived in Bible-belt Missouri there were a LOT of church-sponsored billboards wailing about the horrors of abortion. For some strange reason every pic they showed was of a cherubic 3-month old white baby who’d been saved by their parent’s not choosing abortion.

Despite the fact that percentage-wise non-white abortions outnumber white ones.

in other words, the racist bastards are too stupid / religiously addled to advocate for their own f\*\*\*ing racial advantage. Morons the lot of 'em.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2022, 11:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-migrants-stunt/971656/228 "2022-09-20T11:25:59Z")

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> [@commasense](#):
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> Who Would Jesus Deport?

Judas?

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**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2022, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-migrants-stunt/971656/229 "2022-09-20T15:43:45Z")

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[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/yenhpL6LO2E/maxresdefault.jpg "Ron DeSantis gets BRUTAL legal news over Martha’s Vineyard stunt") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yenhpL6LO2E)

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2022, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-migrants-stunt/971656/230 "2022-09-20T15:48:51Z")

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> [@puzzlegal](#):
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> These immigrants, who were healthy and determined enough to walk across the continent to get here, sure seem like they’d be beneficial.

I think they could be, but are they legally allowed to work while their cases are pending?

If so, then there’s a whole lot that needs to be done. If not, then they are by definition going to need to be using services, and chances are, they will end up being deported and the communities that supported them will not get the benefit of their work.

Now, my point in that is not to say that immigrants don’t have value, but that our pretty stupidly designed immigration system certainly does its best to eliminate that.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2022, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-migrants-stunt/971656/231 "2022-09-20T15:56:58Z")

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Many are asylum seekers and are going through the years-long process of pursuing this in the courts (which is entirely legal and proper). In the meantime, yes, they’re allowed to work here. The New York Times had an [article](https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/18/us/texas-migrants-bus-rides.html?unlocked_article_code=xhGYJFPQqp9PVkJBHd26MpsgDLgbwGDMmE1Mp0GIeyGFLArnD_G6Clc2Ways3M0bnsjASHhHlTWY08jdaq20WCBvqKr8NTiFMBF-rh_x5IMzKa82qSqAPBr5ya0xkFTYrehm1OIAPXytJv_AKVs1VmuLR6OZu5705zndOwTz-mk7GD983g_JQCQrVMOgN0AN820GEFcBnum_qm4pbLGmozl3OnCjlUVOPSAKwMtMdPoSTPciBStscDHq-ncPVIPP4axpuj-3MmwSP2ZO9_YegTXmnru9fOESwSSPif0DZrtZ_CkM5KbyZjAVCtmqLRTKgVgIEyNMyDTrLOU&smid=share-url) (gift link) yesterday about one guy who is working to support himself and his son back home in Venezuela while waiting for his case to be heard.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2022, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-migrants-stunt/971656/232 "2022-09-20T16:19:06Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> Many are asylum seekers and are going through the years-long process of pursuing this in the courts (which is entirely legal and proper). In the meantime, yes, they’re allowed to work here.

I want to believe you, because that’s how it _should_ be, but everything I look at says that they have to wait at least 365 days from when they apply for asylum before they can apply for a work permit. (Also in my research, I found that it used to be 150 days until it was increased to 365 under Trump.)

That’s not to say that they couldn’t be working under the table, but that’s a whole different story.

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**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2022, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-migrants-stunt/971656/233 "2022-09-20T16:25:14Z")

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> I want to believe you, because that’s how it _should_ be, but everything I look at says that they have to wait at least 365 days from when they apply for asylum before they can apply for a work permit. (Also in my research, I found that it used to be 150 days until it was increased to 365 under Trump.)

Wait. Now I can see why conservatives are all up-in-arms over this. These people are presumed to be sponging off the system while they wait? For a whole year? And TFG made it so they have to sponge even longer than before? But hey, rather than address the problem head-on, it’s much easier to grab headlines with other stunts.

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2022, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-migrants-stunt/971656/234 "2022-09-20T17:15:57Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> the racist bastards are too stupid / religiously addled to advocate for their own f\*\*\*ing racial advantage.

Hey c’mon, those private prisons aren’t gonna fill themselves! And we certainly don’t want to have to resort to filling them with white people. Think of the poor prison-industrial complex.

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**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2022, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-migrants-stunt/971656/235 "2022-09-20T17:17:51Z")

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> [@commasense](#):
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> The new WWJD:
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> Who Would Jesus Deport?

“Get those effing kids away from me and make them suffer!” – MAGA Jesus

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**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2022, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-migrants-stunt/971656/236 "2022-09-20T17:18:46Z")

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What I’m wondering- Could I convince De Santis I’m a Ukrainian immigrant seeking asylum so he would fly me somewhere?

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2022, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-migrants-stunt/971656/237 "2022-09-20T17:34:49Z")

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There is the scene from Cheech and Chong where they intentionally get deported in order to get free travel to their cousin’s wedding. (Or something like that, it’s been a while.)

But, life is not a Cheech and Chong movie. (Not sure if that’s a good thing or a bad thing, sometimes.)

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**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2022, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-migrants-stunt/971656/238 "2022-09-20T17:37:01Z")

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Life is however a Cheech solo movie- Born In East LA (non Spoiler This is all in the trailer) Cheech loses his wallet, has no idea who the President is and ends up being deported to Mexico.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2022, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-migrants-stunt/971656/239 "2022-09-20T17:50:31Z")

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A meme showed up on my FB feed: “Martha’s Vineyard should send a bus full of books to Florida.”

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**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2022, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-migrants-stunt/971656/240 "2022-09-20T17:56:44Z")

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Or if there are any MAGAt’s on the island.

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