# Republican “migrants stunt” **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 16, 2022, 8:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-migrants-stunt/971656 "2022-09-16T08:04:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2022, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-migrants-stunt/971656/121 "2022-09-16T22:00:23Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > Trump states he wants more Europeans to immigrate but even when they try to do so the GOP isn’t happy. Or maybe they really did want Swedish immigrants and not Slavic ones. I’m sure Trump is fine with Slavic supermodels, even undocumented ones from Ukraine seeking asylum. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2022, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-migrants-stunt/971656/122 "2022-09-16T22:00:37Z")
If they paid coyotes to smuggle them, your claim that they weren’t sneaking in is not at all credible. ---
**Author:** ![mordecaiB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mordecaib/32/7725_2.png) [@mordecaiB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mordecaiB)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2022, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-migrants-stunt/971656/123 "2022-09-16T22:06:58Z")
Are Burr Ridge and Elk Grove Village equipped to handle 100 refugees? They have a total population of 40,000. Surely Chicago has more resources to handle housing at least, especially if the state is paying the bills. Not to mention Chicago having a large Hispanic community to help ease the transition. Are any of the refugees/asylum seekers even allowed to work in the US? If so, it seems small towns is going to make that problematic. And fuck assholes who play games with people’s lives. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2022, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-migrants-stunt/971656/124 "2022-09-16T22:36:54Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > If they paid coyotes to smuggle them, your claim that they weren’t sneaking in is not at all credible. That’s not what she said. The quote is “They weren’t sneaking in with the intent to live here in a shadowy illegal underworld”. Broomstick did _not_ say they didn’t sneak in, she said they didn’t sneak in _with the intent_ to live in a shadowy illegal underworld. You have to read the entire sentence, not just part of it, before responding. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Bredin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@John\_Bredin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Bredin)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2022, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-migrants-stunt/971656/125 "2022-09-16T22:40:22Z")
> [@mordecaiB](#): > > Are Burr Ridge and Elk Grove Village equipped to handle 100 refugees? They have a total population of 40,000. And lots of hotels, which is where the Salvation Army moved the refugees. Neither is a small town for labor-market purposes; both are Chicago suburbs along major expressways, and at least Elk Grove Village (I don’t know Burr Ridge) is heavily light 🙂 industrial, warehouse & commercial. ---
**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2022, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-migrants-stunt/971656/126 "2022-09-16T23:18:25Z")
“Attention immigrants! Please find your way to the great state of Florida! The Governor welcomes you and requests your presence, and will pay your way to a better life in another state! Welcome! Welcome to Florida!”… > **[DeSantis defends Martha's Vineyard migrant flights, suggests more to come](https://www.reuters.com/world/us/tears-uncertainty-migrants-depart-marthas-vineyard-amid-political-standoff-2022-09-16/)** > > The flights follow a busing effort by Texas Governor Greg Abbott that has sent more than 10,000 migrants to the Democrat-controlled cities of Washington, New York and Chicago. The Republican governor of Arizona has sent more than 1,800 migrants to... ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2022, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-migrants-stunt/971656/127 "2022-09-16T23:33:43Z")
> [@snowthx](#): > > Attention immigrants! This reminds me of, _“Attention All Planets of The Solar Federation… We have assumed control”_ ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2022, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-migrants-stunt/971656/128 "2022-09-16T23:45:02Z")
> [@mordecaiB](#): > > Are Burr Ridge and Elk Grove Village equipped to handle 100 refugees? A lot of them probably agreed to go to Illinois because of friends or family in or near there, so it won’t be 100 for long. What none of them agreed to was going to an island where they know no one and where: [even the doctors can’t afford housing anymore](https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2022/09/16/marthas-vineyard-housing-rentals-crisis/) They were misled as to where they were going. From what I am reading they thought Massachusetts meant Boston, not Martha’s Vineyard or Cape Cod. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2022, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-migrants-stunt/971656/129 "2022-09-16T23:52:18Z")
> [@John\_Bredin](#): > > heavily light 🙂 industrial Hijack: there is a real estate company around here called something like “Leightley Commercial” who seem to focus on retail, offices, and all the way up to things that look like they could be used for light industry, so I always read their name as “Lightly Industrial / Commercial”. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2022, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-migrants-stunt/971656/130 "2022-09-17T01:03:19Z")
> [@snowthx](#): > > "Attention immigrants! Please find your way to the great state of Florida! The Governor welcomes you . . . What confuses me a bit is that Florida Republicans have long said that they welcome people who are fleeing [communism](https://www.orlandoweekly.com/news/florida-gov-ron-desantis-signs-law-requiring-schools-to-observe-victims-of-communism-day-31557717), and that [Venezuela is communist](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CrEKjJ6rmMg). So why is DeSantis sending Venezuelans away? AFAIK Venezuelans can’t apply for a U.S. immigration visa because we don’t have diplomatic relations with their country. So there is a legitimate reason to put them in a different category, and yet DeSantis is treating them with trickery. I wonder if Charlie Crist can peel off some Cuban-American votes with this. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2022, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-migrants-stunt/971656/131 "2022-09-17T01:15:04Z")
What’s that from? ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2022, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-migrants-stunt/971656/132 "2022-09-17T01:17:19Z")
The tail of of side 1 of Rush’s classic album “2112”, that’s where. Haven’t read most of this thread, but I’m going to say that if it leads to De(mon)Santis and Abbott not being re-elected, those will be good things. Now, if only we can turn Congress into a Marjorie Taylor Greene free zone, after she (allegedly? I can’t find the video) kicked a teenage activist? ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2022, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-migrants-stunt/971656/133 "2022-09-17T01:59:11Z")
[Glenn K suggests kidnapping by inveiglement.](https://youtu.be/IFsn-ZQu3oE?t=329) They wouldn’t have wanted to get on the planes if they weren’t lied to about the destination. ---
**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2022, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-migrants-stunt/971656/134 "2022-09-17T03:15:19Z")
So, given all of the above as a true account… …what was the point of this again? ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2022, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-migrants-stunt/971656/135 "2022-09-17T03:20:12Z")
> [@CaptMurdock](#): > > …what was the point of this again? Rile up the base for the election in six weeks. ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2022, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-migrants-stunt/971656/136 "2022-09-17T05:07:28Z")
And — as always — sweet, sweet liberal tears. Except any tears being shed are most likely because of the state some of these people are in rather than outrage (though I’m not dismissing the latter). ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2022, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-migrants-stunt/971656/137 "2022-09-17T05:52:35Z")
So some of them ARE sneaking in, just not to live in the shadows. That makes a difference, how? ---
**Author:** ![mordecaiB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mordecaib/32/7725_2.png) [@mordecaiB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mordecaiB)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2022, 8:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-migrants-stunt/971656/138 "2022-09-17T08:00:18Z")
> [@John\_Bredin](#): > > And lots of hotels, which is where the Salvation Army moved the refugees. Chicago has lots of hotels also. I’m just trying to understand why they would move these folks out of Chicago, where all the resources they may need are readily available. Things like contact with people working on their legal cases, ESL teachers, communities that are dual language where they can blend into to get used to life here. Even if they are simply going to be relocated to where they want to go, it seems keeping them all together in one spot would be easier. > [@D\_Anconia](#): > > So some of them ARE sneaking in, just not to live in the shadows. That makes a difference, how? It makes a difference because you need to be in the US to apply for asylum. If you try to apply at a US/Mexico border control port, odds are they will refuse asylum without a legal process. > [U.S. law says](https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=granuleid%3AUSC-prelim-title8-section1158&num=0&edition=prelim#0-0-0-192) “any alien who is physically present in the United States, or who arrives in the United States (whether or not at a designated port of arrival and including an alien who is brought to the United States after having been interdicted in international or United States waters), irrespective of such alien’s status, may apply for asylum.” > > So, you can apply for asylum if you are in the United States illegally. But one important requirement you can’t get around is the physical presence requirement. You can only apply for asylum if you are in the United States. > [@PhillyGuy](#): > > A lot of them probably agreed to go to Illinois because of friends or family in or near there, so it won’t be 100 for long. ETA: Sorry, missed this first time around. I didn’t realize that they were actually sent to the area they wanted to go to. I thought they were just randomly rounding people up and shipping them to various cities. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2022, 10:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-migrants-stunt/971656/139 "2022-09-17T10:29:37Z")
> [@mordecaiB](#): > > > [@John\_Bredin](#): > > > > And lots of hotels, which is where the Salvation Army moved the refugees. > > Chicago has lots of hotels also. I’m just trying to understand why they would move these folks out of Chicago, where all the resources they may need are readily available. Things like contact with people working on their legal cases, ESL teachers, communities that are dual language where they can blend into to get used to life here. Even if they are simply going to be relocated to where they want to go, it seems keeping them all together in one spot would be easier. Chicago hotels are hella expensive, unless you’re on the very fringes of the city, and it might be hard to get a large block of rooms on short notice. Chicago suburbs also have minority communities, ESL, lawyers, etc. And from some suburbs travel back into and out of the Chicago city center is pretty straightforward and doesn’t require a car. I was not privy to the decisions that led to these people being housed someplace like Burr Ridge so beyond the small observations here I can’t really comment beyond saying it’s not inherently a bad idea. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2022, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-migrants-stunt/971656/140 "2022-09-17T11:21:20Z")
> [@PhillyGuy](#): > > AFAIK Venezuelans can’t apply for a U.S. immigration visa because we don’t have diplomatic relations with their country. So there is a legitimate reason to put them in a different category, and yet DeSantis is treating them with trickery. I wonder if Charlie Crist can peel off some Cuban-American votes with this. Excellent idea. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-migrants-stunt/971656.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-migrants-stunt/971656.md?page=8)