# Republican National Convention thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [September 3, 2008, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-national-convention-thread/461817 "2008-09-03T04:31:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-national-convention-thread/461817/61 "2008-09-04T19:53:32Z")
I’d say it makes a lot of sense. It was the first major appearance of a relatively unknown quantity, one of whose demographics is a still somewhat of a novelty in Presidential politics. Add that to the folks already enthusiastic about her for her political views, and you have a ratings winner. (Not to mention anyone who was bored of Obama and/or McCain already. :)) Edit: Quantity was actually more important (to the second sentence) than quality! Imagine that! ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-national-convention-thread/461817/62 "2008-09-04T19:54:38Z")
> [@Stephe96](#): > > Barack is now comparing his own record to that of his opponent’s pick for VP!!! Cite for Barack doing this? By the way, multiple exclamation points are for little girls. ---
**Author:** ![Stephe96](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Stephe96](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stephe96)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-national-convention-thread/461817/63 "2008-09-04T19:59:55Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Cite for Barack doing this? > > By the way, multiple exclamation points are for little girls. I’m sorry. I can understand why a rabid Obama supporter might be extra terrified of a “little girl” today. Your stuttering, jug-eared doofus candidate with zero experience and absolutely no accomplishments, and an appalling lack of judgement when it comes to choosing friends and/or associates (Rezko, Wright, Ayers), received a smack-down for the ages last night. ---
**Author:** ![Stephe96](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Stephe96](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stephe96)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-national-convention-thread/461817/64 "2008-09-04T20:05:24Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Cite for Barack doing this? Oh, and your cite: [http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2008/09/obama\_strikes\_b.html](http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2008/09/obama_strikes_b.html) “Barack Obama forcefully defended his work as a community organizer against criticism from Republicans, particularly vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin.” ---
**Author:** ![ArizonaTeach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/45deac/32.png) [@ArizonaTeach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ArizonaTeach)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-national-convention-thread/461817/65 "2008-09-04T20:24:00Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Obama Vs. Palin is a fucking blowout for Obama. You’d like to think that. You’d be wrong. ---
**Author:** ![ArizonaTeach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/45deac/32.png) [@ArizonaTeach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ArizonaTeach)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-national-convention-thread/461817/66 "2008-09-04T20:25:24Z")
Interestingly, Obama donations are up…way up…because of the Palin speech. But Dems aren’t running scared, no siree. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-national-convention-thread/461817/67 "2008-09-04T20:46:21Z")
> [@ArizonaTeach](#): > > Interestingly, Obama donations are up…way up…because of the Palin speech. > > But Dems aren’t running scared, no siree. Yes. Clearly Obama’s skyrocketing donations are good news for McCain. ---
**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-national-convention-thread/461817/68 "2008-09-04T20:53:12Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > -The sun is gonna rise in the west, not over those elites in Washington [because the non-elite McCain is in the west]. Yeah! Seriously! Those Republicans are SO not elitist at all. Definitely not. No, sir. Oh, wait. . .[Cindy’s outfit for the night cost more than most folks’ homes.](http://www.stylelist.com/blog/2008/09/04/cindy-mccains-rnc-outfit-worth-over-300k/) ---
**Author:** ![Stephe96](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Stephe96](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stephe96)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-national-convention-thread/461817/69 "2008-09-04T21:08:53Z")
Meanwhile, the latest CBS News poll has the race tied; this even before McCain’s convention speech! [http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/09/04/opinion/polls/main4416798.shtml](http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/09/04/opinion/polls/main4416798.shtml) “The presidential race between Barack Obama and John McCain is now even at 42 percent, according to a new CBS News poll conducted Monday-Wednesday of this week.” And, of course, since this IS CBS News I’m fairly sure you can add at least 6 or 7 points to McCain’s numbers. ---
**Author:** ![Oy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bc8723/32.png) [@Oy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oy)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-national-convention-thread/461817/70 "2008-09-04T21:10:34Z")
> [@Stephe96](#): > > Oh, and your cite: > [http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2008/09/obama\_strikes\_b.html](http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2008/09/obama_strikes_b.html) > > “Barack Obama forcefully defended his work as a community organizer against criticism from Republicans, particularly vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin.” He didn’t so much as mention Palin or McCain. He listed the things that the Democrats have talked about that the Republicans haven’t in their convention. How is that running scared or even striking back? Or am I seeing the wrong clip? This one is from York, PA, and it’s 1:58 in length. [QUOTE=DiosaBellissima ] Yeah! Seriously! Those Republicans are SO not elitist at all. Definitely not. No, sir. Oh, wait. . .Cindy’s outfit for the night cost more than most folks’ homes. [/QUOTE] Gotta say, though, without the jewels, I love the dress. Not the color so much, but the cut. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-national-convention-thread/461817/71 "2008-09-04T21:17:46Z")
> [@ArizonaTeach](#): > > [37 million watched Palin.](http://www.thrfeed.com/2008/09/palin-ratings-s.html) That’s slightly less than Obama, but around 13 million more than Biden. > > Make of that what you will. She is more watchable? ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-national-convention-thread/461817/72 "2008-09-04T21:23:45Z")
> [@Stephe96](#): > > Meanwhile, the latest CBS News poll has the race tied; this even before McCain’s convention speech! > > [CBS Poll: McCain, Obama Tied - CBS News](http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/09/04/opinion/polls/main4416798.shtml) > > “The presidential race between Barack Obama and John McCain is now even at 42 percent, according to a new CBS News poll conducted Monday-Wednesday of this week.” Interesting the gap was closed by Obama decreasing in his numbers and McCain not moving up at all. [http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/latestpolls/index.html](http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/latestpolls/index.html) Three cheers for Republican smear tactics! I wouldn’t expect it to last once the Reps get away from a choreographed convention and they let reporters at Palin for once. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-national-convention-thread/461817/73 "2008-09-04T21:32:34Z")
> [@Stephe96](#): > > Meanwhile, the latest CBS News poll has the race tied; this even before McCain’s convention speech! > > [CBS Poll: McCain, Obama Tied - CBS News](http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/09/04/opinion/polls/main4416798.shtml) > > “The presidential race between Barack Obama and John McCain is now even at 42 percent, according to a new CBS News poll conducted Monday-Wednesday of this week.” > > And, of course, since this IS CBS News I’m fairly sure you can add at least 6 or 7 points to McCain’s numbers. [Today’s Daily Rasmussen](http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/daily_presidential_tracking_poll): Obama 50% McCain 45% [Today’s Daily Gallup](http://gallup.com/home.aspx) Obama 49% McCain 42% I wouldn’t get too excited if I was you. ---
**Author:** ![ArizonaTeach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/45deac/32.png) [@ArizonaTeach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ArizonaTeach)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-national-convention-thread/461817/74 "2008-09-04T22:41:30Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > [Today’s Daily Rasmussen](http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/daily_presidential_tracking_poll): > Obama 50% > McCain 45% > > [Today’s Daily Gallup](http://gallup.com/home.aspx) > Obama 49% > McCain 42% > > I wouldn’t get too excited if I was you. Here’s the money shot: > [@Rasmussen](#): > > Last night’s polling shows that, by a ten-to-one margin, voters believe reporters are trying to hurt Palin’s campaign rather than help. Republicans and unaffiliated voters strongly believe that a double standard is being applied to Palin because she is a woman. Democrats disagree. Perhaps most stunning is that, among unaffiliated voters, just 42% believe Obama has better experience than Palin to be President. Thirty-seven percent (37%) say Palin has the edge on experience. Again, most of the interviews for this survey were completed before Palin’s well-received speech last night. ---
**Author:** ![ArizonaTeach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/45deac/32.png) [@ArizonaTeach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ArizonaTeach)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-national-convention-thread/461817/75 "2008-09-04T22:42:30Z")
> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#): > > Yes. Clearly Obama’s skyrocketing donations are good news for McCain. Awwww, you know what I mean, and it scares ya. Scares ya! ---
**Author:** ![Stephe96](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Stephe96](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stephe96)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-national-convention-thread/461817/76 "2008-09-04T22:46:32Z")
Meanwhile, Obama tells Bill O’Reilly tonight that he was totally wrong about the surge in Iraq. (Well, not in those words!) “I think that the surge has succeeded in ways that nobody anticipated,” Obama said while refusing to retract his initial opposition to the surge. “I’ve already said it’s succeeded beyond our wildest dreams.” [http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/09/04/obama-surge-succeeded-beyond-wildest-dreams/](http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/09/04/obama-surge-succeeded-beyond-wildest-dreams/) So let’s recap: Biden blew it with his initial vote in support of the war, and Obama was absolutely wrong to oppose the surge. Yep, this certainly is a pair of foreign policy brainiacs, huh? ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-national-convention-thread/461817/77 "2008-09-04T22:46:41Z")
> [@Stephe96](#): > > And, of course, since this IS CBS News I’m fairly sure you can add at least 6 or 7 points to McCain’s numbers. Hey, why stop there. To quote the man himself, “Maybe 100. That would be fine with me.” ---
**Author:** ![Oy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bc8723/32.png) [@Oy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oy)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-national-convention-thread/461817/78 "2008-09-04T22:48:46Z")
[Quote=DtC] I wouldn’t get too excited if I was you. [/QUOTE] If I were you. Subjunctive. Please. ---
**Author:** ![Stephe96](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Stephe96](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stephe96)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-national-convention-thread/461817/79 "2008-09-04T22:52:26Z")
> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#): > > Hey, why stop there. To quote the man himself, “Maybe 100. That would be fine with me.” Who is “the man” and where is that quote from? ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2008, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-national-convention-thread/461817/80 "2008-09-04T22:55:07Z")
> [@Stephe96](#): > > So let’s recap: Biden blew it with his initial vote in support of the war, and Obama was absolutely wrong to oppose the surge. Yep, this certainly is a pair of foreign policy brainiacs, huh? Meanwhile, McCain supported the war, parroted the Bush talking points about how quick and painless it would be. And Palin she, um, she…her thoughts on the war were, ummm…well regarding the surge she was, hmmm…She read about it in the paper, she said, so she’s got that going for her… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-national-convention-thread/461817.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-national-convention-thread/461817.md?page=5)