# Republican Senators dishonor themselves

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-senators-dishonor-themselves/582605>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 20, 2011, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-senators-dishonor-themselves/582605 "2011-05-20T18:30:23Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 10\
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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2011, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-senators-dishonor-themselves/582605/21 "2011-05-21T03:05:43Z")

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Fair enough, then. I withdraw my support for this pitting.

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**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2011, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-senators-dishonor-themselves/582605/22 "2011-05-21T03:10:00Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> Fair enough, then. I withdraw my support for this pitting.

The pitting is still valid, it just needs to be expanded to dems and pubs and everyone who votes for them. (and all non-voters since they let it happen, and everyone who voted for a third party, because they threw their vote away)

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2011, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-senators-dishonor-themselves/582605/23 "2011-05-21T03:18:03Z")

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I’ve long since abandoned the idea of holding public officeholders to a high standard. I think holding them to the standard of “better than the other guys” is about all we’ve got.

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**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2011, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-senators-dishonor-themselves/582605/24 "2011-05-21T03:49:01Z")

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Article 2, Section 2 of the Constitution (duties of the President) states:

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> He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make  
> Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur; and he shall nominate, and by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, shall appoint Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, Judges of the supreme Court, and all other Officers of the United States, whose Appointments are not herein otherwise provided for, and which shall be established by Law: but the Congress may by Law vest the Appointment of such inferior Officers, as they think proper, in the President alone, in the Courts of Law, or in the Heads of Departments.

How in the world did we degenerate down to the level of having the Senate give a proctological exam to every nominee?

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**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2011, 6:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-senators-dishonor-themselves/582605/25 "2011-05-21T06:17:24Z")

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This doesn’t surprise me in the least. I never thought that the Republicans would honor their word. That they did it on such a superbly qualified candidate who isn’t really controversial is not surprising either.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2011, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-senators-dishonor-themselves/582605/26 "2011-05-21T16:05:33Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> How in the world did we degenerate down to the level of having the Senate give a proctological exam to every nominee?

Because the founders either wanted the Senate to determine their own level of involvement, or were stupid and weren’t specific enough. “Advice and consent” is pretty vague.

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2011, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-senators-dishonor-themselves/582605/27 "2011-05-21T16:53:43Z")

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Why isn’t Sessions the supreme lap dog on the list?

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**Author:** ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-senators-dishonor-themselves/582605/28 "2011-05-23T14:27:29Z")

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Hypocritical politicians are hypocritical.

Film at 11.

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**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-senators-dishonor-themselves/582605/29 "2011-05-23T14:51:12Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> How in the world did we degenerate down to the level of having the Senate give a proctological exam to every nominee?

In the _Federalist Papers_, Hamilton (I think) argued that the senate would only vote down judges in the most extreme circumstances, because senators are electable, and wouldn’t want to risk their reputations on an issue of politics before honest judicial qualifications. He also said the president would be persuaded to only appoint judges that were decent, for fear of the embarrassment of the senate finding disfavor.

It’s almost sweet that he really seems to have believed it.

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republican-senators-dishonor-themselves/582605/30 "2011-05-23T15:18:49Z")

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Sessions gave a speech in front of the Senate saying Harriet Meyers was the single most qualified Supreme Court nominee in the country. I shuddered at how he could say it. He is a partisan hack to the nth degree.  
While he was giving the speech, the rest of the Repubs were trying to derail her nomination. They knew she was a joke and impossible to defend.  
How the hell Alabamans can vote for him over and over is a mystery to me.  
When he gets in front of the senate, I feel embarrassed for him.

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