Republican strategy re: oil spill

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@DanBlather

50 years from now people will look back on the anti-nuclear folks as similar to the collaborators in France:

In the very last sentence of the novel, it’s revealed that HITLER is a lump of ANTHRACITE!!! :eek:

[gonzomax]

@DanBlather

It would be even more surprising if birth defects were distributed uniformly.

50 years from now people will look back on the anti-nuclear folks as similar to the collaborators in France: “Daddy what did you do when the earth was warming due to greenhouse gases?”.

With the exception of Chernobyl, there simply have not been many adverse effects from nuclear power. Compare that to all the deaths from coal mining and oil exploration, gas leaks in houses, accidents transporting oil and gasoline, premature deaths from asthma exacerbated by air pollution, etc.

People opposing nuclear power twist the truth every bit as much as Palin did about healthcare. It’s shameful. Let’s at least have a reasoned debate.

Nuke takes a very long time to build. It is very expensive to build. the energy it produces is not price competitive. It produces waste that can not be handled. What is being twisted? They can not buy insurance. Wonder why that is?
Alternative energy should be vigorously pushed. Want a nuke plant.? Put it in your back yard. I have one 25 miles away, that has been down more than it has been working.

[Chronos]

All power plants take a long time and are expensive to produce. The energy nuclear produces is price competitive, especially if you charge coal for the cost of disposing of waste. Nuclear waste is much more easily handled than carbon dioxide. Nuke plants are a kind of alternative energy.

[SenorBeef]

@gonzomax

I’ve read studies that state the radiation leak at 3 Mile Island was strong and pockets of birth defects and cancers have resulted. They state that the idea that nobody died as a result of the incident is false.

Do you have a cite for this? The “studies” you alude to are probably not actual peer-reviewed studies, but anomaly hunting by conspiracy theorists - or at least people trying to prove a case.

@gonzomax

Nuke takes a very long time to build. It is very expensive to build. the energy it produces is not price competitive. It produces waste that can not be handled. What is being twisted? They can not buy insurance. Wonder why that is?
Alternative energy should be vigorously pushed. Want a nuke plant.? Put it in your back yard. I have one 25 miles away, that has been down more than it has been working.

Bolding mine.

I find it really adorable that whenever some company does something to save a buck that would harm the environment/people/etc. gonzo is OUTRAGED! OUTRAGED!!! at their heartless evil profit motive. But suddenly when opposing nuclear power, money is now a big deal and saving it at the expense of the environment and people is just the right thing to do.

I’d love to have a nuke plant in my back yard, btw. I will live on top of fucking yucca mountain if that’s what it takes to get people to start being reasonable about our future and not fucking the world and humanity because they’re luddites.

[msmith537]

@Chronos

msmith537, you say that as if reducing a disaster to a mere Three Mile Island is a bad thing. If only the average Interstate car crash, for example, were reduced to the severity of the Three Mile Island disaster, the world would be a better place.

It’s actually a Mr Burns quote from The Simpsons.

I’m not opposed to nuclear power, but I think it’s a bit disingenuous to consider it a panacea for our energy problems.

[gonzomax]

@SenorBeef

Do you have a cite for this? The “studies” you alude to are probably not actual peer-reviewed studies, but anomaly hunting by conspiracy theorists - or at least people trying to prove a case.

Bolding mine.

I find it really adorable that whenever some company does something to save a buck that would harm the environment/people/etc. gonzo is OUTRAGED! OUTRAGED!!! at their heartless evil profit motive. But suddenly when opposing nuclear power, money is now a big deal and saving it at the expense of the environment and people is just the right thing to do.

I’d love to have a nuke plant in my back yard, btw. I will live on top of fucking yucca mountain if that’s what it takes to get people to start being reasonable about our future and not fucking the world and humanity because they’re luddites.

I have one near mine. The Fermi plant. Look it up. It never got to full power, has had many incidents, has released bad chemicals and gases and has been shut down over and over. I am not outraged at all. I know people can be convinced of something that is not true with enough propaganda. I am used to it. I know you guys listen to mainstream news who are corporate supported. Of course you can accept everything they say. The government has to support construction and insure them. Why? It takes 10 years to build them. And don’t you just love the cost overruns? I am not outraged. I just think nuke is not the answer.