# Republicans and Dems let the gov't shut down on 09/30/25, then what? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 18, 2025, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-and-dems-let-the-govt-shut-down-on-09-30-25-then-what/1023157 "2025-09-18T17:18:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2025, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-and-dems-let-the-govt-shut-down-on-09-30-25-then-what/1023157/41 "2025-10-01T14:35:35Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > Of course the Republicans are lying, claiming the Democrats are demanding health care for “illegal aliens”. Senator Bill Cassidy (R-LA) threw yet one more culture-war log onto the fire atop of that (my ellipsis). **[Spoken on the floor of the US Senate Monday](https://www.cassidy.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/cassidy-highlights-flood-insurance-risks-in-face-of-government-shutdown/)**: > _… they walked away from a bill that simply extended the existing budget for seven weeks to allow further negotiation._ > > _Now, they demand a highly partisan bill which would add more than one TRILLION dollars to our national debt._ > > _They want taxpayer-funded health care for illegal immigrants._ > > _ **Transgender surgery for minors.** _ > > _And to cut the $50 billion Rural Hospital Fund Republicans created as part of our Working Families Tax Cuts bill._ > > _Americans are left wondering how a shutdown will affect their flood insurance, while Democrats are writing checks to appease the far-Left._ ---
**Author:** ![Nauplius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nauplius/32/51_2.png) [@Nauplius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nauplius)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2025, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-and-dems-let-the-govt-shut-down-on-09-30-25-then-what/1023157/42 "2025-10-01T15:17:51Z")
The Housing and Urban Development website has a giant banner on the top claiming: “ **The Radical Left in Congress shut down the government.”** So much for professionalism. > **[HUD Home | HUD.gov / U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD)](https://www.hud.gov/)** ---
**Author:** ![JohnGalt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johngalt/32/184_2.png) [@JohnGalt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnGalt)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2025, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-and-dems-let-the-govt-shut-down-on-09-30-25-then-what/1023157/43 "2025-10-01T15:25:30Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > To JD Vance, a proper sentence includes a noun, a verb, and “illegal aliens”. You gotta trademark that phrase. It’ll come in useful in the next presidential election. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2025, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-and-dems-let-the-govt-shut-down-on-09-30-25-then-what/1023157/44 "2025-10-01T16:26:43Z")
> [@Nauplius](#): > > So much for professionalism. I’ve seen reports that several departments have sent e-mails to their staff with similar phrasing. ---
**Author:** ![CoolHandCox](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coolhandcox/32/16233_2.png) [@CoolHandCox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CoolHandCox)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2025, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-and-dems-let-the-govt-shut-down-on-09-30-25-then-what/1023157/45 "2025-10-01T19:05:20Z")
A work email auto-reply from some out of work SBA employees: > “I am out of office for the foreseeable future because Senate Democrats voted to block a clean federal funding bill (H.R. 5371), leading to a government shutdown that is preventing the U.S. Small Business Administration (SBA) from serving America’s 36 million small businesses,” the out-of-office response read. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2025, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-and-dems-let-the-govt-shut-down-on-09-30-25-then-what/1023157/46 "2025-10-01T19:16:09Z")
This is on several websites. [USDA.gov](http://USDA.gov) says “Due to the Radical Left Democrat shutdown, this government website will not be updated during the funding lapse. President Trump has made it clear he wants to keep the government open and support those who feed, fuel, and clothe the American people.” [CDC.gov](http://CDC.gov) says “The Trump Administration is working to reopen the government for the American people. Mission-critical activities of CDC will continue during the Democrat-led government shutdown.” ---
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2025, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-and-dems-let-the-govt-shut-down-on-09-30-25-then-what/1023157/47 "2025-10-01T19:16:10Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > I’ve seen reports that several departments have sent e-mails to their staff with similar phrasing. We received one on 9/28, over the name of the head of our Agency, saying: _President Trump opposes a government shutdown, and strongly supports the enactment of H.R. 5371, which is a clean Continuing Resolution to fund the government through November 21, and already passed the U.S. House of Representatives. Unfortunately, Democrats are blocking this Continuing Resolution in the U.S. Senate due to unrelated policy demands. If Congressional Democrats maintain their current posture and refuse to pass a clean Continuing Resolution to keep the government funded before midnight on September 30, 2025, federal appropriated funding will lapse._ _…_ _The agency has contingency plans in place for executing an orderly shutdown of activities that would be affected by any lapse in appropriations forced by Congressional Democrats. Further information about those plans will be distributed should a lapse occur._ I’m pretty sure I have an obligation to report Hatch Act violations…. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2025, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-and-dems-let-the-govt-shut-down-on-09-30-25-then-what/1023157/48 "2025-10-01T19:19:31Z")
Remember when we used to have the Hatch Act, and it was actually occasionally enforced? ---
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2025, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-and-dems-let-the-govt-shut-down-on-09-30-25-then-what/1023157/49 "2025-10-01T19:21:01Z")
This is your regular reminder than in a Westminster-style parliamentary system a ruling party that fails to pass a budget must dissolve parliament and call a new election. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2025, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-and-dems-let-the-govt-shut-down-on-09-30-25-then-what/1023157/50 "2025-10-01T19:40:13Z")
> [@Mortimus](#): > > The idea has been floated that the Dems don’t play ball on the budget bill to deliberately let the government shut down. The GOP has a majority in both houses of Congress. In no way shape or form is this the fault of the Democrats. > [@Chisquirrel](#): > > Republicans don’t need Democrats to pass the budget barring a Senate filibuster. Why exactly are Democrats, yet again, being blamed for not bailing out Republicans? Right. This is MAGA lies and propaganda. ---
**Author:** ![Scoobysnax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c4cdca/32.png) [@Scoobysnax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scoobysnax)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2025, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-and-dems-let-the-govt-shut-down-on-09-30-25-then-what/1023157/51 "2025-10-01T19:43:53Z")
holy shit, that is insane. ---
**Author:** ![Hari\_Seldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hari_seldon/32/5173_2.png) [@Hari\_Seldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hari_Seldon)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2025, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-and-dems-let-the-govt-shut-down-on-09-30-25-then-what/1023157/52 "2025-10-01T19:49:11Z")
> [@Gorsnak](#): > > This is your regular reminder than in a Westminster-style parliamentary system a ruling party that fails to pass a budget must dissolve parliament and call a new election. Do you think that a vat of boiling sulfuric acid would suffice to dissolve this “government”? ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2025, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-and-dems-let-the-govt-shut-down-on-09-30-25-then-what/1023157/53 "2025-10-01T20:03:00Z")
> [@Scoobysnax](#): > > holy shit, that is insane But is it surprising? This is the tone Trump has always set. He can’t even send out a holiday message without shittalking the Democrats, so why would you expect anything different now? The top levels of all these departments are all staffed by bootlickers and sycophants, and they know which pair of boots they should be licking. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2025, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-and-dems-let-the-govt-shut-down-on-09-30-25-then-what/1023157/54 "2025-10-01T20:40:07Z")
> [@Chisquirrel](#): > > Why exactly are Democrats, yet again, being blamed for not bailing out Republicans? Because everything bad is always the Democrats’ fault. And everything good, even stuff done by Democrats, is always a Republican achievement. * * * > [@Gorsnak](#): > > This is your regular reminder than in a Westminster-style parliamentary system a ruling party that fails to pass a budget must dissolve parliament and call a new election. Don’t rub it in. ---
**Author:** ![CoolHandCox](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coolhandcox/32/16233_2.png) [@CoolHandCox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CoolHandCox)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2025, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-and-dems-let-the-govt-shut-down-on-09-30-25-then-what/1023157/55 "2025-10-01T21:08:11Z")
I’m confused. The bills the Senate have been voting on to fund the Gov’t/prevent a shutdown require 60 votes to pass. If that needs a cite, happy to provide. What is the route Republicans can take that would only require 50 votes in the Senate? ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2025, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-and-dems-let-the-govt-shut-down-on-09-30-25-then-what/1023157/56 "2025-10-01T21:17:27Z")
Compromising. That will get them 60. ---
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2025, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-and-dems-let-the-govt-shut-down-on-09-30-25-then-what/1023157/57 "2025-10-01T21:25:16Z")
Changing the rules like they did the last time they didn’t want to compromise. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2025, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-and-dems-let-the-govt-shut-down-on-09-30-25-then-what/1023157/58 "2025-10-01T21:32:50Z")
> [@JRDelirious](#): > > Compromising. > That will get them 60. This. Both sides never get what they want and politicians _should_ know that compromise is the way forward. Problem is the right thinks if they yell “dems fault” loudly and often enough, the dems will fold and the right will get everything they want. ---
**Author:** ![CoolHandCox](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coolhandcox/32/16233_2.png) [@CoolHandCox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CoolHandCox)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2025, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-and-dems-let-the-govt-shut-down-on-09-30-25-then-what/1023157/59 "2025-10-01T21:35:26Z")
Got it. Changing the rules would be permanent then and all future bills like this would only ever require 50 votes to pass. Like what was done when they changed the rules for Judicial nominations. It’s a big change, but I now get they could do it if it was important enough to them. I thought spending bills only needed 50 but it appears some do, and some don’t. And this is the kind that needs 60. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2025, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-and-dems-let-the-govt-shut-down-on-09-30-25-then-what/1023157/60 "2025-10-01T23:55:30Z")
> [@Hari\_Seldon](#): > > Do you think that a vat of boiling sulfuric acid would suffice to dissolve this “government”? Let’s try it and see! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-and-dems-let-the-govt-shut-down-on-09-30-25-then-what/1023157.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-and-dems-let-the-govt-shut-down-on-09-30-25-then-what/1023157.md?page=4)