# Republicans and Racist Candidates **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 6, 2012, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-and-racist-candidates/627368 "2012-07-06T00:12:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![End\_Racism\_Now](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/71e660/32.png) [@End\_Racism\_Now](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/End_Racism_Now)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2012, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-and-racist-candidates/627368/1 "2012-07-06T00:12:53Z")
You won’t hear this from the racist, but corporate-owned media, of the six Republican candidates since 1980, four chose to join officially racist organizations. Three joined the officially segregated US military, and Romney joined the officially racist Mormon church. This party must, be stopped. Spread the word. ---
**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2012, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-and-racist-candidates/627368/2 "2012-07-06T00:18:27Z")
Sigh. I’m a raging liberal and even I am tired of these posts. Will you please provide some backup for your assertions. Which officially racist organizations? Which Republican candidates? These contentless, contextless, and unsupported drive-bys are driving me nuts. You and your ilk make liberals look bad. Please go away. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2012, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-and-racist-candidates/627368/3 "2012-07-06T00:19:56Z")
Can you try this again, but make it make sense. Try pulling back on the commas for starters. ---
**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2012, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-and-racist-candidates/627368/4 "2012-07-06T00:26:14Z")
> [@Onomatopoeia](#): > > Which officially racist organizations? Which Republican candidates? > [@End\_Racism\_Now](#): > > Three joined the officially segregated US military, and Romney joined the officially racist Mormon church. Because if you join the military you’re personally responsibe for all their policies, just as if you are a Mormon you are personally responsible for all policies in place. :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![End\_Racism\_Now](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/71e660/32.png) [@End\_Racism\_Now](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/End_Racism_Now)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2012, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-and-racist-candidates/627368/5 "2012-07-06T00:29:56Z")
> [@zoid](#): > > Because if you join the military you’re personally responsibe for all their policies, just as if you are a Mormon you are personally responsible for all policies in place. > :dubious: Perhaps you missed that they chose to join these organizations ---
**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2012, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-and-racist-candidates/627368/6 "2012-07-06T00:31:33Z")
> [@End\_Racism\_Now](#): > > Perhaps you missed that they chose to join these organizations Perhaps you missed the entire point of my post. Are you seriously suggestion that every single person who joined the military during the same period is a racist, that all Mormons are racist? Really?! ---
**Author:** ![End\_Racism\_Now](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/71e660/32.png) [@End\_Racism\_Now](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/End_Racism_Now)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2012, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-and-racist-candidates/627368/7 "2012-07-06T00:35:38Z")
Doesn’t necessarily mean they are racists, but they chose to join and participate in racist organizations without speaking out. ---
**Author:** ![End\_Racism\_Now](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/71e660/32.png) [@End\_Racism\_Now](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/End_Racism_Now)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2012, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-and-racist-candidates/627368/8 "2012-07-06T00:39:38Z")
Shows that at a minimum, they were willing to close their eyes and support and join in evil. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2012, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-and-racist-candidates/627368/9 "2012-07-06T00:42:58Z")
Could you explain why you consider the military to be a racist organization? ---
**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2012, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-and-racist-candidates/627368/10 "2012-07-06T00:44:39Z")
> [@End\_Racism\_Now](#): > > Doesn’t necessarily mean they are racists, but they chose to join and participate in racist organizations without speaking out. Enjoy your stay, **End Racism Now**. What was it that Tyrell said to Roy Batty? ---
**Author:** ![End\_Racism\_Now](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/71e660/32.png) [@End\_Racism\_Now](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/End_Racism_Now)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2012, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-and-racist-candidates/627368/11 "2012-07-06T00:45:43Z")
Just like standing in a crowd around a gang raping a woman and cheering and saluting the rapists doesn’t make a person a rapist or misogynist. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2012, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-and-racist-candidates/627368/12 "2012-07-06T00:46:49Z")
> [@runner pat](#): > > Could you explain why you consider the military to be a racist organization? Why it has a long history of being BEHIND the curve in race relations like in world war 2, where black did NOT have a much greater opportunity than in the rest of society. I repeat, the rest of America was MUCH more equal than the military in world war 2! ---
**Author:** ![End\_Racism\_Now](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/71e660/32.png) [@End\_Racism\_Now](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/End_Racism_Now)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2012, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-and-racist-candidates/627368/13 "2012-07-06T00:48:24Z")
> [@runner pat](#): > > Could you explain why you consider the military to be a racist organization? It was officially segregated at the times those men joined. How you even ask that question? ---
**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2012, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-and-racist-candidates/627368/14 "2012-07-06T00:48:45Z")
Ah I see, you’re a Morman and you personally know for a fact the Mitt Romney did not speak out to his church elders about the racist policies. Likewise your crystal ball tells you that those who joined the military did so not because of a desire to support their country despite the fact that there were clearly unfair policies, but that they simply didn’t care. You know for a fact that none of these people did anything like say, stand up for fellow soilders and fight against the inequality they saw. Good to know you’re omnicient. I have no idea if these people are racist or not - that’s why I’m not making a claim either way. See how that works? ---
**Author:** ![Erdosain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/erdosain/32/7284_2.png) [@Erdosain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Erdosain)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2012, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-and-racist-candidates/627368/15 "2012-07-06T00:53:55Z")
> [@End\_Racism\_Now](#): > > It was officially segregated at the times those men joined. How you even ask that question? Yeah, Bob Dole and George H. W. Bush fought in World War II. What racist dicks! Also, Mitt Romney was inculcated into Mormonism from birth, so he didn’t really choose that either. Although you’d think he’d have the good grace to be embarrassed about recruiting for a racially segregated church (as well as being embarrassed that they were officially racist and segregated well into the Carter administration) but we all know that isn’t going happen. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2012, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-and-racist-candidates/627368/16 "2012-07-06T01:02:15Z")
> [@End\_Racism\_Now](#): > > It was officially segregated at the times those men joined. How you even ask that question? [From here.](http://afroamhistory.about.com/od/civilrightsstruggle1/a/order9981.htm) > [@](#): > > Executive Order 9981 > African-American activist and leader Philip Randolph told Truman that if he did not end segregation in the armed forces, African Americans would start refusing to serve in the armed forces. Desirous of African American political support and wanting to bolster U.S. reputation abroad, Truman decided to desegregate the military. > > Truman did not think it likely that such legislation would make it through Congress. So instead, Truman used an executive order to end military segregation. Executive Order 9981, signed on July 26, 1948, forbade discriminating against military personnel because of race, color, religion, or national origin. Don’t forget that military service was not voluntary. Not everyone chose to serve. ---
**Author:** ![MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MPB_in_Salt_Lake)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2012, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-and-racist-candidates/627368/17 "2012-07-06T01:07:56Z")
> [@End\_Racism\_Now](#): > > Just like standing in a crowd around a gang raping a woman and cheering and saluting the rapists doesn’t make a person a rapist or misogynist. I thought that makes you a Norwegian…😕 ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2012, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-and-racist-candidates/627368/18 "2012-07-06T01:13:05Z")
Several of the Democratic candidates since 1980 have seen military service, why are they not equally racist? ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2012, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-and-racist-candidates/627368/19 "2012-07-06T01:13:43Z")
> [@End\_Racism\_Now](#): > > You won’t hear this from the racist, but corporate-owned media, of the six Republican candidates since 1980, four chose to join officially racist organizations. > > Three joined the officially segregated US military, and Romney joined the officially racist Mormon church. > > This party must, be stopped. Spread the word. Is the other major party dramatically different? Al Gore attended segregated St Alban’s Scool in 1956, Bill Clinton was a member of a Freemasonry youth group at a time and in a state where blacks could not be Freemasons, both Dukakis and Mondale were Army vets from an era where the Army had not yet integrated in any meaningful way, and Jimmy Carter was a Naval officer from before the US Navy was integrated. Isn’t that a silly standard to create? But if you are going to create it, it seems to me flawed to only apply it to one party. ---
**Author:** ![End\_Racism\_Now](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/71e660/32.png) [@End\_Racism\_Now](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/End_Racism_Now)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2012, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-and-racist-candidates/627368/20 "2012-07-06T01:19:55Z")
> [@runner pat](#): > > Several of the Democratic candidates since 1980 have seen military service, why are they not equally racist? Which served in the segregated military? [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-and-racist-candidates/627368.md?page=2)