# Republicans are taking away my unemployment for my own good. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 8, 2013, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-are-taking-away-my-unemployment-for-my-own-good/675823 "2013-12-08T15:44:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 21
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2014, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-are-taking-away-my-unemployment-for-my-own-good/675823/401 "2014-01-01T18:35:15Z")
> [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](#): > > Now that I answered your question, here’s one for you: > > Do you like it when kids in this country go to bed hungry? Yes, but only because I feed on their tears. For the record, I am not against social safety nets. How I am against more extreme positions that seem to believe that the wealthy only exist to provide for the poor. > [@WillFarnaby](#): > > I attack the government because it undermines a civilized society by resorting to violence that is often arbitrary. No. You cannot have a civilized society without government. The best forms of governments are ones that rule through authority granted by the people it governs. Remove that and you will see truly arbitrary violence. ---
**Author:** ![zweisamkeit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zweisamkeit/32/4360_2.png) [@zweisamkeit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zweisamkeit)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2014, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-are-taking-away-my-unemployment-for-my-own-good/675823/402 "2014-01-01T19:13:11Z")
Man. **monavis** , I wish there were some way you could read your posts from an outsider’s perspective, because you truly don’t seem to see how many people have found things you’ve said to be appalling. To the thread at large: with no snark intended, attitudes like her’s honestly seem to result from a combination of [just world hypothesis](http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just-world_hypothesis) and a sort of Ideological Stockholm Syndrome (an ideology taking the place of an individual captor). I honestly want to look into this idea more WRT similar individuals as a group, because it could potentially explain a lot. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2014, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-are-taking-away-my-unemployment-for-my-own-good/675823/403 "2014-01-01T19:39:43Z")
> [@zweisamkeit](#): > > To the thread at large: with no snark intended, attitudes like her’s honestly seem to result from a combination of [just world hypothesis](http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just-world_hypothesis) As I have posted in several places in the last couple of days on various semi-related topics; Death: Humans need fantasy to _be_ human. To be the place where the falling angel meets the rising ape. Susan: With tooth fairies? Hogfathers? Death: Yes. As practice, you have to start out learning to believe the little lies. Susan: So we can believe the big ones? Death: Yes. Justice, Mercy, Duty. That sort of thing. Susan: They’re not the same at all. Death: You think so? Then take the universe and grind it down to the finest powder, and sieve it through the finest sieve, and then show me one atom of justice, one molecule of mercy. And yet, you try to act as if there is some ideal order in the world. As if there is some, some rightness in the universe, by which it may be judged. Susan: But people have got to believe that, or what’s the point? Death: You need to believe in things that aren’t true. How else can they become? ---
**Author:** ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2014, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-are-taking-away-my-unemployment-for-my-own-good/675823/404 "2014-01-01T20:27:49Z")
> [@msmith537](#): > > For the record, I am not against social safety nets. How I am against more extreme positions that seem to believe that the wealthy only exist to provide for the poor. Well, since the wealthy in this country are being taxed at a rate considerably lower than in the past fifty or so years and a lot lower than most industrialized nations, you will be happy to know that it will take a lot of things which won’t happen any time soon before your fear is anything other than unfounded. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2014, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-are-taking-away-my-unemployment-for-my-own-good/675823/405 "2014-01-01T22:44:06Z")
> [@msmith537](#): > > …that seem to believe that the wealthy only exist to provide for the poor… Well, OK, sure. But if that isn’t it, what _are_ they good for? ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2014, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-are-taking-away-my-unemployment-for-my-own-good/675823/406 "2014-01-01T23:11:46Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Well, OK, sure. But if that isn’t it, what _are_ they good for? Well, they’re well-fed and tender and juicy . . . ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2014, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-are-taking-away-my-unemployment-for-my-own-good/675823/407 "2014-01-01T23:21:12Z")
Well there has certainly never been a shortage of rich people who believe that the poor and the middle class owe them everything they have and should worship the ground they walk on. ---
**Author:** ![Fuji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a9a28c/32.png) [@Fuji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuji)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2014, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-are-taking-away-my-unemployment-for-my-own-good/675823/408 "2014-01-02T04:08:33Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > I consider you deeply challenged. Ireland lasted a 1000 hears without a government. :dubious: On behalf of my countrymen, may I say, “Please, do go on. Tell us all about this Hibernian libertarian millennium.” ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2014, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-are-taking-away-my-unemployment-for-my-own-good/675823/409 "2014-01-02T05:05:39Z")
It was Somalia with redheads. ---
**Author:** ![pravnik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pravnik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pravnik)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2014, 7:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-are-taking-away-my-unemployment-for-my-own-good/675823/410 "2014-01-02T07:45:41Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > It was Somalia with redheads. Blackhawk County Down? ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2014, 10:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-are-taking-away-my-unemployment-for-my-own-good/675823/411 "2014-01-02T10:57:59Z")
I don’t know why you’d expect **WillFarnaby** to have any greater grasp of history than he does other facts. ---
**Author:** ![monavis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@monavis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monavis)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2014, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-are-taking-away-my-unemployment-for-my-own-good/675823/412 "2014-01-02T13:09:32Z")
> [@monstro](#): > > So now you’re comparing yourself to soldiers fighting for their country? Really? > > Go lay down somewhere. Hanging up on that cross for so long has fried your brains. No, I am not comparing myself to the people who sacrifice for me or any of us. Just trying to remind you that it is the sacrifice they and their families make, so we all can complain,disagree etc. They do not complain about getting simple rations and they deserve far more than i. I can see you are angry, but that is in your control and your right, You have every right to disagree with me, I do not take you seriously. Because you don’t like what I think or write that is not a bother to me in any way. ---
**Author:** ![monavis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@monavis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monavis)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2014, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-are-taking-away-my-unemployment-for-my-own-good/675823/413 "2014-01-02T13:11:00Z")
> [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](#): > > No they don . You’re either a liar or an idiot. And a good chance you’re both. > > You have a lot of problems. Being a liar and/or an idiot the foremost amongst them. You have my greatest sympathies. ---
**Author:** ![monavis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@monavis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monavis)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2014, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-are-taking-away-my-unemployment-for-my-own-good/675823/414 "2014-01-02T13:19:23Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > Newsflash, honey: if you’re unable to feed yourself for days at a time it is NOT a “good life” and it is NOT “taking care” of yourself. You’re like an anorexic too thin and weak to stand up protesting she’s fine, she just needs to lose a few more pounds. > Oh, really - now you’re comparing being to stupid to ask for help to being in a war zone? Get over yourself already. > > Young men (and a few women) went to war in WWII to defend their country and, oh yes, get some meager pay. While soldiers do sometimes have to go without food they do not do so voluntarily, and the military would actively discourage soldiers going without food when food can be obtained. > > Like I said, get over yourself. You aren’t good or holy or better than anyone else because you don’t ask for help when you so obviously need it. That is your opinion and you have every right to it. I don’t recall ever stating that I was better than anyone or that if one disagrees with me they are nuts or stupid. I just stated that I lived and do live in better health than a lot of people I know who are much younger. You can live anyway you wish. I am not telling you or anyone how to live, just stating facts you can live your life and me mine. I am in my 80’s and in excellent health. I do not need help in my old age and do help a lot of people and they do not know who gave it to them call that what you wish. If that bother’s you then that is your problem ,not mine! ---
**Author:** ![monavis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@monavis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monavis)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2014, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-are-taking-away-my-unemployment-for-my-own-good/675823/415 "2014-01-02T13:22:23Z")
> [@Count\_Blucher](#): > > No, lots of people reading your opinions find them stupid. Not that that’s ever stopped you… > “The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.” -Thomas Jefferson > “Manure from barnyard animals can do wonders for your vegetable crops.” -vegetablegardener.com I thought this was a debate site,where anyone can express their opinions, I expect some or even many to disagree with me. And if you don’t agree that is your right and I take it as I see fit. ---
**Author:** ![monavis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@monavis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monavis)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2014, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-are-taking-away-my-unemployment-for-my-own-good/675823/416 "2014-01-02T13:24:52Z")
> [@zweisamkeit](#): > > Man. **monavis** , I wish there were some way you could read your posts from an outsider’s perspective, because you truly don’t seem to see how many people have found things you’ve said to be appalling. > > To the thread at large: with no snark intended, attitudes like her’s honestly seem to result from a combination of [just world hypothesis](http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just-world_hypothesis) and a sort of Ideological Stockholm Syndrome (an ideology taking the place of an individual captor). I honestly want to look into this idea more WRT similar individuals as a group, because it could potentially explain a lot. This is a debate site so I expect people to disagree with me, I am under the impression that a debate has 2 sides at least! ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2014, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-are-taking-away-my-unemployment-for-my-own-good/675823/417 "2014-01-02T14:44:20Z")
Five posts in a row? Learn to multi-quote, jackass. ---
**Author:** ![Fuji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a9a28c/32.png) [@Fuji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuji)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2014, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-are-taking-away-my-unemployment-for-my-own-good/675823/418 "2014-01-02T15:57:33Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > I don’t know why you’d expect **WillFarnaby** to have any greater grasp of history than he does other facts. I don’t, but I must admit I’m somewhat intrigued to imagine how he might mangle Irish history in an effort to prop up his sociopathy. ---
**Author:** ![pancakes3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ba9def/32.png) [@pancakes3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pancakes3)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2014, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-are-taking-away-my-unemployment-for-my-own-good/675823/419 "2014-01-02T16:41:28Z")
Is there a way to feel bad for the OP, disagree with him, and not be a baby-starving sadist? ---
**Author:** ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2014, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-are-taking-away-my-unemployment-for-my-own-good/675823/420 "2014-01-03T02:24:16Z")
> [@monavis](#): > > You have my greatest sympathies. What makes you think I care what a wretched person who is also a liar says about me? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-are-taking-away-my-unemployment-for-my-own-good/675823.md?page=20) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-are-taking-away-my-unemployment-for-my-own-good/675823.md?page=22)