# Republicans boo gay serviceman at Florida debate

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 23, 2011, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-boo-gay-serviceman-at-florida-debate/597391 "2011-09-23T21:34:57Z")\
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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2011, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-boo-gay-serviceman-at-florida-debate/597391/41 "2011-09-25T14:12:59Z")

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Somebody fucked him in the ear? Is that like, aural sex?

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**Author:** ![Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/brown_eyed_girl/32/3574_2.png) [@Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brown_Eyed_Girl)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2011, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-boo-gay-serviceman-at-florida-debate/597391/42 "2011-09-25T14:55:15Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> It’s so easy for me to get my antecedents twisted these days, such that a single-line post like that one is _just_ the other side of comprehensibility for me.
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> Could I trouble you to clarify your meaning, please?

I’ll try. As I understand it, Santorum feels that sexuality shouldn’t be an issue in the military and that gay servicemembers should not get special treatment. But reinstating DADT, in essence, \*is \*making an issue out of sexuality and setting homosexual servicemembers aside for special treatment, negative treatment though it may be.

If Santorum is true to the words he spoke in the debate, the logical thing to do is to promote a policy which says unequivocally that sexuality, like race or gender, has no bearing on the quality and validity of service each servicemember provides within the boundaries of decorum and lawful behavior that applies equally to every servicemember.

You don’t make sexuality a non-issue in the military by singling out specific individuals based solely upon their legal sexual preference and prohibiting their honorable service.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2011, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-boo-gay-serviceman-at-florida-debate/597391/43 "2011-09-25T15:52:27Z")

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Ah. Thanks, that does quite nicely.

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**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2011, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-boo-gay-serviceman-at-florida-debate/597391/44 "2011-09-27T02:12:00Z")

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So most conservative Republicans are in favor of capital punishment, disapprove of gays in the military, and are not in favor of government solutions in health care.

Who knew?

Next up: Jehovah’s Witness Knocks on Door of Homeowner Who Was Watching Television

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2011, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-boo-gay-serviceman-at-florida-debate/597391/45 "2011-09-27T02:32:02Z")

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> [@jtgain](#):
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> So most conservative Republicans are in favor of capital punishment, disapprove of gays in the military, and are not in favor of government solutions in health care.

Those are not the conclusions I would draw from the reactions by the debate audience.

1. Most conservative Republicans take savage glee in blood retribution.
2. Most conservative Republicans have a very fickle respect for American troops.
3. Most conservative Republicans think poor people deserve to die.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2011, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-boo-gay-serviceman-at-florida-debate/597391/46 "2011-09-27T04:52:13Z")

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> [@Ludovic](#):
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> For such a sombre field of moralists, they sure know how to boo gay.

Well, they _do_ love the night life.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2011, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-boo-gay-serviceman-at-florida-debate/597391/47 "2011-09-27T04:56:51Z")

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They mostly come at night. Mostly.

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**Author:** ![42fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/b487fb/32.png) [@42fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/42fish)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2011, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-boo-gay-serviceman-at-florida-debate/597391/48 "2011-09-27T13:59:10Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> They mostly come at night. Mostly.

Except when they come out in airport bathrooms.

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**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2011, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-boo-gay-serviceman-at-florida-debate/597391/49 "2011-09-27T14:29:58Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Somebody fucked him in the ear?

He’s just a modern guy.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Moto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de0a6/32.png) [@Mr.Moto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Moto)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2011, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-boo-gay-serviceman-at-florida-debate/597391/50 "2011-09-27T15:40:41Z")

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The soldier should have been thanked for his service (something I find maudlin at times but has become standard) and should not have been booed.

I am not going to become a Democrat over this incident - that would be nuts. But I am disappointed about it.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2011, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-boo-gay-serviceman-at-florida-debate/597391/51 "2011-09-27T15:42:57Z")

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I’m disappointed as well. Not shocked, mind you, but disappointed.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2011, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-boo-gay-serviceman-at-florida-debate/597391/52 "2011-09-27T16:40:33Z")

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I am surprised, simply because the debate was in my town and everyone here is pretty moderate. If it had been in Jacksonville I would have been totally unsurprised.

I also find the constant lionization of members of the armed forces maudlin (and insincere), but you don’t fucking boo them.

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2011, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-boo-gay-serviceman-at-florida-debate/597391/53 "2011-09-27T17:10:53Z")

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> [@Mr.Moto](#):
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> The soldier should have been thanked for his service (something I find maudlin at times but has become standard) and should not have been booed.
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> I am not going to become a Democrat over this incident - that would be nuts. But I am disappointed about it.

Imma teach them all a lesson by only voting for them a little bit this next time around!

-Joe

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2011, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-boo-gay-serviceman-at-florida-debate/597391/54 "2011-09-27T17:12:42Z")

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That’s a bit unfair; it was the _crowd_ cheering, not the candidates (though Santorum obviously didn’t have a problem with it at the time).

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2011, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-boo-gay-serviceman-at-florida-debate/597391/55 "2011-09-27T17:41:21Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> That’s a bit unfair; it was the _crowd_ cheering, not the candidates (though Santorum obviously didn’t have a problem with it at the time).

Oh that’s fucking ridiculous. These people are supposed to be their party’s leaders.

The reason they didn’t respond is what I said in the other thread: When you’re interviewing for a job, you don’t criticize the guys you’re trying to get a job with.

-Joe

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**Author:** ![furt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/439d5e/32.png) [@furt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furt)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2011, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-boo-gay-serviceman-at-florida-debate/597391/56 "2011-09-27T17:47:03Z")

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Is there a video or audio of the booing? This was all on TV, right?

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2011, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-boo-gay-serviceman-at-florida-debate/597391/57 "2011-09-27T17:55:11Z")

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> [@Merijeek](#):
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> Oh that’s fucking ridiculous. These people are supposed to be their party’s leaders.
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> The reason they didn’t respond is what I said in the other thread: When you’re interviewing for a job, you don’t criticize the guys you’re trying to get a job with.
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> -Joe

Who are supposed to be the leaders? The candidates? Sure, and they didn’t boo. Should they have told the crowd to go fuck themselves? Maybe, but that’s not what’s being pitted.

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**Author:** ![Yumblie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/76d3ee/32.png) [@Yumblie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yumblie)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2011, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-boo-gay-serviceman-at-florida-debate/597391/58 "2011-09-27T18:11:17Z")

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> [@Mr.Moto](#):
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> The soldier should have been thanked for his service (something I find maudlin at times but has become standard) and should not have been booed.
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> I am not going to become a Democrat over this incident - that would be nuts. But I am disappointed about it.

Not that you’d want to do this over one incident, but if you didn’t want to associate with the Republican party anymore, that doesn’t mean you _have_ to become a Democrat. You could, you know, not be a part of _either_ party. Such a thing is perfectly legal. Just sayin’.

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2011, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-boo-gay-serviceman-at-florida-debate/597391/59 "2011-09-27T18:22:48Z")

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> [@furt](#):
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> Is there a video or audio of the booing? This was all on TV, right?

Here it is:

https://www.youtube.com/embed/h8pcJ6Hh4Y0?feature=oembed&wmode=opaque

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2011, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-boo-gay-serviceman-at-florida-debate/597391/60 "2011-09-27T18:28:07Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> Who are supposed to be the leaders? The candidates? Sure, and they didn’t boo. Should they have told the crowd to go fuck themselves? Maybe, but that’s not what’s being pitted.

You’re right. The title of the thread should probably have included “and GOP leaders silently endorse it”. Then it’d actually have been 100% accurate.

-Joe

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