# Republicans can just go straight to fucking hell **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 14, 2018, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-can-just-go-straight-to-fucking-hell/822918 "2018-10-14T01:47:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2018, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-can-just-go-straight-to-fucking-hell/822918/241 "2018-10-19T16:37:49Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > No one in this thread is in favor of violence. **Scylla** has just failed to convince anyone that the GOP’s present political messaging (that liberals are spreading violence and hate) is anything aside from political messaging. I’m sure lots of conservatives are buying into this political message and propaganda like Breitbart puts out, but that’s all based on an agenda, not on facts. The facts show that there’s been no increase in left-wing violence, and the same trend for overall violence holds (aside from an uptick in white supremacist violence) for the last decade or two – right-wing extremism accounts for significantly more violence, today and in the recent past, than left wing extremism. Just to repeat, while there are no posters in this thread in favor of violence, we do have a president who is. He even says that when he heard that his fellow republican assaulted a reporter, he was concerned about it, but not due to the violence, but because that may cause his fellow right winger to lose the election. But, then the person who is the face of the republican party said that he knew that the violence may even help attract voters to his party. Anyone who says they are turned off by violence should be running as far from the party that explicitly endorses violence from the very top as fast as they can. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2018, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-can-just-go-straight-to-fucking-hell/822918/242 "2018-10-19T16:43:00Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > Just to repeat, while there are no posters in this thread in favor of violence, we do have a president who is. > > He even says that when he heard that his fellow republican assaulted a reporter, he was concerned about it, but not due to the violence, but because that may cause his fellow right winger to lose the election. But, then the person who is the face of the republican party said that he knew that the violence may even help attract voters to his party. > > Anyone who says they are turned off by violence should be running as far from the party that explicitly endorses violence from the very top as fast as they can. To flesh out the quote a little bit > [@DJT](#): > > “ **Any guy that can do a body slam, he’s my kind of guy,” Trump said at the event as supporters cheered him on.** “I had heard that he body-slammed a reporter … and he was way up, and I said, ‘Oh, this is terrible, he’s going to lose the election.’ Then I said, ‘I know Montana pretty well,’ and I said I think it might help him. And it did.” ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2018, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-can-just-go-straight-to-fucking-hell/822918/243 "2018-10-19T16:46:08Z")
If violence really is a voter’s biggest concern, then one would think they’d want to oppose the party that continues to support, defend, and even celebrate by far the most rhetorically violent political official in the country. By far – no Democrat even comes close to the violence and hatred Trump espouses. One party actually opposes that rhetorically violent politician. I would think that opposing violence would mean endorsing the party that’s in strong opposition to that rhetorically most violent official in the country. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2018, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-can-just-go-straight-to-fucking-hell/822918/244 "2018-10-19T16:46:23Z")
> [@Gary\_Kumquat](#): > > At the last election, 46.1% of the vote went to Republicans. > > Obviously that only covers people who are both a) of voting age and b) could be bother to vote, but let’s extrapolate for a second and say that approximately 40-45% of Americans would qualify as Republican in their beliefs, either now or in the future. > > Are you really arguing that you think 40% of your country are contemptible? I don’t know if you can justify your extrapolation there. Those who didn’t vote did not express their beliefs, they did not support the party. You are broadbrushing the republicans, and then asking if we agree with your broadbrushing. There are many out there who are conservative in their views, and they not contemptible. Even those who voted to put Trump into office can be forgiven, should they realize the error of their ways and seek redemption by voting D in the next election. Those who still actively support Trump and what he has turned the party into, yes, contemptible. If you wish to “extrapolate” that to all republicans, that is your choice, if you want to make the case that all republicans are in lockstep support of Trump. I don’t have quite as dim of a view of those who have historically been in the republican party as you do, however. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2018, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-can-just-go-straight-to-fucking-hell/822918/245 "2018-10-19T16:58:39Z")
> [@Scylla](#): > > Thank you for actually looking. As I mentioned I didn’t count 170 of the list, mostly for reasons like that. Because they were bullshitting you. And then, having reached this conclusion, you bring them to us as truth-tellers. We should listen to them respectfully and with an open mind. They didn’t pass mustard, so you didn’t include them. Good for you! Why were they there in the first place? These people you offer us as citation clearly don’t share your rigorous standards for truth. But given the bulk of stuff there, you must have dismissed those out of hand, tossed them aside. But the rest, you offer as\* veritas\*, evidence that no reasonable person can dismiss. More than that, as a _numerical_ truth. empirical, fact-based, because they said so. And not five minutes previous, you caught them lying to you! Il Douche stood up in front of a crowd of the adoring, and prodded them to approve a Congressgit that physically abused a reporter. I submit that the prominence of a man increases the responsibility of that man, that such crude and atavistic behavior in a “President” is _far_ worse than from some dumb-ass _schmuck_ in the street. And the crowd cheered, as commanded. Trump appeals to the worst in men, he presents violent and stupid as virile and manly. That is poisonous romantic drivel. Remember when Obama leaned over so that little black kid could touch his hair, see that it was just like his? Now, _that_ is a _man_! _Ecce homo_. ---
**Author:** ![tim314](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim314/32/3468_2.png) [@tim314](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tim314)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2018, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-can-just-go-straight-to-fucking-hell/822918/246 "2018-10-19T16:59:01Z")
> [@Scylla](#): > > I think race relations and tolerance went from pretty good to awful because of the left’s obsession with identity politics, intersectionality, and grievance. Yeah, race relations would be great if “the left” didn’t insist on complaining when the police murder Black folks. Damn whiney liberals. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2018, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-can-just-go-straight-to-fucking-hell/822918/247 "2018-10-19T17:07:35Z")
Thank you all for your time, I now return you to your regularly scheduled programming. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2018, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-can-just-go-straight-to-fucking-hell/822918/248 "2018-10-19T17:18:19Z")
That Congressgit that Il Douche praised, his name is Gianforte? Doesn’t that mean “John the Loud”? Ah, the poetry of coincidence! ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2018, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-can-just-go-straight-to-fucking-hell/822918/249 "2018-10-19T17:35:20Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > A cautionary tale, pointed out simply to lend more Scriptural underpinning to the notion of “going straight to Hell”. Lazarus went straight to the Pearly Gated Community, the rich guy…well, today’s pig, tomorrow’s bacon. And he’s still there. (if you are a Believer). That rich man is being tormented RIGHT NOW. 2000+ years of torture. Makes me want to believe, knowing that trump and Cheney will get the same one day. Forever is a long time to stand in boiling blood. Or have a stick rammed up your ass. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2018, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-can-just-go-straight-to-fucking-hell/822918/250 "2018-10-19T17:40:40Z")
> [@Scylla](#): > > Thank you all for your time, I now return you to your regularly scheduled programming. IOW, not a leg to stand on. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2018, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-can-just-go-straight-to-fucking-hell/822918/251 "2018-10-19T17:41:49Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > And he’s still there. (if you are a Believer). Well, maybe if I saw his face. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2018, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-can-just-go-straight-to-fucking-hell/822918/252 "2018-10-19T18:00:36Z")
[Majority of 2017 extremist murders in US were committed by right-wingers: Report](https://abcnews.go.com/US/majority-2017-extremist-murders-us-committed-wingers-report/story?id=52436886). "By contrast, the 20 far-right extremist homicides mark a dramatic uptick from the year prior, with 59 percent of this year’s total being attributed to that category as opposed to only 20 percent in 2016. " ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2018, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-can-just-go-straight-to-fucking-hell/822918/253 "2018-10-19T19:40:50Z")
> [@Hamlet](#): > > [Majority of 2017 extremist murders in US were committed by right-wingers: Report](https://abcnews.go.com/US/majority-2017-extremist-murders-us-committed-wingers-report/story?id=52436886). > > "By contrast, the 20 far-right extremist homicides mark a dramatic uptick from the year prior, with 59 percent of this year’s total being attributed to that category as opposed to only 20 percent in 2016. " In fairness, who could possibly have predicted that emboldening Nazis would result in extremist violence. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2018, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-can-just-go-straight-to-fucking-hell/822918/254 "2018-10-19T20:55:38Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > … They didn’t pass mustard … Good thing, too. That happened to me once. It was disgusting. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2018, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-can-just-go-straight-to-fucking-hell/822918/255 "2018-10-19T21:30:33Z")
The chairman of the Miami/Dade Republican Party took part in a Proud Boys attack on a Democratic Congressional candidate’s office. > **[Miami GOP Chairman just caught leading Proud Boys in attack on Democratic...](https://thesternfacts.com/miami-gop-chairman-just-caught-leading-proud-boys-in-attack-on-democratic-campaign-office-319216540f79)** > > Video from the hate group proves that they helped Miami’s top Republican attack a Democratic congressional campaign HQ. (Repost from **What’shisface** , that guy who keeps posting newsy bits.) ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2018, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-can-just-go-straight-to-fucking-hell/822918/256 "2018-10-19T21:39:20Z")
_Caveat empty:_ Its a blog, and no other news sites have it. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2018, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-can-just-go-straight-to-fucking-hell/822918/257 "2018-10-20T16:06:52Z")
_“[Violence solves everything](https://gritpost.com/proud-boys-gavin-mcinnes-more-violence/). We need more violence from the Trump people. Trump supporters: choke a motherfucker. Choke a bitch. Choke a tranny. Get your fingers around the windpipe.” Those are the words of Proud Boys founder … “If some guy with a slightly punk demeanor comes up to you and says ‘Hey are you Sal? Are you pro-Trump?’ Choke him. Trust your instincts, don’t listen to what he has to say, choke him.”_ Odd name, “Proud Boys”. Sounds like some sort of urban thing. Like that guy is tryina fuck with people’s heads. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-can-just-go-straight-to-fucking-hell/822918.md?page=12)