# Republicans: candidate who assaulted reporter is fine with us! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 25, 2017, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-candidate-who-assaulted-reporter-is-fine-with-us/787443 "2017-05-25T21:36:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 23
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-candidate-who-assaulted-reporter-is-fine-with-us/787443/441 "2017-05-29T15:59:05Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Can you show me any posts I’ve ever made in which I treat any assault claim differently? > > More generally, I can show you plenty of posts where I have defended Democrats against accusations of criminal activity. Can you show me posts in which you’ve defended Republicans? > > Which of us truly relies ONLY on party affiliation? Does this mean you would be perfectly willing to overlook an assault on a pregnant woman, because policy and politics matter far more than that one ( or two, in a certain light) victim? ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-candidate-who-assaulted-reporter-is-fine-with-us/787443/442 "2017-05-29T15:59:34Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Yes, and you cunningly discerned that a girl is not a guy, thus destroying my analogy. > > Because you don’t know what an analogy is. > > Let me explain. Maybe someday you’ll have a niece or nephew taking the SATs. Show them this post. _Do not attempt to explain analogies yourself._ You’ll doom the poor kid to a lifetime of fast-food work, or possibly even a job as staff editor for _Mother Jones_. > > An analogy is not a one-to-one match of all aspects of the items being compared. For example, the SAT may have a question that looks like this: > > PILOT:AIRPLANE :: ? :CAR > > (A) WING > (B) WHEEL > (C) DRIVER > (D) Cars aren’t airplanes and this question is as full of shit as a Christmas goose > > Now, be calm, because I know that to your brain, the obvious answer is (D). > > But the correct answer is actually (C), “DRIVER.” > > Puzzling, huh? > > The answer is (C) because the question is not saying that an airplane is a car. Instead, it’s saying there is some kind of relationship between “Pilot,” and “Airplane.” Then it asks what similar relationship exists between a “Car,” and the other choices. A Pilot directs the operation of an airplane from place to place and a “Driver,” does the same thing with a car. > > I know you don’t follow, but just show this post to your niece or nephew. Still arguing with yourself about the definition of “analogy” huh? The rest of us don’t give a shit, least of all, me. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-candidate-who-assaulted-reporter-is-fine-with-us/787443/443 "2017-05-29T16:06:29Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > Are you implying now that reporters and Nazis are the same? One is a guy doing his job (reporting). A nonviolent type who had the “nerve” to ask a question. > > The other is a fucking Nazi who’d gladly kill “the Other” if he only had the balls to do it. Yeah, the Nazis. Started a world war (WW2 if you forgot), killed the Jews Gypsies Gays and damn near anyone else they could. Would do it again, if they could. > > WTF?? > > But never mind, it’s just more of your “both sides” BULLSHIT. Well, Bricker is really branding himself as a fool. As pointed before his analogies would work if they were equivalent, as pointed before he was shown that his examples at equating what took place with Gianforte suck, so his yelling post only succeeded at helping me picture Bricker like this from now on: > **[Old Man Yells at Cloud | Old Man Yells at Cloud](https://knowyourmeme.com/photos/1045815-old-man-yells-at-cloud)** > > See more 'Old Man Yells at Cloud' images on Know Your Meme! ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-candidate-who-assaulted-reporter-is-fine-with-us/787443/444 "2017-05-29T16:13:57Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > The rest of us don’t give a shit, least of all, me. It’s absolutely obvious you don’t care what an analogy is. But this is a good time to comment on what freaking herd animals you guys are. Look how often you need to refer to “us.” “The rest of us think…” “The rest of us feel…” “I’m confident I’m safe, because look at the rest of us, all here with me, supporting me!” Which is, of course, why you congregate in the SDMB Liberal Safe Space Echo Bubble. Contrary opinions kept to a minimum, and if they intrude, why, you have only to join hands with your brethern. “The rest of us don’t like your nonsense!” For a while I wondered if you had sentient tapeworms and were sharing their agreement with your politics. No surprise that a parasite would be liberal, of course. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-candidate-who-assaulted-reporter-is-fine-with-us/787443/445 "2017-05-29T16:16:26Z")
You consider having a minority opinion to be evidence that your opinion is correct? Interesting. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-candidate-who-assaulted-reporter-is-fine-with-us/787443/446 "2017-05-29T16:17:22Z")
> [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > …who the fuck are you? …octopus… . ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-candidate-who-assaulted-reporter-is-fine-with-us/787443/447 "2017-05-29T16:18:59Z")
In applying for a job in which one takes an oath to… here, let me quote: “… do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion, and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.” Applying for a job which requires one to support and defend the Constitution, the Rep decided to violate said Constitution… and here we have people arguing that it is OK for a man running for the House to go ahead, violate the oath you’re about to take… because, why, again? I mean, what is the reasoning here, really? The Constitution is not the law of the land? You’re only required to support it once you take an oath, but not before? It’s OK to elect people who openly violate the Constitution because of “procedure” and “rules of order” or other such ethos-lacking arguments? ---
**Author:** ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-candidate-who-assaulted-reporter-is-fine-with-us/787443/448 "2017-05-29T16:21:40Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > I am starting to believe the only thing that matters is party affiliation. Notwithstanding any spurious and fallacious protestations to the contrary. It’s funny that he accused someone else in this thread of that. I found that [fascinating](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection). ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-candidate-who-assaulted-reporter-is-fine-with-us/787443/449 "2017-05-29T16:23:09Z")
> [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](#): > > It’s funny that he accused someone else in this thread of that. I found that [fascinating](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection). OK, I’m accused of giving the Republican a pass on violence. Show me the post where I condemned the Democrat. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-candidate-who-assaulted-reporter-is-fine-with-us/787443/450 "2017-05-29T16:23:29Z")
Scrupulous consistency is not the hallmark of legitimate opinion. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-candidate-who-assaulted-reporter-is-fine-with-us/787443/451 "2017-05-29T16:27:11Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Applying for a job which requires one to support and defend the Constitution, the Rep decided to violate said Constitution… and here we have people arguing that it is OK for a man running for the House to go ahead, violate the oath you’re about to take… because, why, again? First: you cannot violate an oath you haven’t taken. Second: the Constitution does not prohibit a private citizen, or even a candidate, or even a sitting Congressman, from punching someone. So even if he COULD time-travel in order to violate the path he hasn’t taken, this act doesn’t violate it. Third: I predict no acknowledgement of error. Because of your tapeworm. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-candidate-who-assaulted-reporter-is-fine-with-us/787443/452 "2017-05-29T16:29:03Z")
🙂 > [@](#): > > It’s OK to elect people who openly violate the Constitution because of “procedure” and “rules of order” or other such ethos-lacking arguments? ---
**Author:** ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-candidate-who-assaulted-reporter-is-fine-with-us/787443/453 "2017-05-29T16:29:11Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > OK, I’m accused of giving the Republican a pass on violence. > > Show me the post where I condemned the Democrat. What I was pointing out was the words “I am starting to believe the only thing that matters is party affiliation.” Which is what you accused another poster of here: > [@Bricker](#): > > I don’t think you’re fine. > > But I think that you’re “Meh, let the justice system handle it. He did wrong.” > > And when it’s a Republican, I think you’re closer to, “Off with his head!” You know, the one where you claimed to know more than the poster did about him or herself? That post. The one I pointed out was Speculation and you claimed was “Expert Opinion.” That thing. Yeah, projection. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-candidate-who-assaulted-reporter-is-fine-with-us/787443/454 "2017-05-29T16:39:11Z")
> [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](#): > > What I was pointing out was the words “I am starting to believe the only thing that matters is party affiliation.” > > Which is what you accused another poster of here: > > You know, the one where you claimed to know more than the poster did about him or herself? That post. The one I pointed out was Speculation and you claimed was “Expert Opinion.” > > That thing. Yeah, projection. My rebuttal is: I can show posts in which I have defended Democrats, and inveighed against Republicans. This rebuts the claim that “the only thing that matters is party affiliation” as the claim applies to me. And I pointed out that others here CANNOT show they defended Republicans and inveighed against Democrats. This shows that “the only thing that matters is party affiliation” is tenable as applied to those others. THAT, in turn, rebuts the claim that I am projecting. Seriously, if that’s ever possible, you must know this is true. You know I’ve spoken up strongly when the crap email server stuff was leveled against Hillary Clinton. You know I spent post after post pointing out the wrongness in calling Ted Kennedy a “murderer.” You know I spoke out in favor of John Kerry’s status as a war hero. You must look at those stands, and then look at your own posting history, and realize that you’ve never expended similar work in favor of a Republican. In your private thoughts, how do you reconcile that with attacks like the one you’re making? ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-candidate-who-assaulted-reporter-is-fine-with-us/787443/455 "2017-05-29T16:40:24Z")
All this effort to support a violent Congressman who hates the First Amendment! \<3 Bricker \<3 ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-candidate-who-assaulted-reporter-is-fine-with-us/787443/456 "2017-05-29T16:47:35Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > And I pointed out that others here CANNOT show they defended Republicans and inveighed against Democrats. This shows that “the only thing that matters is party affiliation” is tenable as applied to those others. > > THAT, in turn, rebuts the claim that I am projecting. Well you are even more foolish, defending Republicans is not the subject of the thread; dealing with Gianforte is. Of course you have to reach for the bottom of the barrel of stupid equalities to make it not be about Gianforte. It is only you who are demanding that defense of a sorry rhetorical point of yours. And clearly with the intention to continue to deflect on what Gianforte did. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-candidate-who-assaulted-reporter-is-fine-with-us/787443/457 "2017-05-29T16:49:03Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > All this effort to support a violent Congressman who hates the First Amendment! \<3 Bricker \<3 The First Amendment is not violated when a private person, or even a candidate, or even a Congressman punches a reporter. I’m not defending the Congressman-elect. I’m defending the truth against stupid ideas like, “Candidates who punch reporters openly violate the oath they are going to take in the future to the Constitution.” ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-candidate-who-assaulted-reporter-is-fine-with-us/787443/458 "2017-05-29T16:50:25Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > Well you are even more foolish, defending Republicans is not the subject of the thread; dealing with Gianforte is. Of course you have to reach for the bottom of the barrel of stupid equalities to make it not be about Gianforte. > > It is only you who are demanding that defense of a sorry rhetorical point of yours. And clearly with the intention to continue to deflect on what Gianforte did. Yeah, sorry. I know what the subject of the thread is: Climate change! ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-candidate-who-assaulted-reporter-is-fine-with-us/787443/459 "2017-05-29T16:54:06Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Yeah, sorry. I know what the subject of the thread is: > > Climate change! It is a factor, you dummy. 🙂 And the record shows that after I posted a cite that did not trigger your “killing the messenger” stupid move it is clear that you can not counter that Gianforte will also be a disaster for the environment where you also have to live. You ended up just running away yelling at clouds. ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-candidate-who-assaulted-reporter-is-fine-with-us/787443/460 "2017-05-29T16:55:55Z")
I think Bricker had made the point that Gianforte’s policy positions and politics are the deciding factor in whether he would vote for him, yes? One assault does not disqualify him from representing him. This hold true if the victim were a reporter, a woman, a Nazi… I suppose since my question about a pregnant woman was soundly ignored, that too would not disqualify in Bricker’ opinion from representing him. I wonder if any individual’s assault could disqualify Gianforte from office- as long as it was merely one assault, that is. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-candidate-who-assaulted-reporter-is-fine-with-us/787443.md?page=22) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-candidate-who-assaulted-reporter-is-fine-with-us/787443.md?page=24)