# Republicans: candidate who assaulted reporter is fine with us! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 25, 2017, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-candidate-who-assaulted-reporter-is-fine-with-us/787443 "2017-05-25T21:36:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 24
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-candidate-who-assaulted-reporter-is-fine-with-us/787443/461 "2017-05-29T17:00:19Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > > [@Bricker](#): > > > > Yeah, sorry. I know what the subject of the thread is: > > > > Climate change! > > It is a factor, you dummy. 🙂 Defense rests. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-candidate-who-assaulted-reporter-is-fine-with-us/787443/462 "2017-05-29T17:02:33Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Defense rests. In pieces. Let the record show that you had to cut from my post **one** demonstrated embarrassment that you are only carrying with pride on this thread. You are also doubling down on the foolish by avoiding dealing with the fact that you are indeed not caring about the real damage Gianforte and the Republican party is and will do to the environment we all have to work and live. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-candidate-who-assaulted-reporter-is-fine-with-us/787443/463 "2017-05-29T17:04:43Z")
> [@raventhief](#): > > I think Bricker had made the point that Gianforte’s policy positions and politics are the deciding factor in whether he would vote for him, yes? One assault does not disqualify him from representing him. This hold true if the victim were a reporter, a woman, a Nazi… I suppose since my question about a pregnant woman was soundly ignored, that too would not disqualify in Bricker’ opinion from representing him. I wonder if any individual’s assault could disqualify Gianforte from office- as long as it was merely one assault, that is. If I ignore a post, it might be because your fellow posters, and their tapeworms, were clamoring for attention. If the victim were an obviously pregnant woman, it would change my response. That would suggest to me that he was willing to risk hurting a child. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-candidate-who-assaulted-reporter-is-fine-with-us/787443/464 "2017-05-29T17:06:37Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > In pieces. > > Let the record show that you had to cut from my post **one** demonstrated embarrassment that you are only carrying with pride on this thread. Gianforte will be a disaster for the environment. That’s why we should make as much hay over this assault thing as possible. Right? Yes, the defense rests. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-candidate-who-assaulted-reporter-is-fine-with-us/787443/465 "2017-05-29T17:09:13Z")
“Tapeworms”. That’s so precious, just bless your heart, Bricker. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-candidate-who-assaulted-reporter-is-fine-with-us/787443/466 "2017-05-29T17:11:15Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Gianforte will be a disaster for the environment. That’s why we should make as much hay over this assault thing as possible. Right? > > Yes, the defense rests. Well, it’s \*\*not my problem if you only want to show to others that you are even an ignorant about what a [factor](http://www.dictionary.com/browse/factor) is. \*\* The reason to take on Gianforte, even after he was elected, has many reasons/factors why it is so. His assault was important for the OP, but during the conversation I learned about other reasons why Gianforte is **also** bad news. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-candidate-who-assaulted-reporter-is-fine-with-us/787443/467 "2017-05-29T17:15:38Z")
Its really much more simple than all this. When liberals and lefties are wrong, they are simply wrong. When they are right, they are hypocrites. This standard has broken down of late, when Republicans are not simply wrong, but God Awmighty Totally Fuck All Wrong. This is the result of a breakdown in civility and bi-partisan comity, which is largely a result of liberal hypocrisy, and to a lesser degree, an understandable result of Republican reaction to liberal hypocrisy. ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-candidate-who-assaulted-reporter-is-fine-with-us/787443/468 "2017-05-29T17:18:15Z")
Thank you for responding, Bricker. I suspected that in terms of some victims, your calculations may change. But that is why - for me- it is ridiculous to try and draw equivalencies between a Nazi being punched and a reporter. A reporter is a representative of the free press, and that is something our country values. Nazis- not so much. I can’t work up the same amount of outrage for a Nazi being punched as a reporter, or a child, or a pregnant woman. By discounting the victim entirely, your analogies fail. Eta- just as a pregnant victim suggests he would be willing to harm a child, a reporter victim suggests he is willing to attack the first amendment. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-candidate-who-assaulted-reporter-is-fine-with-us/787443/469 "2017-05-29T17:25:51Z")
I only skimmed this thread because I’ve been busy this morning. Has Bricker accepted that the Franken thing isn’t the same as Macho Man Montana Savage hurling the people’s elbow at a reporter? ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-candidate-who-assaulted-reporter-is-fine-with-us/787443/470 "2017-05-29T17:46:00Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > I only skimmed this thread because I’ve been busy this morning. Has Bricker accepted that the Franken thing isn’t the same as Macho Man Montana Savage hurling the people’s elbow at a reporter? Based on his reply on post #350 and [his post impersonating an old man yelling at a cloud](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20239295&postcount=426) I think that he is still using that sucky equivalence. I also have to remind Bricker (he really needs to take his memory pills) that I told him already that I did start against Gianforte because he used violence against the press, his stupid counter was that the left (including me) hated Gianforte because he was a creationist. So, so much for his dumb accusation here that I was taking his climate change denial as the reason for going against Gianforte by pumping up the assault as a proxy for his climate change denialism. That Gianforte’s anti science will affect his votes in congress is just a very important addition to the negatives of Gianforte, and since we already established that Bricker’s equivalences regarding the assault suck, Gianforte’s assault still remains a very important reason why he should never had been elected. That he was does not take away the reality that now that he has been sworn in what the “eternal” vigilance thing that Jefferson talked about comes into play. In the form of making sure that he does follow the law and does not use his office to stall or prevent justice in this case. And the issue now is that there are many examples now of unethical moves made by Trump and followers regarding their dealings with ongoing cases. The current Republican administration and several Republicans in congress already showed that they have no problems when attempting to throw wrenches at investigations or attempting to obstruct justice. ---
**Author:** ![DoggyDunnit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5fc32e/32.png) [@DoggyDunnit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DoggyDunnit)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-candidate-who-assaulted-reporter-is-fine-with-us/787443/471 "2017-05-29T17:56:48Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Did you read this post of mine? Yup, I did, and my question still stands. Many people who call themselves “pro-life” do exactly what you did: try to arbitrarily limit the definition to being anti-abortion, in order to take the spotlight off the fact that they stop caring about “life” after the human has exited the womb. They’re fine with less fortunate children and adults dying for lack of healthcare, sprawl that forces old ladies to have to cross highly hazardous pseudo-freeways to get to the bus stop, etc. So, are you gonna answer the question re: health care? Are you truly “pro-life” – as in you care about life from conception until the natural end of a fully lived life – or, are you simply anti-abortion/“pro-birth”? ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-candidate-who-assaulted-reporter-is-fine-with-us/787443/472 "2017-05-29T18:03:24Z")
> [@raventhief](#): > > Eta- just as a pregnant victim suggests he would be willing to harm a child, a reporter victim suggests he is willing to attack the first amendment. No. That’s not an inference I accept. Just how would he attack the First Amendment? Judo? An attack on a reporter arose because he was irritated with the reporters’ repetition of the same question. That’s not justification, but it’s also not a First Amendment violation. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-candidate-who-assaulted-reporter-is-fine-with-us/787443/473 "2017-05-29T18:04:29Z")
> [@DoggyDunnit](#): > > Yup, I did, and my question still stands. Many people who call themselves “pro-life” do exactly what you did: try to arbitrarily limit the definition to being anti-abortion, in order to take the spotlight off the fact that they stop caring about “life” after the human has exited the womb. They’re fine with less fortunate children and adults dying for lack of healthcare, sprawl that forces old ladies to have to cross highly hazardous pseudo-freeways to get to the bus stop, etc. > > So, are you gonna answer the question re: health care? Are you truly “pro-life” – as in you care about life from conception until the natural end of a fully lived life – or, are you simply anti-abortion/“pro-birth”? I don’t agree you get to define “pro-life.” I’m using the term as it’s used in American politics. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-candidate-who-assaulted-reporter-is-fine-with-us/787443/474 "2017-05-29T18:05:29Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > Gianforte’s assault still remains a very important reason why he should never had been elected. Yeah, that early voting thing sucks. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-candidate-who-assaulted-reporter-is-fine-with-us/787443/475 "2017-05-29T18:07:49Z")
> [@DoggyDunnit](#): > > Yup, I did, and my question still stands. Many people who call themselves “pro-life” do exactly what you did: try to arbitrarily limit the definition to being anti-abortion, in order to take the spotlight off the fact that they stop caring about “life” after the human has exited the womb. They’re fine with less fortunate children and adults dying for lack of healthcare, sprawl that forces old ladies to have to cross highly hazardous pseudo-freeways to get to the bus stop, etc. > > So, are you gonna answer the question re: health care? Are you truly “pro-life” – as in you care about life from conception until the natural end of a fully lived life – or, are you simply anti-abortion/“pro-birth”? When we were kids, and someone would say something like “I love mashed potatoes”, we’d yell out: “You can’t love it; it’s not a person”. You sound just like that. Alternatively, we can count on your support for Sec DeVoss’s schools choice plan, right? What… you’re _ **not** _ pro-choice??? ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-candidate-who-assaulted-reporter-is-fine-with-us/787443/476 "2017-05-29T18:07:54Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > No. That’s not an inference I accept. > > Just how would he attack the First Amendment? Judo? > > An attack on a reporter arose because he was irritated with the reporters’ repetition of the same question. That’s not justification, but it’s also not a First Amendment violation. He is willing to use violence in order to intimidate and silence members of the press who ask questions he doesn’t want to answer. That may not imply an assault on the press to you , but my mileage differs. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-candidate-who-assaulted-reporter-is-fine-with-us/787443/477 "2017-05-29T18:12:29Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Yeah, that early voting thing sucks. Besides realizing that the rest of my post stands as you do not want to touch it, I think that that early voting is a risk I’m willing to continue having in the future. It does not take away the fact that Republicans then supported the degradation of our education system and the environment where we live. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-candidate-who-assaulted-reporter-is-fine-with-us/787443/478 "2017-05-29T18:18:33Z")
> [@raventhief](#): > > He is willing to use violence in order to intimidate and silence members of the press who ask questions he doesn’t want to answer. That may not imply an assault on the press to you , but my mileage differs. If he did it to multiple members of the press, your case would be stronger. Maybe he hates only Jacobs. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-candidate-who-assaulted-reporter-is-fine-with-us/787443/479 "2017-05-29T18:19:48Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > Besides realizing that the rest of my post stands as you do not want to touch it, I think that that early voting is a risk I’m willing to continue having in the future. > > It does not take away the fact that Republicans then supported the degradation of our education system and the environment where we live. Which is why you hate Gianforte. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-candidate-who-assaulted-reporter-is-fine-with-us/787443/480 "2017-05-29T18:25:49Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Which is why you hate Gianforte. And thank you for giving us more evidence that you need your memory pills, that is not the reason why I came to the thread, going forward it is one factor **added** to the dislike I have of him for attacking the press. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-candidate-who-assaulted-reporter-is-fine-with-us/787443.md?page=23) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-candidate-who-assaulted-reporter-is-fine-with-us/787443.md?page=25)