# Republicans Drown Santa Claus

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 22, 2006, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-drown-santa-claus/373735 "2006-09-22T16:48:36Z")\
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**Author:** ![DanBlather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f4b2a3/32.png) [@DanBlather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DanBlather)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2006, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-drown-santa-claus/373735/1 "2006-09-22T16:48:36Z")

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We need a Democrat Karl Rove to tell the kiddies that [Republicans want to drown Santa Claus](http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060920/sc_afp/climatewarmingarctic_060920111816) because of their refusal to address global warming.

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**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2006, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-drown-santa-claus/373735/2 "2006-09-22T16:53:39Z")

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I thought it would be some right wing “Christian” Santa=a tool of the devil type thing.

Crap-it’s more serious than that.

Everyone know how to swim?

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2006, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-drown-santa-claus/373735/3 "2006-09-22T17:05:32Z")

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Kids don’t vote.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2006, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-drown-santa-claus/373735/4 "2006-09-22T17:08:51Z")

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That is just \*soooo \*unfair! The Pubbies are entirely open to any policy on global warning that doesn’t involve unfair restrictions on business! Outside of that, they are wide open. It would be un-American to restrict the profits of red-blooded and patriotic Americans who display thier civic virtue by astute investment in sensible politicians. Is it thier fault that those politicians are invariably Republicans?

“The business of America is business” - Cal Coolidge

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**Author:** ![The\_Weird\_One](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7bcc69/32.png) [@The\_Weird\_One](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Weird_One)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2006, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-drown-santa-claus/373735/5 "2006-09-22T17:12:23Z")

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The Republican Party certainly needs to start taking action on environmental issues, but frankly, I’m even more frustrated by the many liberals I know who do nothing more than pay impassioned lip service to environmental causes. As I once heard someone on NPR say (paraphrasing), “Everyone agrees that the environment should be protected, but nobody’s willing to make the necessary changes in their own lives.”

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2006, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-drown-santa-claus/373735/6 "2006-09-22T17:14:14Z")

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See, thing is, this all involves making laws, and stuff. And the people who have that power in thier grasp aren’t liberals. Hope this doesn’t come as a shock to you.

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**Author:** ![DanBlather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f4b2a3/32.png) [@DanBlather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DanBlather)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2006, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-drown-santa-claus/373735/7 "2006-09-22T17:17:12Z")

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[QUOTE=The Weird One]  
The Republican Party certainly needs to start taking action on environmental issues, but frankly, I’m even more frustrated by the many liberals I know who do nothing more than pay impassioned lip service to environmental causes. As I once heard someone on NPR say (paraphrasing), “Everyone agrees that the environment should be protected, but nobody’s willing to make the necessary changes in their own lives.”  
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I am offended. I have a big “Stop Global Warming” sticker on the back of my Hummer.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2006, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-drown-santa-claus/373735/8 "2006-09-22T17:24:08Z")

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I could put one on my bicycle, I suppose, but I’ve have to run over a Republican to get close enough for him to read it. Hmmmmm.

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**Author:** ![5que](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/5/3bc359/32.png) [@5que](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/5que)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2006, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-drown-santa-claus/373735/9 "2006-09-22T18:32:35Z")

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[QUOTE=elucidator]  
I could put one on my bicycle, I suppose, but I’ve have to run over a Republican to get close enough for him to read it. Hmmmmm.  
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Win-Win!

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2006, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-drown-santa-claus/373735/10 "2006-09-22T18:55:44Z")

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[QUOTE=The Weird One]  
The Republican Party certainly needs to start taking action on environmental issues, but frankly, I’m even more frustrated by the many liberals I know who do nothing more than pay impassioned lip service to environmental causes. As I once heard someone on NPR say (paraphrasing), “Everyone agrees that the environment should be protected, but nobody’s willing to make the necessary changes in their own lives.”  
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Bullshit, there are plenty of Greens that try to do what they can.  
I drive a small Ford Focus Wagon, not an SUV or Sports Car. My next car will be a Hybrid. I hope that it will be a Plug-in.  
I have Solar Panels on my house. 6700 watts worth.  
I use Compact Fluorescent lighting in 85% of my lighting.  
I recycle and I stopped buying papers.  
I mainly buy used books as a cheap method of Re-use.  
I compost all of my grass clipping and Leaves.  
I am not even a liberal, just a Green Republican.  
I support many environmental groups and all park initiatives.  
I voted Green Party in 2000.

If you care, join a local environmental group, we are not all pot-smoking hippies and refugees from the 60s. {Not that there is anything wrong with that}

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**Author:** ![betenoir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/258eb7/32.png) [@betenoir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/betenoir)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2006, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-drown-santa-claus/373735/11 "2006-09-22T19:03:02Z")

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[QUOTE=Captain Amazing]  
Kids don’t vote.  
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They will. Although I’ll grant you that American politicians have a hard time looking beyond the next election.

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**Author:** ![The\_Weird\_One](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7bcc69/32.png) [@The\_Weird\_One](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Weird_One)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2006, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-drown-santa-claus/373735/12 "2006-09-22T19:26:46Z")

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[QUOTE=What Exit?]  
Bullshit, there are plenty of Greens that try to do what they can.  
I drive a small Ford Focus Wagon, not an SUV or Sports Car. My next car will be a Hybrid. I hope that it will be a Plug-in.  
I have Solar Panels on my house. 6700 watts worth.  
I use Compact Fluorescent lighting in 85% of my lighting.  
I recycle and I stopped buying papers.  
I mainly buy used books as a cheap method of Re-use.  
I compost all of my grass clipping and Leaves.  
I am not even a liberal, just a Green Republican.  
I support many environmental groups and all park initiatives.  
I voted Green Party in 2000.

If you care, join a local environmental group, we are not all pot-smoking hippies and refugees from the 60s. {Not that there is anything wrong with that}  
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I applaud you, sir. Obviously, that quote was hyperbole, and there _are_ people who act on their convictions, but I get frustrated with my friends and family who are constantly railing against Hummers, Republicans, and other environmental Bad Guys while often turning a blind eye to things _they_ could be doing to limit waste. (Like when a good friend of mine decided to buy a new car, briefly considered a hybrid, but went for the one with all the bells and whistles instead. Oo, shiny!) My roommates have gotten better in the last year, though.

I like that quote because when I heard it a few years ago, I realized that I was one of those self-righteous hypocrites. Hearing it made me start to examine my own life and the changes I could make to lessen my environmental impact.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2006, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-drown-santa-claus/373735/13 "2006-09-22T19:36:56Z")

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[QUOTE=The Weird One]  
I applaud you, sir. Obviously, that quote was hyperbole, and there _are_ people who act on their convictions, but I get frustrated with my friends and family who are constantly railing against Hummers, Republicans, and other environmental Bad Guys while often turning a blind eye to things _they_ could be doing to limit waste. (Like when a good friend of mine decided to buy a new car, briefly considered a hybrid, but went for the one with all the bells and whistles instead. Oo, shiny!) My roommates have gotten better in the last year, though.

I like that quote because when I heard it a few years ago, I realized that I was one of those self-righteous hypocrites. Hearing it made me start to examine my own life and the changes I could make to lessen my environmental impact.  
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Umm, yeah, thank you, sorry about that, one of my touchy areas. Combo of Republican = Evil and Greens = Crazy. I am overly sensitive.

Jim

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**Author:** ![Renob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8c91f0/32.png) [@Renob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Renob)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2006, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-drown-santa-claus/373735/14 "2006-09-22T19:39:49Z")

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Yeah, the Democrats have done so much on this issue. For example, Bill Clinton never even submitted the Kyoto Treaty to the Senate for ratification. Perhaps this has to do with the fact that the Senate voted unanimously for an amendment by Robert Byrd (a Democrat) to essentially reject the treaty’s provisions.

Blame the GOP if you wish, but Democrats haven’t lifted a finger to do anything about global warming outside of see _An Inconvenient Truth_.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2006, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-drown-santa-claus/373735/15 "2006-09-22T19:53:06Z")

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Have you?

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**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2006, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-drown-santa-claus/373735/16 "2006-09-22T20:02:35Z")

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[QUOTE=The Weird One]  
“Everyone agrees that the environment should be protected, but nobody’s willing to make the necessary changes in their own lives.”  
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“Nothing’s being done” Jeff Beck anyone? Guitar shop? Terry Bozzio? Anyone? I’m tired of trying to google the lyrics.

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**Author:** ![The\_Weird\_One](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7bcc69/32.png) [@The\_Weird\_One](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Weird_One)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2006, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-drown-santa-claus/373735/17 "2006-09-22T20:04:29Z")

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[QUOTE=What Exit?]  
Umm, yeah, thank you, sorry about that, one of my touchy areas. Combo of Republican = Evil and Greens = Crazy. I am overly sensitive.

Jim  
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No worries. Dems who think blaming Republicans relieves them of environmental responsiblity is one of my touchy areas. (Is this really the appropriate forum to be discussing our touchy areas?)

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2006, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-drown-santa-claus/373735/18 "2006-09-22T20:06:00Z")

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“What You Gonna Do About Me” _Quicksilver Messenger Service_, 1967

That’s the trouble with being ahead of your time, by the time they catch up, they’ve forgotten you.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2006, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-drown-santa-claus/373735/19 "2006-09-22T20:07:46Z")

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[QUOTE=The Weird One]  
… Dems who think blaming Republicans relieves them of environmental responsiblity is one of my touchy areas…  
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Name one. Must have several names on the very tip of your forked tongue. Seeing as how this is one of your touchy areas, and all.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2006, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-drown-santa-claus/373735/20 "2006-09-22T20:11:19Z")

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[QUOTE=elucidator]  
Name one. Must have several names on the very tip of your forked tongue. Seeing as how this is one of your touchy areas, and all.  
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I got the impression \*\*The Weird One \*\* was talking about roommates and other young Democrats that spout the platitudes but do not attempt to live up to them. Not actual elected politicians.

Jim I thought I was overly sensitive 😉

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