# Republicans Drown Santa Claus

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-drown-santa-claus/373735>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 22, 2006, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-drown-santa-claus/373735 "2006-09-22T16:48:36Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 10\
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**Author:** ![Caridwen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c89c15/32.png) [@Caridwen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Caridwen)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2006, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-drown-santa-claus/373735/41 "2006-09-23T23:30:14Z")

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Of course. You do know what I was asking though, right? It was a pretty simple question.

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**Author:** ![Plynck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Plynck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plynck)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2006, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-drown-santa-claus/373735/42 "2006-09-23T23:34:58Z")

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For anyone with broadband and an hour to spare, [this](http://www.npr.org/programs/npc/2003/031121rkennedy.html) is a fairly damning indictment of Bush’s environmental record, as iterated by Robert Kennedy Jr. It is three years old, and I will gladly withdraw this if someone can demonstrate that Bush’s policies have got better rather than worse since he made that speech.

I’ve posted this link before, and I will also post my same comment and criticism to his speech: RK is articulate for the majority of the speech, and then falls down in the end when he defends his opposition to the Cape Cod Wind Farm. Nevertheless, it is worth a listen.

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**Author:** ![Caridwen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c89c15/32.png) [@Caridwen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Caridwen)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2006, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-drown-santa-claus/373735/43 "2006-09-23T23:42:29Z")

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> The administration claims it wasn’t telling scientists what to say about climate change; e-mails obtained by Salon prove otherwise.

[http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2006/09/19/noaa/index.html](http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2006/09/19/noaa/index.html)

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**Author:** ![Carol\_Stream](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c2a13f/32.png) [@Carol\_Stream](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carol_Stream)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2006, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-drown-santa-claus/373735/44 "2006-09-23T23:43:13Z")

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[QUOTE=Caridwen]  
Of course. You do know what I was asking though, right? It was a pretty simple question.  
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No, can you be more clear? Because your question, as asked, is inane at best.

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**Author:** ![Caridwen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c89c15/32.png) [@Caridwen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Caridwen)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2006, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-drown-santa-claus/373735/45 "2006-09-24T00:44:42Z")

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The question I asked Renob, but feel free to answer if you wish was in regard to his/her post-

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> Yeah, the Democrats have done so much on this issue. For example, Bill Clinton never even submitted the Kyoto Treaty to the Senate for ratification. Perhaps this has to do with the fact that the Senate voted unanimously for an amendment by Robert Byrd (a Democrat) to essentially reject the treaty’s provisions.
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> Blame the GOP if you wish, but Democrats haven’t lifted a finger to do anything about global warming outside of see An Inconvenient Truth.

It was a pretty simple question. Nothing inane about it, and I doubt if Renob will have as much trouble as you seem to be having understanding what I’m asking. I asked if he/she thought it should have been ractified and his opinion of what happened.

If you want to answer, have at it. You aren’t charged by the word for your posts and I think your allowed to post more than one sentence if your interested in discussing something. If your intent is to just nitpick and play word games with a question I asked someone, kindly fuck off.

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**Author:** ![Carol\_Stream](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c2a13f/32.png) [@Carol\_Stream](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carol_Stream)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2006, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-drown-santa-claus/373735/46 "2006-09-24T01:18:34Z")

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[QUOTE=Caridwen]  
It was a pretty simple question. Nothing inane about it, and I doubt if Renob will have as much trouble as you seem to be having understanding what I’m asking. I asked if he/she thought it should have been ractified and his opinion of what happened.  
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No, it shouldn’t have been “ractified”.

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**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2006, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-drown-santa-claus/373735/47 "2006-09-25T04:30:12Z")

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Who says Republicans aren’t doing anything? Here’s one biggie: they’re cleverly allowing Big Oil™ to jack gas prices so high that perhaps some of you fools will get fed up enough to buy more economical vehicles or stop driving so much 😃

And I’m a Republican who, for the last 14 years, has relied upon public transportation, a bicycle, and my own two feet to get around!

[sub]The fact that I lost my license 14 years ago and have since found better things than cars to spend my money on is irrelevant.[/sub]

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2006, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-drown-santa-claus/373735/48 "2006-09-25T12:14:48Z")

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[QUOTE=Phase42]  
Who says Republicans aren’t doing anything? Here’s one biggie: they’re cleverly allowing Big Oil™ to jack gas prices so high that perhaps some of you fools will get fed up enough to buy more economical vehicles or stop driving so much 😃

And I’m a Republican who, for the last 14 years, has relied upon public transportation, a bicycle, and my own two feet to get around!  
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The Dirty little truth. High Gas prices might be the best thing that can happen to the Environment, but no one can say that without public ridicule. The higher prices get, the more we will conserve and go to alternate sources of energy.

Jim

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**Author:** ![The\_Weird\_One](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7bcc69/32.png) [@The\_Weird\_One](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Weird_One)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2006, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-drown-santa-claus/373735/49 "2006-09-25T12:20:29Z")

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As another non-car-owner, I too applaud high gas prices.  
I live in fear of this winter’s heating oil bill, though.

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**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2006, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-drown-santa-claus/373735/50 "2006-09-25T23:36:46Z")

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I don’t even need/use heating oil. Here in the Pacific NW, we have nice clean hydroelectric power for electric heating. Of course, the same people who holler about global warming also holler about the dams and their effect on fish. I imagine if wind power ever becomes widely implemented, we’ll start hearing about all the birds being killed when they fly into the windmill vanes.

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