# Republicans losing thier minds as a nigger gets closer to being POTUS **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [October 11, 2008, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-losing-thier-minds-as-a-nigger-gets-closer-to-being-potus/467442 "2008-10-11T05:51:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2008, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-losing-thier-minds-as-a-nigger-gets-closer-to-being-potus/467442/21 "2008-10-11T17:55:46Z")
> [@astro](#): > > [Anti-Obama anger erupts at McCain events > Taunts, jeers noticeably louder when VP candidate Palin appears](http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27123224/) > > I’'m a registered sick of Bush & Bush lite-McCain pubbie voting for Obama. I know what many (not all) Republicans are thinking in their heart of hearts and it’s not pretty. > > They are mortified a nigger is on the cusp of power. Lets see, you started a thread accusing Republicans of racism while using childish adjectives such as Bush lite-Mcain and pubbie. OK, lets review the history of the KKK. From Wiki: \*\* Indeed, all they had in common, besides being overwhelmingly white, southern, and Democratic, was that they called themselves, or were called, Klansmen.[15] Historian Eric Foner observed: In effect, the Klan was a military force serving the interests of the Democratic party, the planter class, and all those who desired restoration of white supremacy. Its purposes were political, but political in the broadest sense, for it sought to affect power relations, both public and private, throughout Southern society. It aimed to reverse the interlocking changes sweeping over the South during Reconstruction: to destroy the Republican party’s infrastructure, undermine the Reconstruction state, reestablish control of the black labor force, and restore racial subordination in every aspect of Southern life.[16] To that end they worked to curb the education, economic advancement, voting rights, and right to keep and bear arms of blacks.[16] The Ku Klux Klan soon spread into nearly every southern state, launching a “reign of terror” against Republican leaders both black and white. Those political leaders assassinated during the campaign included Arkansas Congressman James M. Hinds, three members of the South Carolina legislature, and several men who served in constitutional conventions.\*\* It’s not the Republican Party that has a former Klan leader firmly seated in the Senate. In fact, when a Klan member tried to run as a Republican (David Duke) he got the beat-down from his own party. And I’m sure you’re aware of the AP poll that shows 1/3 of white Democrats have racial issues. Trying to assign Klan beliefs to Republicans is a HUGE case of hypocrisy. Since I don’t think you’re capable of apologizing for your racist views I’ll just invite you to sit on your hatred until civility and rational thought return you to your senses. ---
**Author:** ![Oregon\_sunshine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/50afbb/32.png) [@Oregon\_sunshine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oregon_sunshine)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2008, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-losing-thier-minds-as-a-nigger-gets-closer-to-being-potus/467442/22 "2008-10-11T18:20:30Z")
Holy crap you said the “n word”!! :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Camus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ba8739/32.png) [@Camus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Camus)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2008, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-losing-thier-minds-as-a-nigger-gets-closer-to-being-potus/467442/23 "2008-10-11T18:25:00Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > It’s not the Republican Party that has a former Klan leader firmly seated in the Senate. In fact, when a Klan member tried to run as a Republican (David Duke) he got the beat-down from his own party. And I’m sure you’re aware of the AP poll that shows 1/3 of white Democrats have racial issues. Trying to assign Klan beliefs to Republicans is a HUGE case of hypocrisy. > > Since I don’t think you’re capable of apologizing for your racist views I’ll just invite you to sit on your hatred until civility and rational thought return you to your senses. Interesting red herring. But then you left off this telling bit from that very same Wikipedia page. [QUOTE=Wikipedia] Numerous smaller groups use the Klan name. Estimates are that about two-thirds of KKK members are concentrated in the South, with another third situated primarily in the lower Midwest. [/QUOTE] So, if the South and lower Midwest tends to vote Republican NOW (since that estimate is of the present), that means that KKK groups and supporters are either a democratic minority in these areas or they vote along with the Republican majority in these areas. Since I don’t think anyone could claim that KKK members vote Democratic with a straight face, that means that they have likely abandoned the Democratic party. So, what changed - the political positions of the Democratic party or the political positions of the Ku Klux Klan? Even the OP isn’t saying that all Republicans are racist. ---
**Author:** ![TWDuke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e495f1/32.png) [@TWDuke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TWDuke)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2008, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-losing-thier-minds-as-a-nigger-gets-closer-to-being-potus/467442/24 "2008-10-11T18:32:12Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > In effect, the Klan was a military force serving the interests of the Democratic party, the planter class, and all those who desired restoration of white supremacy. It might surprise you to learn that things have changed a little in the last 130 years. > [@Nixon Strategist Kevin Phillips](#): > > From now on, the Republicans are never going to get more than 10 to 20 percent of the Negro vote and they don’t need any more than that… but Republicans would be shortsighted if they weakened enforcement of the Voting Rights Act. The more Negroes who register as Democrats in the South, the sooner the Negrophobe whites will quit the Democrats and become Republicans. That’s where the votes are. > [@Republican political consultant Lee Atwater](#): > > You start out in 1954 by saying, “Nigger, nigger, nigger.” By 1968 you can’t say “nigger”—that hurts you. Backfires. So you say stuff like forced busing, states’ rights and all that stuff. You’re getting so abstract now [that] you’re talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you’re talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is [that] blacks get hurt worse than whites. And subconsciously maybe that is part of it. I’m not saying that. But I’m saying that if it is getting that abstract, and that coded, that we are doing away with the racial problem one way or the other. You follow me—because obviously sitting around saying, “We want to cut this,” is much more abstract than even the busing thing, and a hell of a lot more abstract than “Nigger, nigger”. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2008, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-losing-thier-minds-as-a-nigger-gets-closer-to-being-potus/467442/25 "2008-10-11T18:50:05Z")
> [@TWDuke](#): > > It might surprise you to learn that things have changed a little in the last 130 years. The AP poll wasn’t taken 130 years ago. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2008, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-losing-thier-minds-as-a-nigger-gets-closer-to-being-potus/467442/26 "2008-10-11T18:56:53Z")
> [@Camus](#): > > Interesting red herring. But then you left off this telling bit from that very same Wikipedia page. > > Even the OP isn’t saying that all Republicans are racist. Never siad he did. He said “many” and I pointed out the hypocracy and backed it up with the AP poll. ---
**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2008, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-losing-thier-minds-as-a-nigger-gets-closer-to-being-potus/467442/27 "2008-10-11T19:09:43Z")
> [@Koxinga](#): > > Gee, I didn’t know that [all these voters in the West Virginia Democratic primary race](http://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=c-q4MDQ0cDI&feature=related) had suddenly become Republicans. But I suppose I should have guessed. I wouldn’t want any of them brain-dead fools who were interviewed, voting for me anyway, if I was Obama. I never knew being able to sing “The Star Spangled Banner” was an election qualification though, so I’ve learned something by listening to that crap. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2008, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-losing-thier-minds-as-a-nigger-gets-closer-to-being-potus/467442/28 "2008-10-11T19:18:38Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > If the Dem nominee were a white man with experience and politics roughly equivalent to Obama’s, there still would be plenty of irrational vitriol on the Pub side, like there was with Clinton; but we would not be seeing anything near **this** level of demonization. > > We would be, however, if the nominee were Hillary. For reasons I’ve never been able to understand despite endless discussion of them in this Forum. I seriously doubt a white candidate with the same political equivalent of Obama would have been elected in the Primary. You can’t deny that Obama got a bump from African American voters. ---
**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2008, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-losing-thier-minds-as-a-nigger-gets-closer-to-being-potus/467442/29 "2008-10-11T19:26:49Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > Race is the excuse of last resort for those who don’t understand the issues. Sometimes, much more than is admitted, it’s the first resort. ---
**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2008, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-losing-thier-minds-as-a-nigger-gets-closer-to-being-potus/467442/30 "2008-10-11T19:29:46Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > So what? Most black racists are Democrats including right up to the leadership. Wrong. Most black racists don’t vote. ---
**Author:** ![erislover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/71e660/32.png) [@erislover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/erislover)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2008, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-losing-thier-minds-as-a-nigger-gets-closer-to-being-potus/467442/31 "2008-10-11T19:30:26Z")
I’ve been trying to stay out of the various racism threads because I have been wholly unable to formulate my own view. On one hand, I still believe racism will strongly influence the voting this year, either in its pure form, its reverse form, and maybe even in “white guilt” form. But, bring it into focus, this is just saying: race is not a dead issue in America. I think that’s a well-accepted notion that requires no debate. This run for president has brought the subject up again, but let’s not suppose that this is actually some kind of special phenomenon. Racist thoughts in various ways aren’t dead, and a black person running for president makes us see more clearly that this issue is here. End of story. Sometimes I think the McCain camp has tried to tickle some dormant racist ideas in the electorate as a campaign strategy. I am not convinced it can make a difference, which then causes me to think that I only _think_ I see the McCain camp tickling those ideas and they really aren’t tickling those ideas, because they can reason it out same as I. Which then causes me to wonder to what extent, and in what way, race is affecting _my_ decisions in this election. I’m seeing shadows of racism everywhere. But _then_ I think: well I admit race is not a dead issue, maybe I’m not seeing shadows of it in my hallucinatory peripheral vision, maybe I’ve just underestimated its ubiquity. One thing is certain: it will not become clearer to me what the real situation is after the election. Obama being elected, or not, is not conclusive data on the issue of race in America. ---
**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2008, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-losing-thier-minds-as-a-nigger-gets-closer-to-being-potus/467442/32 "2008-10-11T19:31:40Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > Alberto Gonzales, the single most corrupt Attorney General in history. Not to mention the most incompetent. ---
**Author:** ![Camus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ba8739/32.png) [@Camus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Camus)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2008, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-losing-thier-minds-as-a-nigger-gets-closer-to-being-potus/467442/33 "2008-10-11T19:34:29Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > Never siad he did. He said “many” and I pointed out the hypocracy and backed it up with the AP poll. Let me get this straight, you’re equating this: [QUOTE=AP Story] Given a choice of several positive and negative adjectives that might describe blacks, 20 percent of all whites said the word “violent” strongly applied. Among other words, 22 percent agreed with “boastful,” 29 percent “complaining,” 13 percent “lazy” and 11 percent “irresponsible.” When asked about positive adjectives, whites were more likely to stay on the fence than give a strongly positive assessment. Among white Democrats, one-third cited a negative adjective and, of those, 58 percent said they planned to back Obama. [Link](http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gehjsXjRU6cEer94pOkWWCmJEOAAD93B2O300) [/QUOTE] With support/membership in the KKK? While 1/3 of the respondents’ inclination towards negative adjectives for an entire race is troubling, of that 33%, 58% still said they planned to vote Obama. So, it stands to reason that this 58% of this subset aren’t the ones saying Obama is an Arab/secret Muslim/terrorist/black militant. But just to continue with your comparison, who do you think the membership of the KKK is more inclined to vote for now? ---
**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2008, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-losing-thier-minds-as-a-nigger-gets-closer-to-being-potus/467442/34 "2008-10-11T19:35:18Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > . . . Maybe we’ve been worried about post-election riots from the wrong quarter. I’m a little concerned you may have something there. I wouldn’t be surprised to hear that black churches have begun to take precautions. ---
**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2008, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-losing-thier-minds-as-a-nigger-gets-closer-to-being-potus/467442/35 "2008-10-11T19:35:24Z")
This topic is GD material and not Pit? Surely the SDMB is now showing its liberal bias. WTF now, what is exactly being debated here with this inflammatory subject? It is purely Pit material and insulting to any McCain supporter who is voting on ideology. Are the 90 plus percent of blacks voting for Obama doing it for racial reasons? Can I post in Great Debates that “Niggers Hate White People” because of these polls? I would submit that the admin that the moderator spoke with needs to rethink his decision… ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2008, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-losing-thier-minds-as-a-nigger-gets-closer-to-being-potus/467442/36 "2008-10-11T19:38:23Z")
> [@Camus](#): > > Let me get this straight, you’re equating this: > > With support/membership in the KKK? While 1/3 of the respondents’ inclination towards negative adjectives for an entire race is troubling, of that 33%, 58% still said they planned to vote Obama. So, it stands to reason that this 58% of this subset aren’t the ones saying Obama is an Arab/secret Muslim/terrorist/black militant. But just to continue with your comparison, who do you think the membership of the KKK is more inclined to vote for now? what percentage of Republicans does that represent. I’ve never met anyone who remotely thinks Obama is Muslim or for that matter would care. And your discounting Democrats who spread the same rumors. ---
**Author:** ![TWDuke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e495f1/32.png) [@TWDuke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TWDuke)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2008, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-losing-thier-minds-as-a-nigger-gets-closer-to-being-potus/467442/37 "2008-10-11T19:44:26Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > The AP poll wasn’t taken 130 years ago. It offers no basis for comparison between parties, not that the AP poll has squat to do with what I posted anyway, which was simply addressing your bizarre introduction of 19th-century politics into a thread about contemporary events as if the civil rights struggles of the 1950s and '60s had never happened. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2008, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-losing-thier-minds-as-a-nigger-gets-closer-to-being-potus/467442/38 "2008-10-11T19:44:47Z")
> [@Onomatopoeia](#): > > Wrong. Most black racists don’t vote. Really, so [Louis Farrakhan](http://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/story?id=2937953) isn’t publicly supporting Obama? Can you back up your statement? ---
**Author:** ![HPL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/3da27b/32.png) [@HPL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HPL)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2008, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-losing-thier-minds-as-a-nigger-gets-closer-to-being-potus/467442/39 "2008-10-11T19:56:56Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > Of course, a lot of this shit is now probably helping Obama. “Nasty racist crap spewed at Republican rally” ran as a major news story on every outlet, even Fox. “McCain Booed By Own Supporters When He Tells Them Not To Spew Racist Crap” is running very prominently. > > This stuff is more lost votes for McCain’s campaign. He’s apparently damned if he condemns it - his own supporters boo him - and damned if he doesn’t. He’s screwed. I was browsing a website I used to frequent when I was more righty..and I can’t tell if I’ve just become that liberal or they’ve gotten more insane, but the people on those forums are completely fricken insane. When the lady said she was afraid of Obama because “He’s an Arab” and McCain told her Obama was a nice guy, the deziens completely lost it, and started condeming McCain for being a Giant pussy and wanting to lose. They also think that McCain has been far too nice to Obama in his attack ads. Of course, most of those people also really, really believe that Obama is both a Muslim and a Socalist, Islamofacist terrorist sleeper Agent. ---
**Author:** ![erislover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/71e660/32.png) [@erislover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/erislover)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2008, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-losing-thier-minds-as-a-nigger-gets-closer-to-being-potus/467442/40 "2008-10-11T20:05:59Z")
> [@HPL](#): > > Of course, most of those people also really, really believe that Obama is both a Muslim and a Socalist, Islamofacist terrorist sleeper Agent. He’s not Muslim! [j/k] [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-losing-thier-minds-as-a-nigger-gets-closer-to-being-potus/467442.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-losing-thier-minds-as-a-nigger-gets-closer-to-being-potus/467442.md?page=3)