# Republicans losing thier minds as a nigger gets closer to being POTUS **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [October 11, 2008, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-losing-thier-minds-as-a-nigger-gets-closer-to-being-potus/467442 "2008-10-11T05:51:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![ladyfoxfyre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@ladyfoxfyre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ladyfoxfyre)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2008, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-losing-thier-minds-as-a-nigger-gets-closer-to-being-potus/467442/61 "2008-10-12T00:05:45Z")
> [@monstro](#): > > Now I can’t look at a person wearing a McCain-Palin sticker without thinking ignorant douchebag racist. Every decent Republican should be embarrassed after watching the “Sidewalk to Nowhere” video. There’s no defense for that level of invective. Absolutely none. Wow, I googled that just to see for myself. I am honestly disgusted that those people are Americans. Jesus. ---
**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2008, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-losing-thier-minds-as-a-nigger-gets-closer-to-being-potus/467442/62 "2008-10-12T00:07:06Z")
> [@monstro](#): > > Now I can’t look at a person wearing a McCain-Palin sticker without thinking ignorant douchebag racist. Every decent Republican should be embarrassed after watching the “Sidewalk to Nowhere” video. There’s no defense for that level of invective. Absolutely none. Exactly. If you are not condemning the opinions and spite and hate seen in that video or saying that you are ashamed to have them in your party, then you are, IMO, one of them. Condi Rice is indeed qualified, but her area of expertise is not modern day foreign policy. She’s a Cold War expert. Essentially she’s had to learn on the job. Nothing wrong with that (and I would hope any Sec of State would do so) but it put her at a disadvantage in a time when we needed someone up to speed now. Perhaps there was no such person. Condi’s race has nothing to do with her job performance or her abilities. But I do think that Bush et al looked at her and said, “woman AND black–yes! we can shut up the critics.” That she’s a close friend of the Bushes didn’t hurt. All this said, I don’t think W is racist; I doubt most of his appointees are racist. I do think the majority of the GOP is. But then I think that of the majority of Americans, too. ---
**Author:** ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2008, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-losing-thier-minds-as-a-nigger-gets-closer-to-being-potus/467442/63 "2008-10-12T00:16:09Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > His skin color has nothing to do with it. It’s the fact that Obama is a barking mad Marxist. Next you guys will be saying he pals around with terrorists…oh, wait… ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2008, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-losing-thier-minds-as-a-nigger-gets-closer-to-being-potus/467442/64 "2008-10-12T00:33:03Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > The phrase “Uncle Tom” comes to mind. If you’re referring to Clarence Thomas, I’d say that “jackass” would come to mind sooner. ---
**Author:** ![Hyperelastic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Hyperelastic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hyperelastic)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2008, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-losing-thier-minds-as-a-nigger-gets-closer-to-being-potus/467442/65 "2008-10-12T01:02:38Z")
> [@DMark](#): > > I don’t know why this comes as a surprise. I come from a small town and trust me when I say 98% of the idiots at Billy Bob’s Bar are a bunch of illiterate, homophobic, sexist, xenophobic, jingoistic, gun-tottin’, NASCAR lovin’, racist assholes, and proud of it! Anybody who says otherwise is a liar. You know Bush has one of the lowest ratings of any President in history? These clueless dickheads at Billy Bob’s are the remaining 24% who still think Bush is doing a swell job. NASCAR?! Gosh, is that still legal? I live in a city with a significant Muslim population, and trust me when I say that 98% of them are a bunch of towel-headed, woman-hating, plane-bombing, kuffar-killing, clit-cutting, homo-squashing, ululating Allah-botherers who are so stupid they’re only voting for Obama because his middle name is Hussein. Trust me on this one. Anybody who says otherwise is a liar. ---
**Author:** ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2008, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-losing-thier-minds-as-a-nigger-gets-closer-to-being-potus/467442/66 "2008-10-12T01:07:07Z")
> [@Hyperelastic](#): > > NASCAR?! Gosh, is that still legal? > > I live in a city with a significant Muslim population, and trust me when I say that 98% of them are a bunch of towel-headed, woman-hating, plane-bombing, kuffar-killing, clit-cutting, homo-squashing, ululating Allah-botherers who are so stupid they’re only voting for Obama because his middle name is Hussein. Trust me on this one. Anybody who says otherwise is a liar. You can post from Billy Bob’s, who knew? Parody doesn’t really work when it’s not, you know, funny. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2008, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-losing-thier-minds-as-a-nigger-gets-closer-to-being-potus/467442/67 "2008-10-12T01:37:43Z")
**TWEEEET!** The generalized name calling of people for simply belonging to a political party with which one disagrees along with other stupid antics are getting too close to being leveled at other posters. Knock it off. If anyone has an overwhelming need to categorize “all” of any group as racists, terrorists, or kitten kickers, go take it to the **Pit**. It does nothing to actually promote a discussion and it simply encourages other posters to resort to the same stupid vitriol rather than actually considering and commenting in a reasoned manner. [/Moderating] ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2008, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-losing-thier-minds-as-a-nigger-gets-closer-to-being-potus/467442/68 "2008-10-12T01:46:17Z")
> [@tomndebb](#): > > **TWEEEET!** > > The generalized name calling of people for simply belonging to a political party with which one disagrees along with other stupid antics are getting too close to being leveled at other posters. > > Knock it off. > > If anyone has an overwhelming need to categorize “all” of any group as racists, terrorists, or kitten kickers, go take it to the **Pit**. It does nothing to actually promote a discussion and it simply encourages other posters to resort to the same stupid vitriol rather than actually considering and commenting in a reasoned manner. > > [/Moderating] You know someone’s bound to Pit you for not stepping in until someone insulted Muslims, don’t you? ---
**Author:** ![leander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bcef8e/32.png) [@leander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leander)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2008, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-losing-thier-minds-as-a-nigger-gets-closer-to-being-potus/467442/69 "2008-10-12T01:46:55Z")
> [@tomndebb](#): > > **TWEEEET!** > > The generalized name calling of people for simply belonging to a political party with which one disagrees along with other stupid antics are getting too close to being leveled at other posters. > > Knock it off. > > If anyone has an overwhelming need to categorize “all” of any group as racists, terrorists, or kitten kickers, go take it to the **Pit**. It does nothing to actually promote a discussion and it simply encourages other posters to resort to the same stupid vitriol rather than actually considering and commenting in a reasoned manner. > > [/Moderating] Is there any point to keeping this thread open? I’m a Democrat, and it makes me ill to see a topic like this on this board. ---
**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2008, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-losing-thier-minds-as-a-nigger-gets-closer-to-being-potus/467442/70 "2008-10-12T01:48:38Z")
> [@tomndebb](#): > > **TWEEEET!** > If anyone has an overwhelming need to categorize “all” of any group as **racists** , terrorists, or kitten kickers, go take it to the **Pit**. It does nothing to actually promote a discussion and it simply encourages other posters to resort to the same stupid vitriol rather than actually considering and commenting in a reasoned manner. > > [/Moderating] \*Bolding mine. You mean like the thread title? I am still in shock and awe that this is allowed to stand in GD.. ---
**Author:** ![j666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@j666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/j666)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2008, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-losing-thier-minds-as-a-nigger-gets-closer-to-being-potus/467442/71 "2008-10-12T02:00:07Z")
> [@eleanorigby](#): > > But I do think that Bush et al looked at her and said, “woman AND black–yes! we can shut up the critics.” That she’s a close friend of the Bushes didn’t hurt. I disagree with the first. I think Rice got the job because she is loyal, a team player. (The whole intelligent-and-capable thing helped … then again, maybe [not.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_D._Brown) As for Racism and Republicans … I remember the chants of “You’re too stupid to vote” in front of the supreme court over the Florida debacle. But I also remember a similar level of hate-filled frothing at the mouth of the Clinton impeachment. Racism may be the _expression_, but I don’t think it is the actual issue … I don’t have any theory about what is; I just don’t get it. Maybe they hate us for our freedoms … ---
**Author:** ![Gala\_Matrix\_Fire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4da419/32.png) [@Gala\_Matrix\_Fire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gala_Matrix_Fire)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2008, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-losing-thier-minds-as-a-nigger-gets-closer-to-being-potus/467442/72 "2008-10-12T02:03:26Z")
> [@Mr.Duality](#): > > Does anyone need more evidence than the middle name of “Hussein” to prove Obama is a terrorist? Consider this: > Astute observers of the photos of Obama bowling will note he is left-handed. > [http://images.chron.com/blogs/txpotomac/obama%20bowling.jpg](http://images.chron.com/blogs/txpotomac/obama%20bowling.jpg) > > Do you know who else is left-handed? Osama bin Laden! > [http://www.september11news.com/Oc7OsamaTVGun.jpg](http://www.september11news.com/Oc7OsamaTVGun.jpg) > > Why hasn’t this connection been made in the media? The media area bunch of liberal douchebags. They’re probably all _left-handed_ liberal douchebags. Being left-handed always means you’re evil. That’s why they call it _sinister._ ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2008, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-losing-thier-minds-as-a-nigger-gets-closer-to-being-potus/467442/73 "2008-10-12T02:17:33Z")
It was a typo. He meant to say “Obama is a’near!” ---
**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2008, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-losing-thier-minds-as-a-nigger-gets-closer-to-being-potus/467442/74 "2008-10-12T02:19:21Z")
> [@Mighty\_Girl](#): > > It was a typo. He meant to say “Obama is a’near!” We would like to extend a laurel, and a hearty handshake, to our new… ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2008, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-losing-thier-minds-as-a-nigger-gets-closer-to-being-potus/467442/75 "2008-10-12T02:20:24Z")
> [@eleanorigby](#): > > Condi Rice is indeed qualified, but her area of expertise is not modern day foreign policy. She’s a Cold War expert. Essentially she’s had to learn on the job. Nothing wrong with that (and I would hope any Sec of State would do so) but it put her at a disadvantage in a time when we needed someone up to speed now. It can be reasonably argued that you’re asking for a job description that cannot possibly be filled by any human being. The challenges that will face a Secretary of State are always new challenges. The world is never going to be the same in the next four years as it was in the past. What has Rice done wrong as Secretary of State? ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2008, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-losing-thier-minds-as-a-nigger-gets-closer-to-being-potus/467442/76 "2008-10-12T02:50:31Z")
> [@monstro](#): > > Now I can’t look at a person wearing a McCain-Palin sticker without thinking ignorant douchebag racist. Every decent Republican should be embarrassed after watching the “Sidewalk to Nowhere” video. There’s no defense for that level of invective. Absolutely none. You feel that strongly over stickers and videos of questionable provenance? ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2008, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-losing-thier-minds-as-a-nigger-gets-closer-to-being-potus/467442/77 "2008-10-12T02:52:00Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > This stuff is more lost votes for McCain’s campaign. He’s apparently damned if he condemns it - his own supporters boo him - and damned if he doesn’t. He’s screwed. The hard part of riding a tiger is the dismount… ---
**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2008, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-losing-thier-minds-as-a-nigger-gets-closer-to-being-potus/467442/78 "2008-10-12T02:55:50Z")
> [@j666](#): > > I disagree with the first. I think Rice got the job because she is loyal, a team player. (The whole intelligent-and-capable thing helped … then again, maybe [not.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_D._Brown) > > As for Racism and Republicans … I remember the chants of “You’re too stupid to vote” in front of the supreme court over the Florida debacle. But I also remember a similar level of hate-filled frothing at the mouth of the Clinton impeachment. Racism may be the _expression_, but I don’t think it is the actual issue … > > I don’t have any theory about what is; I just don’t get it. Maybe they hate us for our freedoms … You may well be right. Maybe people (right and left) only need excuses to bring their hatred forth. I don’t know. But I do know it’s sickening and I had thought better of my country and its citizens. Naive of me. **RickJay** –did you miss my very next sentence: Perhaps there was no such person? I don’t know that anyone could have been up to speed as was needed post 9/11. But I do think Rice served the Bush WH very well in terms of appearing to be all inclusive and PC. I don’t think W’s racist for placing her there or racist if he had never used her–I’m saying that it was a political move to put her there, not only for her skills, but also as a sop. RE the people voting only because Obama’s middle name is Hussein. People vote for all manner of reason–most of them not reasoned, logical and well thought out. There’s not much anyone can do about that. I used to be so optimistic and hopeful and think that if only we could educate people, we could make a better world. Well, ignorance can only be fought if the mind is open and the person willing to learn. It’s not so much an excuse for those people (or the ones who support Palin because she’s a woman) as it just\* is\*. That doesn’t make it right or just or good, but I honestly don’t know how to fight that sort of thing or if it’s even worth trying. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2008, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-losing-thier-minds-as-a-nigger-gets-closer-to-being-potus/467442/79 "2008-10-12T03:10:53Z")
This whole notion that Republicans who don’t want to vote for Obama, or dislike him, or fear what he might do is a function of racism is specious. For some people that is probably the reason. Yes, some people are racist. And some of them are Republicans. But before that badge gets attached to anyone, one simple though experiment is called for: how would these supposed racists feel if the person running were Colin Powell or Michael Steel? If a Republican wouldn’t vote for them if they were the candidate, we’d be much closer to a fair charge of racism. As it is, it is perfectly plausible and likely that they don’t like Obama for his ideas and policies. And even for his associations with Rezko, Ayers, Wright, etc. Some in this thread bristle that they can’t just throw the accusation around lightly, that it should have to be proven. It should. Can you imagine throwing around some other ugly accusation—pedophile, wife-beater, thief, liar—and not be suspected to have proof before you do so? ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2008, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-losing-thier-minds-as-a-nigger-gets-closer-to-being-potus/467442/80 "2008-10-12T04:44:46Z")
> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#): > > Yeah, and Condoleeza Rice is a house nigger too, right? She couldn’t have _possibly_ have been qualified for the job, she isn’t a smart accomplished woman or anything. Of course not, or Bush would never have hired her. Bush hires toadies and incompetents, and sacrificial cannon fodder like Powell. > [@magellan01](#): > > This whole notion that Republicans who don’t want to vote for Obama, or dislike him, or fear what he might do is a function of racism is specious. For some people that is probably the reason. Yes, some people are racist. And some of them are Republicans. But before that badge gets attached to anyone, one simple though experiment is called for: how would these supposed racists feel if the person running were Colin Powell or Michael Steel? They’d hate them too. No doubt they’d be less open about it, but they’d never vote for them as the Republican candidate. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-losing-thier-minds-as-a-nigger-gets-closer-to-being-potus/467442.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-losing-thier-minds-as-a-nigger-gets-closer-to-being-potus/467442.md?page=5)