# Republicans to show Michael Moore how bold-faced propaganda is really done

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-to-show-michael-moore-how-bold-faced-propaganda-is-really-done/260675>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 20, 2004, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-to-show-michael-moore-how-bold-faced-propaganda-is-really-done/260675 "2004-08-20T05:13:53Z")\
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**Author:** ![vanilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f19dbf/32.png) [@vanilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vanilla)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2004, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-to-show-michael-moore-how-bold-faced-propaganda-is-really-done/260675/21 "2004-08-21T04:25:37Z")

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I seem to recall an appearance on Leno where he yelled “God bless John Ashcroft!” and implored the audience to applaud.  
Surreal.

I just read a newish book called Michael Moore is a big fat stupid white man.

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**Author:** ![seriousart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ebca7d/32.png) [@seriousart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/seriousart)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2004, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-to-show-michael-moore-how-bold-faced-propaganda-is-really-done/260675/22 "2004-08-21T05:08:25Z")

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> [@Zoe](#):
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> **Andros** , at first I was sad about Dennis Miller too. He had been a favorite of mine. _Loved_ those rants!
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> But if you watch his new show once or twice, the sad feeling melts into contempt. He isn’t the same man. It is embarrassing.

Ditto that, I have his first two books and used to love his HBO show.

Then he just got all bitter towards the little guy.  
And whether or not his points are valid, it’s always funnier to see those in high places taken down a peg than to kick the underdog. If he wants to be a straight commentator, then fine, but as a comedian I think he’s really lost it.

Just remembered, add [Silver City](http://www.apple.com/trailers/newmarket/silver_city.html) to the list of films about Bush this Fall. This one being a fictional account ala Wag the Dog staring Chris Cooper of Adaptation fame as a very GW-ish politician and Richard Dreyfuss as his Karl Rove-ish assistant.

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**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2004, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-to-show-michael-moore-how-bold-faced-propaganda-is-really-done/260675/23 "2004-08-21T05:10:51Z")

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> Just to remind folks who either care or who will be pissed off by it, Fahrenheit 9/11 has made $162,328,500.00 worldwide so far. Cite: Box Office Mojo’s Fahrenheit 9/11 page

_Battlefield Earth_ was pretty popular, too, because of its fanatical, irrational fanbase.

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2004, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-to-show-michael-moore-how-bold-faced-propaganda-is-really-done/260675/24 "2004-08-21T05:13:31Z")

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So is it **bold** face or **bald** face? 😕

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**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2004, 6:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-to-show-michael-moore-how-bold-faced-propaganda-is-really-done/260675/25 "2004-08-21T06:37:56Z")

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> [@SPOOFE](#):
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> _Battlefield Earth_ was pretty popular, too, because of its fanatical, irrational fanbase.

Uh, no, actually, it wasn’t. **Battlefield Earth** was not merely a critical flop, it was a commercial one as well. And I’m sure quite a few of the people who actually did pay money to see it were just curious to see how bad it was. Not by any stretch of the imagination was the movie “pretty popular”, nor does it have any apparent fan base, fanatical and irrational or otherwise.

Maybe you were thinking of the recent **Star Wars** films.

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**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2004, 7:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-to-show-michael-moore-how-bold-faced-propaganda-is-really-done/260675/26 "2004-08-21T07:18:04Z")

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> [@NoClueBoy](#):
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> So is it **bold** face or **bald** face? 😕

depends on whether you’re talking about boldface or baldface.

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**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2004, 7:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-to-show-michael-moore-how-bold-faced-propaganda-is-really-done/260675/27 "2004-08-21T07:19:09Z")

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didn’t mean to hit submit yet.

Yes, the OP should be _baldfaced_.

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**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2004, 7:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-to-show-michael-moore-how-bold-faced-propaganda-is-really-done/260675/28 "2004-08-21T07:59:52Z")

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The righties are just annoyed because **Fahrenheit 9/11** [color=red]_stomped_[/color all over **America’s Heart & Soul.** 😃

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2004, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-to-show-michael-moore-how-bold-faced-propaganda-is-really-done/260675/29 "2004-08-21T11:21:19Z")

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> [@NoClueBoy](#):
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> So is it **bold** face or **bald** face? 😕

It’s [bold-faced](http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=bold-faced), unless you mean a [fresh water duck](http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=baldface) or a [heavy type face](http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=boldface)

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**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2004, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-to-show-michael-moore-how-bold-faced-propaganda-is-really-done/260675/30 "2004-08-21T15:52:57Z")

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> [@SPOOFE](#):
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> _Battlefield Earth_ was pretty popular, too, because of its fanatical, irrational fanbase.

Battlefield Earth made $29mil worldwide. Production/marketing costs were over $100mil, making it a truly spectacular flop. [Cite.](http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=battlefieldearth.htm)

And comparing democrats to scientologists is pretty shitty.

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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2004, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-to-show-michael-moore-how-bold-faced-propaganda-is-really-done/260675/31 "2004-08-21T16:27:23Z")

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> [@rjung](#):
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> Yup. He’s even publically stated that he won’t do jokes against George W. Bush, just because he likes the guy. Which is grounds for automatic loss of his comedian credentials(\*), as any satirist and late-night talk show host knows.

And he was an overtly _political_ comedian. Him giving up shots at the president is like a fisherman giving up hooks and bait.

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