# Republicans today are a danger to the US and the world **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 18, 2018, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-today-are-a-danger-to-the-us-and-the-world/819848 "2018-08-18T21:42:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2018, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-today-are-a-danger-to-the-us-and-the-world/819848/141 "2018-08-26T01:07:24Z")
Republican soy bean farmers here in Arkansas who voted for him are kind of annoyed that their livelihood has tanked. The deal with high tariffs on solar cells is that some Americans will build factories and make money making solar cells. Little guys who install solar cells have lost their jobs. Do you sacrifice the little guys so that wealthy guys can make more money? Apparently so. ---
**Author:** ![poweroftheglory](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/919ad9/32.png) [@poweroftheglory](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/poweroftheglory)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2018, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-today-are-a-danger-to-the-us-and-the-world/819848/142 "2018-08-26T01:08:32Z")
> [@aruvqan](#): > > \ Woman 😛 > Well screw you too … though how you consider someone who is anti trump, anti teapublican a monster is beyond me … The Republican party has no place for you anymore. The party is irredeemable at this point. GWB and Reagan were no better than Trump. I’m sorry if I come across as an asshole, but I am sick of this cycle of horror this country has been going through for almost 40 years. Cycle as I’ve seen it. Republicans nominate regressive monster Democrats don’t take opponent seriously Through a combination of depressed turnouts/voter suppression and fraud Republican wins (despite not winning popular vote) Country goes to shit over 8 year horror show Republicans fail so hard that a Democrat wins the presidency Democrat quietly normalizes horrific prior Republican president policies and tries to reach across the isle to attract mythical Republican moderates to their side at the detriment of the Democratic base (ex. Obama attempted Grand Bargain) Backfires when Republicans act in bad faith and Democratic constituency checks out Cycle repeats and new horror show is elected Democrats become nostalgic to prior Republican president I’m sure someone with a political science degree will poke holes in my post. But I am terrified that 15 years from now Democrats will be praising Trump when Hitler von Mussolini gets elected. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2018, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-today-are-a-danger-to-the-us-and-the-world/819848/143 "2018-08-26T01:23:47Z")
> [@poweroftheglory](#): > > I’ve been lurking on this site for over ten years, and avoided posting due to a lack of confidence in the quality of my writing so please do not be too hard on me. > [@poweroftheglory](#): > > I’m sure someone with a political science degree will poke holes in my post. But I am terrified that 15 years from now Democrats will be praising Trump when Hitler von Mussolini gets elected. I enjoyed your whole post, but that last sentence there is fucking gold. Your writing is fine; keep doing it, ffs. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2018, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-today-are-a-danger-to-the-us-and-the-world/819848/144 "2018-08-26T01:38:12Z")
You forgot the legitimate Supreme Court nominee being ignored. ---
**Author:** ![MindsEye\_Watering](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mindseye_watering/32/3619_2.png) [@MindsEye\_Watering](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MindsEye_Watering)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2018, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-today-are-a-danger-to-the-us-and-the-world/819848/145 "2018-08-26T01:42:09Z")
> [@poweroftheglory](#): > > The Republican party has no place for you anymore. The party is irredeemable at this point. GWB and Reagan were no better than Trump. I’m sorry if I come across as an asshole, but I am sick of this cycle of horror this country has been going through for almost 40 years. > > Cycle as I’ve seen it. > > Republicans nominate regressive monster > > Democrats don’t take opponent seriously > > Through a combination of depressed turnouts/voter suppression and fraud Republican wins (despite not winning popular vote) > > Country goes to shit over 8 year horror show > > Republicans fail so hard that a Democrat wins the presidency > > Democrat quietly normalizes horrific prior Republican president policies and tries to reach across the isle to attract mythical Republican moderates to their side at the detriment of the Democratic base (ex. Obama attempted Grand Bargain) > > Backfires when Republicans act in bad faith and Democratic constituency checks out > > Cycle repeats and new horror show is elected > > Democrats become nostalgic to prior Republican president > > I’m sure someone with a political science degree will poke holes in my post. But I am terrified that 15 years from now Democrats will be praising Trump when Hitler von Mussolini gets elected. Well said. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2018, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-today-are-a-danger-to-the-us-and-the-world/819848/146 "2018-08-26T01:47:16Z")
> [@poweroftheglory](#): > > Republicans as a whole have been deplorable for decades. Liberals need to get it through their skulls that Trump is not an aberration. I know we all wish we lived in a West Wing fantasy world, but that will never be the case. The only difference between Trump and other Republicans is that Trump is too stupid to use the right dog whistles and just shows his hand. There are no good Republicans, and these “never Trumpers” are a minority in the Republican Party and are monsters in their own right. No more reaching across the aisle. If I hear another Democrat talk about the importance of bipartisanship I will bash my head against the wall. The past ten years should of taught everyone that Republicans will never act in good faith and should be opposed at every level. Obama tried to reach across the aisle to such a degree that he was practically a 90s era Republican and he was still smeared as a commie Nazi Muslim by conservatives. > > I’ve been lurking on this site for over ten years, and avoided posting due to a lack of confidence in the quality of my writing so please do not be too hard on me. Fucking right on! ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2018, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-today-are-a-danger-to-the-us-and-the-world/819848/147 "2018-08-26T15:15:58Z")
> [@poweroftheglory](#): > > Republicans as a whole have been deplorable for decades. Liberals need to get it through their skulls that Trump is not an aberration. I know we all wish we lived in a West Wing fantasy world, but that will never be the case. The only difference between Trump and other Republicans is that Trump is too stupid to use the right dog whistles and just shows his hand. There are no good Republicans, and these “never Trumpers” are a minority in the Republican Party and are monsters in their own right. No more reaching across the aisle. If I hear another Democrat talk about the importance of bipartisanship I will bash my head against the wall. The past ten years should of taught everyone that Republicans will never act in good faith and should be opposed at every level. Obama tried to reach across the aisle to such a degree that he was practically a 90s era Republican and he was still smeared as a commie Nazi Muslim by conservatives. > > I’ve been lurking on this site for over ten years, and avoided posting due to a lack of confidence in the quality of my writing so please do not be too hard on me. I agree with this completely. Trump isn’t the problem, he is a symptom of the problem by making it about Trump, we are letting the GOP off easy. They’ve already developed fucking amnesia about the Iraq war, Sarah Palin and Watergate. ---
**Author:** ![CookingWithGas](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cookingwithgas/32/485_2.png) [@CookingWithGas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CookingWithGas)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2018, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-today-are-a-danger-to-the-us-and-the-world/819848/148 "2018-08-26T18:37:07Z")
> [@abhka](#): > > Trump as a person is rude and repugnant and in a normal world he should not be POTUS, however when you have to deal with an economically treacherous tyranny like China and struggle against the cruel and gruesome drug cartels of Mexico and oppose the atrocious terrorist states of Syria and Iran and combat Islamic terrorism you need a strong uncompromising head of state that should adopt radical policies. Trump’s strategy as POTUS, and in his own business prior to that, is to bully and bluster, with no strategy backing it up. He has always seen every transaction as, “One person wins, one loses, and so I’m going to make it look like I won.” He is all opening and no middle or end game. ---
**Author:** ![Fugazi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f08c70/32.png) [@Fugazi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fugazi)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2018, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-today-are-a-danger-to-the-us-and-the-world/819848/149 "2018-08-26T20:10:57Z")
> [@aruvqan](#): > > Fucking excuse me? Check my social media posts, I have been antiTrump from the time he started running. > I do not vote ticket, I research candidates and vote according to platform. > I stay registered because I can vote in republican only pollings, so that there will be a negative vote counted. If we don’t get republicans that will vote negatively in republican restricted polling, how can we get the morons out of office? Then I would have to say you aren’t really a Republican. You can call yourself a Republican, and you can stay registered so you can vote against the worst idiots, but I bet the vast majority of Republicans would say you aren’t one. You haven’t left the party, but it has left you. I lost my “faith” in the party way back when the religious right started taking over. Then came the teabaggers and now the Trumpistas, I don’t see myself ever going back. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2018, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-today-are-a-danger-to-the-us-and-the-world/819848/150 "2018-08-26T20:46:15Z")
> [@CookingWithGas](#): > > Trump’s strategy as POTUS, and in his own business prior to that, is to bully and bluster, with no strategy backing it up. He has always seen every transaction as, “One person wins, one loses, and so I’m going to make it look like I won.” He is all opening and no middle or end game. Republicans tend to work that way, and in general many male legislators. They are often lawyers, and see a win/lose outcome rather than compromise. Female legislators are said to be more open to compromise. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2018, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-today-are-a-danger-to-the-us-and-the-world/819848/151 "2018-08-27T01:57:25Z")
> [@abhka](#): > > I would like to comment on the foreign policy of the current republican administration. > Trump as a person is rude and repugnant and in a normal world he should not be POTUS, however when you have to deal with an economically treacherous tyranny like China and struggle against the cruel and gruesome drug cartels of Mexico and oppose the atrocious terrorist states of Syria and Iran and combat Islamic terrorism you need a strong uncompromising head of state that should adopt radical policies. > Many dictatorships or pseudo-democratic states instill a psychopathic ,chauvinistic, state-centered, individual-oppressing ideology on their fellow citizens through falsification of history and reality and one of those falsifications is to portray (in schools and media) the USA as a vile state independently of the nature of the incumbent US government. > That said the best would have been that a decent, nice and non fascist president (like Obama or Clinton or Reagan) implement those necessary resolutions. You’re really fucking stupid, or a Russian troll. If you’re a Russian troll, I’m sorry your mom has to suck cock for beet money. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2018, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-today-are-a-danger-to-the-us-and-the-world/819848/152 "2018-08-27T02:26:14Z")
> [@abhka](#): > > I would like to comment on the foreign policy of the current republican administration. > Trump as a person is rude and repugnant and in a normal world he should not be POTUS, however when you have to deal with an economically treacherous tyranny like China and struggle against the cruel and gruesome drug cartels of Mexico and oppose the atrocious terrorist states of Syria and Iran and combat Islamic terrorism you need a strong uncompromising head of state that should adopt radical policies. > Many dictatorships or pseudo-democratic states instill a psychopathic ,chauvinistic, state-centered, individual-oppressing ideology on their fellow citizens through falsification of history and reality and one of those falsifications is to portray (in schools and media) the USA as a vile state independently of the nature of the incumbent US government. > That said the best would have been that a decent, nice and non fascist president (like Obama or Clinton or Reagan) implement those necessary resolutions. Ah yes, the “biggest asshole wins” theory of diplomacy. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2018, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-today-are-a-danger-to-the-us-and-the-world/819848/153 "2018-08-27T03:00:30Z")
> [@abhka](#): > > I would like to comment on the foreign policy of the current republican administration. > Trump as a person is rude and repugnant and in a normal world he should not be POTUS, however when you have to deal with an economically treacherous tyranny like China and struggle against the cruel and gruesome drug cartels of Mexico and oppose the atrocious terrorist states of Syria and Iran and combat Islamic terrorism you need a strong uncompromising head of state that should adopt radical policies. In a word, “no”. In two words, “fuck no”. “This situation/crisis is uniquely dangerous and exceptional, therefore exceptional powers or latitude to act need to be given to one man to solve it !” is how every parliamentary system ever became a dictatorship ; starting with Ancient bloody Rome. Why don’t people ever fucking \*LEARN \*? ---
**Author:** ![abhka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bc79bd/32.png) [@abhka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/abhka)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2018, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-today-are-a-danger-to-the-us-and-the-world/819848/154 "2018-08-27T11:54:24Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > You’re really fucking stupid, or a Russian troll. If you’re a Russian troll, I’m sorry your mom has to suck cock for beet money. I’m not a Russian. What’s wrong with what I wrote, please elaborate. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2018, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-today-are-a-danger-to-the-us-and-the-world/819848/155 "2018-08-27T12:05:44Z")
Because it isn’t the 16th century any more? In a world with nuclear and biological weapons, dick-sizing contests are the _last_ things we need. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2018, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-today-are-a-danger-to-the-us-and-the-world/819848/156 "2018-08-27T12:14:42Z")
> [@aruvqan](#): > > \ Woman 😛 > Well screw you too … though how you consider someone who is anti trump, anti teapublican a monster is beyond me … Because you’re still enabling them. Because the Teapublicans and the Trumpistas _are_ the party. If you a Republican now then you can only help them stay on power and destroy our democracy. Maybe someday the Republican Party can be rebuilt into something responsible, but the only way to get to that point is to destroy the current party completely. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2018, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-today-are-a-danger-to-the-us-and-the-world/819848/157 "2018-08-28T01:48:41Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > Maybe someday the Republican Party can be rebuilt into something responsible, but the only way to get to that point is to destroy the current party completely. How, why, and do “we” have the right? The Republican party would probably “destroy” the Democratic party if they could. :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2018, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-today-are-a-danger-to-the-us-and-the-world/819848/158 "2018-08-28T01:56:39Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > How, why, and do “we” have the right? The Republican party would probably “destroy” the Democratic party if they could. :dubious: The difference is in what each side means by “destroy.” And surely this isn’t the first time you’ve heard someone use the word in this context. The Repiblican Party is a white supremacist, racist, sexist, fascist, anti-democratic, authoritarian, theocratic, kleptocratic, revolutionary political cult. Why do I need any particular “right” to wish for its destruction? ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2018, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-today-are-a-danger-to-the-us-and-the-world/819848/159 "2018-08-28T01:58:14Z")
> [@abhka](#): > > I’m not a Russian. > What’s wrong with what I wrote, please elaborate. When you suspend the rule of law and replace it with the rule of men, the Supermen in charge inevitably make enemies - the enemies being people who oppose them. That’s what you don’t understand. When someone in power makes enemies, it’s no longer about what’s best for the greater good; it’s about survival of the regime. This is the road we’re going down right now: the survival of the regime. Understand something: ideology doesn’t matter. When you decide that he’s crossed one of your boundaries, the authoritarian won’t give two shits. Speak out and you will be the enemy. Your votes for Republican party candidates in previous elections won’t matter because authoritarians find ways to rig elections too. In fact, that’s what they dedicate themselves to. Finding ways to legitimize illegitimate, disqualifying behavior. We are very, very close to the brink. We’re very close to the end of the American state as we know it. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2018, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-today-are-a-danger-to-the-us-and-the-world/819848/160 "2018-08-28T12:16:57Z")
> [@abhka](#): > > I’m not a Russian. > What’s wrong with what I wrote, please elaborate. Well, what you wrote is profoundly ignorant, so I assumed an intelligent person wrote it because he was paid to do so by the Russian intelligence services. My apologies for being so optimistic. Let’s see, you wrote > [@](#): > > …however when you have to deal with an economically treacherous tyranny like China and struggle against the cruel and gruesome drug cartels of Mexico and oppose the atrocious terrorist states of Syria and Iran and combat Islamic terrorism you need a strong uncompromising head of state that should adopt radical policies. Let’s start with China, can you demonstrate that anything Trump has done has made the situation with China better? First tell me a) what you think the problem is and b) how Trump’s actions have improved that problem. As for the terrorist state of Syria, what have we done? You do realize that we are pretty much now following Russia’s lead in Syria and have eased up on Assad, helping to keep him in power? You also realize that US forces in Syria were attacked by Russian mercenary forces and we really didn’t do much about it? Also, do you realize that before we attacked Syrian forces, we tipped them off through the Russians and we only did minimal damage that they were able to repair quickly? As for Iran, once again, I ask you a) what is the problem and b) how is Trump making that problem better? You do realize that by walking away from the Iran deal, Iran is more likely to continue to develop nuclear weapons? You can see why I wanted to believe that you were really a Russian troll, it’s less depressing than the fact that people like you exist and vote. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-today-are-a-danger-to-the-us-and-the-world/819848.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-today-are-a-danger-to-the-us-and-the-world/819848.md?page=9)