# Republicans want to eliminate the EPA **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 16, 2017, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-want-to-eliminate-the-epa/779976 "2017-02-16T14:23:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2017, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-want-to-eliminate-the-epa/779976/41 "2017-02-16T17:46:20Z")
> [@Crotalus](#): > > **…** > Let’s vent a little but stay calm. 🙂 I propose the venting begins with a thorough fun-making of co-sponsor Loudermilk’s name! ---
**Author:** ![Translucent\_Daydream](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/translucent_daydream/32/16170_2.png) [@Translucent\_Daydream](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Translucent_Daydream)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2017, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-want-to-eliminate-the-epa/779976/42 "2017-02-16T17:50:14Z")
> [@Crotalus](#): > > **John Mace** posted early in the thread that this is probably show-boating by a few members of congress rather than a serious attempt to get a bill passed, and he is probably right. It may come to a vote in the house and get passed, but it does seem unlikely that the senate would pass it. I have no doubt that Trump would sign it if it did make it through the senate. > > Let’s vent a little but stay calm. 🙂 My thoughts. I’m torn though. They voted plenty of times in repealing the ACA but when they were at home plate with the bat in hand, they let the strike go by without a swing. The republican plan for that is still largely unknown. I think the Trio of Dumbassery is just trying to get re-elected. Right? ---
**Author:** ![Translucent\_Daydream](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/translucent_daydream/32/16170_2.png) [@Translucent\_Daydream](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Translucent_Daydream)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2017, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-want-to-eliminate-the-epa/779976/43 "2017-02-16T17:53:00Z")
> [@watchwolf49](#): > > One good thing is that the EPA would not longer impede State DEQs from enacting tough environmental laws … and the other good news is The Donald won’t be violating Federal law gutting the agency … > > But a clever bit of “fake news” … strictly speaking, just introducing legislation doesn’t mean is has passed … only a particularly stupid butthurt snowflake would think this … Jesus fucking Christ people, that committee will be tied up for the next five years trying to get NOAA to backtrack their global warming data … that bill will be sitting on the shelf collecting dust long past the next election … > > C’mon … try to read with comprehension … a little … it doesn’t hurt … trust me … for what possible reason would I have to lie to you? Wouldn’t Letting the states regulate their own environmental regulations cause a race to the bottom though? I live in Oregon. We have pretty decent environmental regulation here but what is to stop Idaho from telling corporations that they can dump toxic waste right on the ground. Wouldn’t corporations be much more interested in relocating to Idaho at that point for cheaper operations? Even though the shit in the river in Idaho would flow right into my state? ---
**Author:** ![slumtrimpet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@slumtrimpet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slumtrimpet)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2017, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-want-to-eliminate-the-epa/779976/44 "2017-02-16T17:53:06Z")
> [@](#): > > Cholera should be fun again - my environmental engineer offspring ---
**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2017, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-want-to-eliminate-the-epa/779976/45 "2017-02-16T17:55:24Z")
> [@watchwolf49](#): > > One good thing is that the EPA would not longer impede State DEQs from enacting tough environmental laws … Right, but for every California there’s a Mississippi or North Dakota. Pollution doesn’t respect state boundaries. Nor national ones. ---
**Author:** ![Crotalus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crotalus/32/41_2.png) [@Crotalus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crotalus)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2017, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-want-to-eliminate-the-epa/779976/46 "2017-02-16T17:56:58Z")
> [@watchwolf49](#): > > … … … … … … … … … … … … That’s what your post looks like to me. What is it with you and these fucking ellipses? > [@Translucent\_Daydream](#): > > My thoughts. I’m torn though. They voted plenty of times in repealing the ACA but when they were at home plate with the bat in hand, they let the strike go by without a swing. The republican plan for that is still largely unknown. I think the Trio of Dumbassery is just trying to get re-elected. > > Right? I figure they are from districts where the EPA has been blamed for the state of the local economy. ---
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2017, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-want-to-eliminate-the-epa/779976/47 "2017-02-16T18:10:02Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > In 1987, I was in the L.A. area for job training. Several mornings, the CHP had to run traffic breaks because the _smog_ was so thick. And yes, it was smog, not fog. Fog isn’t a brownish-yellow color and it doesn’t burn your lungs. Dang, where were you? Colton? I’ve lived in L.A. since 1951 (i.e. when I was born), and I don’t remember smog anywhere near that bad since the early 60s. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2017, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-want-to-eliminate-the-epa/779976/48 "2017-02-16T18:13:04Z")
Even if the bill never passes and the EPA is saved, it’s still appropriate to severely PIT the short-sighted, money-grubbing jerks who would even introduce such a bill. Two separate things. ---
**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2017, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-want-to-eliminate-the-epa/779976/49 "2017-02-16T18:17:01Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > In 1987, I was in the L.A. area for job training. Several mornings, the CHP had to run traffic breaks because the _smog_ was so thick. And yes, it was smog, not fog. Fog isn’t a brownish-yellow color and it doesn’t burn your lungs. I’d suspect smoke from wildfires, at that time and that color. It’s happened more than once. ---
**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2017, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-want-to-eliminate-the-epa/779976/50 "2017-02-16T18:23:46Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > I propose the venting begins with a thorough fun-making of co-sponsor Loudermilk’s name! Not a chance; it’s the same as the name of the [guy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_D._Loudermilk)who wrote cool songs like “Tobacco Road” and “Indian Reservation.” ---
**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2017, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-want-to-eliminate-the-epa/779976/51 "2017-02-16T18:48:33Z")
> [@Translucent\_Daydream](#): > > Wouldn’t > Letting the states regulate their own environmental regulations cause a race to the bottom though? I live in Oregon. We have pretty decent environmental regulation here but what is to stop Idaho from telling corporations that they can dump toxic waste right on the ground. Wouldn’t corporations be much more interested in relocating to Idaho at that point for cheaper operations? Even though the shit in the river in Idaho would flow right into my state? Understood … if Boise, Salem and Olympia can’t come to an agreement between themselves then there’s a good reason to have a neutral third party mediating between the three … but I think you underestimate the great pride Idahoans have in their pristine environment … and for them it’s the EPA (and Salem) that interferes with installing the mercury scrubbers at Ash Grove … It could also be a race to the top … if Idaho allowed toxic waste dumping would people continue buying Idaho Potatoes? … how much does Oregon benefit from their renewable power generation? … why do folks build factories in Oregon today when Idaho has slightly laxer environmental laws … it’s good advertising copy to say by 2029 the factory in Oregon will use absolutely NO coal fired electricity … ---
**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2017, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-want-to-eliminate-the-epa/779976/52 "2017-02-16T19:08:43Z")
> [@Crotalus](#): > > That’s what your post looks like to me. What is it with you and these fucking ellipses? … [snip] It quickly identifies folks who completely agree with my argument and have nothing else to criticize except my puncturating … letting them make fools of themselves and save me the bother … ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2017, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-want-to-eliminate-the-epa/779976/53 "2017-02-16T19:09:34Z")
> [@watchwolf49](#): > > One good thing is that the EPA would not longer impede State DEQs from enacting tough environmental laws … and the other good news is The Donald won’t be violating Federal law gutting the agency … > > But a clever bit of “fake news” … strictly speaking, just introducing legislation doesn’t mean is has passed … only a particularly stupid butthurt snowflake would think this … Jesus fucking Christ people, that committee will be tied up for the next five years trying to get NOAA to backtrack their global warming data … that bill will be sitting on the shelf collecting dust long past the next election … > > C’mon … try to read with comprehension … a little … it doesn’t hurt … trust me … for what possible reason would I have to lie to you? I can’t wade through all your ellipses, I’m afraid. ---
**Author:** ![Crotalus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crotalus/32/41_2.png) [@Crotalus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crotalus)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2017, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-want-to-eliminate-the-epa/779976/54 "2017-02-16T19:22:48Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > I can’t wade through all your ellipses, I’m afraid. Come on, man, I helped you with that in my post above. He said “… … … … … … … … … … … …”. It’s like a quiet version of the bird in Peanuts. ---
**Author:** ![Crotalus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crotalus/32/41_2.png) [@Crotalus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crotalus)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2017, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-want-to-eliminate-the-epa/779976/55 "2017-02-16T19:25:31Z")
> [@watchwolf49](#): > > It quickly identifies folks who completely agree with my argument and have nothing else to criticize except my puncturating … letting them make fools of themselves and save me the bother … Let me get this straight. You use ellipses to make fools of people who completely agree with your argument? I don’t think you need to make the effort. Agreeing with the arguments I’ve seen from you would make a fool of anyone. ---
**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2017, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-want-to-eliminate-the-epa/779976/56 "2017-02-16T20:11:37Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > And they already have 3 co-sponsors. This bill is all but passed… > > Sounds like a few Congresscritters want to brag to their constituents that they drafted a bill to eliminate the EPA. No, of course not. But they passed legislation in the House to end Obamacare about 62 times. But now they are going to do it. The EPA is on their hit list. At some point it very well could be ended as part of some trade-off. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2017, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-want-to-eliminate-the-epa/779976/57 "2017-02-16T20:15:14Z")
> [@Crotalus](#): > > Let me get this straight. You use ellipses to make fools of people who completely agree with your argument? I don’t think you need to make the effort. Agreeing with the arguments I’ve seen from you would make a fool of anyone. I think he uses them because he thinks that it gives him an air of thoughtful musing. It’s mostly just annoying and keeps me from finding out if he anything useful to say. For all I know, he’s a raving liberal. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2017, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-want-to-eliminate-the-epa/779976/58 "2017-02-16T20:16:58Z")
> [@](#): > > I propose the venting begins with a thorough fun-making of co-sponsor Loudermilk’s name! Not part of the Loudermilk Biscuit Band? ---
**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2017, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-want-to-eliminate-the-epa/779976/59 "2017-02-16T20:20:38Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > I can’t wade through all your ellipses, I’m afraid. > [@Crotalus](#): > > Come on, man, I helped you with that in my post above. He said “… … … … … … … … … … … …”. It’s like a quiet version of the bird in Peanuts. Thank you … ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2017, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-want-to-eliminate-the-epa/779976/60 "2017-02-16T20:46:35Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Not part of the Loudermilk Biscuit Band? Isn’t that Powdermilk Biscuits? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-want-to-eliminate-the-epa/779976.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-want-to-eliminate-the-epa/779976.md?page=4)