# Republicans' war on transgender people: Omnibus thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 3, 2022, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609 "2022-06-03T02:20:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2022, 8:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/221 "2022-07-11T08:42:58Z")
It’s not about protecting people who happen to also be women, it’s about power over people, territoriality (protecting “our” women), and enforcing rigid gender roles. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2022, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/222 "2022-07-11T17:47:10Z")
It’s not so so much that they consider transmen to be women as it doesn’t really occur to them that transmen even exist combined with the belief that transgendered people aren’t really people at all. “Protecting women” just sounds better with audiences “_it_ can go putside like an animal”. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2022, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/223 "2022-07-11T17:48:56Z")
Bigots just don’t want people different from them to exist at all. That’s the root of all genocide in human history. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2022, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/224 "2022-07-11T17:51:58Z")
Yes to them, Transmen aren’t men, nor are they women. They are deviant freaks, and protecting women from deviant freaks is a noble cause in their view. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2022, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/225 "2022-07-11T23:44:13Z")
Also, there is a longstanding patriarchal presumption among sexist transphobes that “chivalry” doesn’t apply to women who have transgressed certain norms of female behavior. The fact that somebody they consider a “deviant freak” who needs beating up is also somebody they consider to be intrinsically female is not actually a deterrent to beating them up. On the contrary. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2022, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/226 "2022-07-12T00:59:19Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > The fact that somebody they consider a “deviant freak” who needs beating up is also somebody they consider to be intrinsically female is not actually a deterrent to beating them up. On the contrary. Yes. That is how we get the abomination known as [“corrective rape”](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corrective_rape). ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2022, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/227 "2022-07-15T01:28:56Z")
> > [@](#): > > This is horrible. The GOP just released a national anti-trans bill. It will not pass this year, but this shows their intentions if they win. > > HB8170 would force teachers to: > > - Misgender trans students. > - Out trans kids to their parents. > - Withhold affirming trans kids in therapy. …its all been leading to this. ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2022, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/228 "2022-07-15T01:54:14Z")
“…” ( I think that we all have some people whom we love in our lives and in our families or extended families who have transitioned. If America was a comic book, this would be “The Mutant Registration Act”. We all know the slippery slope where this leads … and those Asshats who cheered this brought toboggans. This bill will have to be fought; it will have to be defeated. And the people who proposed it need to be removed from office. ) ---
**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2022, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/229 "2022-07-15T04:51:20Z")
> [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](#): > > I think that we all have some people whom we love in our lives and in our families or extended families who have transitioned. I can’t think of anybody I know IRL who identifies as transgender. For me this is possibly a side effect of dropping out of college and living in a heavy Republican area with an unusually old population. But as recently as one year ago less than half of Americans were polled as knowing someone who is transgender, and less than half of Americans agreed that a person’s gender could be separate from the sex assigned at birth. > **[Rising shares of U.S. adults know someone who is transgender or goes by...](https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2021/07/27/rising-shares-of-u-s-adults-know-someone-who-is-transgender-or-goes-by-gender-neutral-pronouns/)** > > Americans’ comfort levels with using gender-neutral pronouns to refer to someone have remained static since 2017. ~Max ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2022, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/230 "2022-07-15T05:01:01Z")
Coastal CA, but a friend of my 23yo son transitioned, and I know 3 trans people including a woman I’m dating. I’m appalled that transphobia is the new “gay people want only to recruit or molest your kids” fad revived from the 80’s. ---
**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2022, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/231 "2022-07-15T05:07:11Z")
We’ve obviously come a long way since the 80s, but “gay people want only to recruit or molest your kids” is making the rounds again after it actually happened in our community. ~Max ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2022, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/232 "2022-07-15T05:07:50Z")
> [@Max\_S](#): > > after it actually happened in our community Specify please. Also how that reflects on trans folk if there’s a pedophile of whatever orientation. Do you argue all (many? most?) trans or gay folk are pedophiles? ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2022, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/233 "2022-07-15T05:23:24Z")
> [@Max\_S](#): > > We’ve obviously come a long way since the 80s, but “gay people want only to recruit or molest your kids” is making the rounds again after it actually happened in our community You PM’d me an article about a quite creepy male high school teacher who eventually dated a then- **18yo** (adult!!) male student. I mean, so what? Would it have been okay if the 18yo were a different gender? I don’t know how that even speaks to sexual orientation or gender issues. The solution to creeps in a school system isn’t to suppress orientation or transgender folk. It’s to suppress creeps. You’re seriously misrepresenting this if you think a grown man dating a grown man is “recruiting or molesting your kids”. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2022, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/234 "2022-07-15T05:48:42Z")
But he was one of the Gays! I bet he gave that young man the AIDS after hypnotizing him and tricking him into being gay. Such a promising young life cut so short! And you know where he’s going afterward, no Pearly Gates for that young man. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2022, 7:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/235 "2022-07-15T07:05:49Z")
> [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > > [@](#): > > > > This is horrible. The GOP just released a national anti-trans bill. It will not pass this year, but this shows their intentions if they win. > > > > HB8170 would force teachers to: > > > > - Misgender trans students. > > - Out trans kids to their parents. > > - Withhold affirming trans kids in therapy. > > …its all been leading to this. Sadly, I’m starting to fear that we’re going to wind up at the point of American citizens being put in concentration camps before people start to realize the Republican party doesn’t have their best interests in mind. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2022, 7:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/236 "2022-07-15T07:13:53Z")
The things you would tell the Germans if you could go back in time to 1933 are the things you should be telling Americans now. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2022, 9:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/237 "2022-07-15T09:47:06Z")
Max\_S proving once again that he is either an incredibly stupid piece of shit or a disingenuous bigot trying to spread hate at every opportunity. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2022, 10:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/238 "2022-07-15T10:13:29Z")
Why not both? ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2022, 10:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/239 "2022-07-15T10:16:13Z")
Somehow I keep seeing him as a reincarnated genteel southerner, who’d be politely and eloquently arguing that, legally speaking, Emmet Till deserved killing. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2022, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/240 "2022-07-15T12:29:12Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > The things you would tell the Germans if you could go back in time to 1933 are the things you should be telling Americans now. Yup. Old German immigrants have been saying that since Trump first came on the scene. Of course, trump is mostly a symptom, not the cause. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609.md?page=11) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609.md?page=13)