# Republicans' war on transgender people: Omnibus thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 3, 2022, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609 "2022-06-03T02:20:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 27
**Author:** ![Nightaudit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nightaudit/32/17181_2.png) [@Nightaudit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nightaudit)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2023, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/521 "2023-03-20T18:16:59Z")
This is the next step in their plan for those that don’t fit into their ideal of America. ---
**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2023, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/522 "2023-03-20T18:24:45Z")
It’s time we realize that Republicans don’t like PEOPLE, period. They hate social security, unemployment, heath care and, most of all, all forms of Civil Rights. People have only one purpose for them, and that is to get them into office and into power. That’s it. ---
**Author:** ![Nightaudit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nightaudit/32/17181_2.png) [@Nightaudit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nightaudit)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2023, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/523 "2023-03-20T18:42:22Z")
A lot of the rank and file republicans think that the party leadership wants to take us back to the 1950s, but actually they want to take us back into the gilded age of the 1880s… before universal suffrage, health and safety standards, before antitrust laws and unionized labor. The anti LGBTQ+ is the new rallying cry for them now that they got what they wanted regarding abortion rights. ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2023, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/524 "2023-03-20T19:52:59Z")
> [@Nightaudit](#): > > The anti LGBTQ+ is the new rallying cry for them now that they got what they wanted regarding abortion rights. With Justice Thomas (an oxymoron?) helping point the way there by bringing up _Obergefell_ in his opinion. (Or was that Alito? The fuck difference it makes.) ---
**Author:** ![Nightaudit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nightaudit/32/17181_2.png) [@Nightaudit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nightaudit)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2023, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/525 "2023-03-20T21:11:23Z")
It was Justice Thomas that shat out that turd of judicial wisdom. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2023, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/526 "2023-03-22T03:25:37Z")
[quote=“Superdude, post:513, topic:965609, full:true”] Kentucky has passed the [“worst anti-trans bill in the country.”](https://www.thepinknews.com/2023/03/18/kentucky-passes-the-worst-anti-trans-bill-in-america/) From the article: > [@](#): > > Senate Bill 150 seeks to ban gender-affirming healthcare for trans youth, requires doctors to detransition young trans people and **prevents schools from discussing gender identity or sexual orientation with students of any age.** > > [/quote]. > > Emphasis mine in the quote. Kentucky has past the worst anti-trans bill _so far_, at this point it’s clear it’s a contest. This wasn’t real life it would be hilarious for schools to actually try to comply this this. Among other things students and faculty could need to apply with a dress cide that conceals _all_ primary and secondary sexual characteristics (so burqas ). Absolutly no use of gendered pronouns or titles, both in speech or learning materials. The same for given names if they indicate gender (which is nearly all of them, at least in Western culture). And of course everyone must only change clothes or use the bathroom one at a time in single user facilities. To be safe all school sports should be eliminated. School nurses would have the hardest job of all. What happens when Student Doe unexpectedly experiences odd cramps or blood like genital dischare on school grounds? > [@Nightaudit](#): > > A lot of the rank and file republicans think that the party leadership wants to take us back to the 1950s, but actually they want to take us back into the gilded age of the 1880s… before universal suffrage, health and safety standards, before antitrust laws and unionized labor. The anti LGBTQ+ is the new rallying cry for them now that they got what they wanted regarding abortion rights Actually many of the abortion bans ~~proposed~~ actually passed into law are more extreme than any the US (or common-law world) had in the ~~1880s~~ Middle Ages. ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2023, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/527 "2023-03-22T16:17:16Z")
According [TO HERE](https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/publications/trans-adults-united-states/), Transgendered people make up 1.6 Million, not even 1/2 of a percentage point of our population. That is 1/2 of a percent of EVERY AMERICAN. That includes the loud hippie chick in Seattle, it includes the quiet boy working a gas station in Alabama. Very bold of the GOP to assume though that transgendered people only vote for liberal candidates. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2023, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/528 "2023-03-22T16:25:51Z")
> [@Sitnam](#): > > Very bold of the GOP to assume though that transgendered people only vote for liberal candidates. Isn’t it more that the GOP definition of “liberal” appears to encompass anyone who would suffer them to live? ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2023, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/529 "2023-03-22T16:27:35Z")
Fine, vitriol aside it is just a very odd strategy. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2023, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/530 "2023-03-22T16:32:34Z")
Not really. As you note, there are very few trans people in the US. Even if exactly half of trans people would vote Republican if the GOP wasn’t virulently transphobic, that’s still less than a million votes. If they can motivate ten million people to go to the polls by being bigots to trans people, that more than offsets the ~0.8 million they lose by alienating conservative trans people. ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2023, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/531 "2023-03-22T16:35:45Z")
Sure, but it’s not a solid long term strategy, as evidenced by the overwhelming success of Gay Marriage even in conservative states. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2023, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/532 "2023-03-22T16:41:17Z")
It doesn’t need to be long term. The GOP’s long term strategy is to so completely undermine democratic rule in this country that it doesn’t matter how popular their policies are. If hating trans people is enough to carry them through one more election cycle so they can continue that work, that’s makes it worthwhile in their books. ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2023, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/533 "2023-03-22T16:48:36Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > It doesn’t need to be long term. The GOP’s long term strategy is to so completely undermine democratic rule in this country Sure, I agree some people in the GOP are actively trying to do this. I don’t feel the majority of a group properly elected to any position would be in any hurry, collectively, to dismantle the system that did it. Conservative voters have an incredible edge in national and local elections and I see no way that will change any time soon. So you and I will have to disagree then on degree. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2023, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/534 "2023-03-22T16:53:22Z")
> [@Sitnam](#): > > I don’t feel the majority of a group properly elected to any position would be in any hurry, collectively, to dismantle the system that did it. Conservative voters have an incredible edge in national and local elections and I see no way that will change any time soon. How do you think they got that “incredible edge” in national and local elections in the first place? When I say, “undermine Democratic rule in America,” I don’t mean, “Declare Donald Trump Dictator-for-Life,” I mean, “Continue to gerrymander and suppress voters so that only voters who vote R actually count.” ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2023, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/535 "2023-03-22T17:07:43Z")
The majority doesn’t have to actively support the dismantling of the system-All they have to do is stand aside and let the minority that hold the actual power do the job, then reap the benefits. ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2023, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/536 "2023-03-22T17:22:43Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > > [@Sitnam](#): > > > > I don’t feel the majority of a group properly elected to any position would be in any hurry, collectively, to dismantle the system that did it. Conservative voters have an incredible edge in national and local elections and I see no way that will change any time soon. > > How do you think they got that “incredible edge” in national and local elections in the first place? When I say, “undermine Democratic rule in America,” I don’t mean, “Declare Donald Trump Dictator-for-Life,” I mean, “Continue to gerrymander and suppress voters so that only voters who vote R actually count.” A Wyoming resident gets more of a say in government than a person from New Jersey, for good or ill that was decided at the birth of our nation. It so happens the GOP wants the Wyoming resident to vote and doesn’t care about the dude from New Jersey. I have no idea what you’re on about. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2023, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/537 "2023-03-22T17:34:33Z")
> [@Sitnam](#): > > I have no idea what you’re on about. What part of “voter suppression and gerrymandering” confused you? ---
**Author:** ![Nightaudit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nightaudit/32/17181_2.png) [@Nightaudit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nightaudit)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2023, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/538 "2023-03-22T17:38:26Z")
Well the party hijacked by preacher Quint and his inbred family for the last decade or so… ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2023, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/539 "2023-03-22T17:43:20Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > > [@Sitnam](#): > > > > I have no idea what you’re on about. > > What part of “voter suppression and gerrymandering” confused you? The amount doing this. For you, it’s the GOP, for me it’s some people in the GOP. I gave my reasons why it makes no sense for even a majority to think this way, your refutation is approaching Der Trihs level of axe to grind. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2023, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/540 "2023-03-22T17:54:10Z")
> [@Sitnam](#): > > The amount doing this. For you, it’s the GOP, for me it’s some people in the GOP. Yes, only “some parts” - those parts being the political leadership and elected officials, who are never rebuked by the party as a whole, or by the electorate that supports them. > [@Sitnam](#): > > I gave my reasons why it makes no sense for even a majority to think this way, your refutation is approaching Der Trihs level of axe to grind. Yeah, but your reasoning there was fucking stupid, so I don’t think it really counts. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609.md?page=26) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609.md?page=28)