# Republicans' war on transgender people: Omnibus thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 3, 2022, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609 "2022-06-03T02:20:27Z")\
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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2023, 8:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/781 "2023-05-02T08:34:14Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> IIRC, the witness’s wife is a rabbi. That probably freaked out the bigot-in-question too.

MTG should be careful, or the Jewish Space Lasers will come for her.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2023, 10:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/782 "2023-05-02T10:22:54Z")

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By now, seriously, someone must have created an online game with Hasidim, Rabbis, and other assorted obviously Jewish people walking around with lasers shooting out of their eyes to destroy the MAGA “heros”.

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**Post date:** [May 2, 2023, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/783 "2023-05-02T17:25:28Z")

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**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2023, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/784 "2023-05-02T21:02:42Z")

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Hm. Saw a video on youtube by Thai Rivera on an Indiana Councelman saying he identifies as a woman of color. This cannot be appropiation. Either people should be treated as they identify, or maybe we can humor them, hoping they get counselling.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2023, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/785 "2023-05-02T21:33:16Z")

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Thai Rivera is a Trump-supporting standup comedian. Probably not the best inspiration for your political views, or to get news from.

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**Author:** ![eschrodinger](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschrodinger/32/122_2.png) [@eschrodinger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschrodinger)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2023, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/786 "2023-05-02T21:42:53Z")

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I think the best way to treat what is almost certainly trolling is to treat it completely seriously, as you would with anyone.

She probably wants a reaction of trans people and allies to go apoplectic over it. But, the way to make our point is to treat her with compassion, empathy, and offer her help and perhaps some tips. I bet she drops it after no more than a couple of days (maybe just hours) of female pronouns.

I’m tempted to say folks should send her tucking tips and gender affirming surgery info, but no one should be sent that stuff unsolicited.

But anyway, refuse to take the bait, don’t feed the troll, the “joke” is never really funny. I mean, beyond the “hur hur, he’s a big straight white guy, and he says he’s actually a lesbian black woman – that’s hilarious!” -coming from her own side. But they think anyone being trans is funny in that way, I think. Or, at least any guy is.

And, who knows. We know some of the most virulent homophobes have been repressed gay people. Probably some of the most virulent transphobes are actually trans people deep down.

Note: I say some, because I don’t think it’s all, and I really hate that trope when it’s taken too far. But I don’t think it’s fully wrong. Nothing is quite so threatening as acceptance of something you repress, deny, and hate, about yourself.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2023, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/787 "2023-05-02T22:04:19Z")

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> [@eschrodinger](#):
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> I think the best way to treat what is almost certainly trolling is to treat it completely seriously, as you would with anyone.

Just like how we should always refer to Ted Cruz by asshole’s preferred pronouns.

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**Post date:** [May 2, 2023, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/788 "2023-05-02T22:25:42Z")

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> [@SuntanLotion](#):
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> maybe we can humor them, hoping they get counselling.

Umm, who are we humoring hoping they get counseling? And counseling for what?

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**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2023, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/789 "2023-05-03T01:28:34Z")

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He really supports Trump? I’m surprised. I like his “takes” on things. Not to hijack, but what if someone actually felt like they were another race? They shouldnt be insulted for it, though it seems this councilperson was just trying for publicity.  
I’ve heard Trump indentifies are “president.” (Currently)I wonder if any in his circle play along.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2023, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/790 "2023-05-03T02:11:14Z")

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> [@SuntanLotion](#):
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> He really supports Trump? I’m surprised.

> **[Episode #30: Thai Rivera, comedian and Trump supporter stops in for a...](https://allthingscomedy.com/podcasts/episode-30-thai-rivera-comedian-and-trump-supporter-stops-in-for-a-spirited-coversation)**
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> Comedian, and Trump supporter, Thai Rivera talks to Josh about what it is about Trump he likes so much, why (as a Mexican-American) he supports the Donald, what it was like telling his parents he was gay, the importance of standing up for yourself...

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**Author:** ![kanicbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f8ce5/32.png) [@kanicbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kanicbird)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2023, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/791 "2023-05-17T23:00:17Z")

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Is there any notable aesthetic difference in the final appearance if a child was transitioned before natural puberty vs given puberty blockers till age of majority then transitioned?

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**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2023, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/792 "2023-05-18T01:58:41Z")

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New bill in Florida. Fuck Ron DeSantis.

> **[DeSantis signs slew of anti-transgender rights measures into law, affecting...](https://www.businessinsider.com/desantis-authorizes-slew-of-anti-trans-laws-in-florida-2023-5)**
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> One of the new laws criminalizes instances in which people use bathrooms that don't match the gender they were assigned at birth.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2023, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/793 "2023-05-18T04:06:45Z")

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And how is this supposed to be enforced?

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2023, 8:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/794 "2023-05-18T08:29:30Z")

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By angry violent busybodies.

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**Post date:** [May 18, 2023, 8:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/795 "2023-05-18T08:30:08Z")

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> [@kanicbird](#):
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> Is there any notable aesthetic difference in the final appearance if a child was transitioned before natural puberty vs given puberty blockers till age of majority then transitioned?

About the only difference that would make is a slightly taller person at the end of the process, growth in height would continue until puberty is finished. Otherwise no, to the best of my knowledge.

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**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2023, 8:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/796 "2023-05-18T08:43:18Z")

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> [@ekedolphin](#):
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> New bill in Florida. Fuck Ron DeSantis.
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> [DeSantis Authorizes Slew of Anti-Trans Laws in Florida](https://www.businessinsider.com/desantis-authorizes-slew-of-anti-trans-laws-in-florida-2023-5)

So… bearded burly trans men will now be using the women’s toilet? Or has DeSantis forgotten those folks exist?

How, exactly, is this supposed to work? Everyone has to bring their birth certificate and government-issued ID to the toilet? Or only certain people? Will there be “Good Christian” busy-bodies stationed at the door of every public toilet in Florida to enforce this?

Not only is DeSantis passing ideologically-based hateful laws, the laws aren’t clear the details which mean arbitrary enforcement. What a shit-show.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2023, 8:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/797 "2023-05-18T08:53:23Z")

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> [@Broomstick](#):
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> he laws aren’t clear the details which mean arbitrary enforcement

Just like the Bible. He probably believes that the Lord intended things to be that way and that the Lord chose him to right all these horrible wrongs created by his fevered imagination.

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**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2023, 8:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/798 "2023-05-18T08:58:08Z")

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Or he’s just taking advantage of hatred and bigotry to further his own personal power.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2023, 9:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/799 "2023-05-18T09:13:54Z")

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It’s what Jesus would have wanted.

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**Post date:** [May 18, 2023, 10:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/800 "2023-05-18T10:01:33Z")

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The cruelty is the point.

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