# Republicans' war on transgender people: Omnibus thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 3, 2022, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609 "2022-06-03T02:20:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 44
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2023, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/861 "2023-05-23T17:44:02Z")
> [@](#): > > In Mississippi a gender-nonconforming girl was told to walk in her underwear because she’d come to the graduation wearing pants. How are these school officials not in jail for this? ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2023, 9:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/862 "2023-05-24T09:39:54Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > How are these school officials not in jail for this? Who’s going to arrest and charge them? Local Mississippi law enforcement? They’d probably help strip her. ---
**Author:** ![crsgse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/977dab/32.png) [@crsgse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crsgse)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2023, 9:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/863 "2023-05-24T09:58:04Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > Ohio is trying to pass legislation [requiring any student, at any time, to submit to an unwanted inspection of their internal and external reproductive anatomy](https://www.news5cleveland.com/news/politics/ohio-politics/ohio-gop-passes-bill-aiming-to-root-out-suspected-transgender-female-athletes-through-genital-inspection) Coming from Italy I got my dick unwantedly inspected by a doctor when I was in middle school… This was for medical reasons but if Ohio is doing this just for political reason I think that might be yet another way to throw shit at the LGBT community ---
**Author:** ![InternetLegend](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/internetlegend/32/13154_2.png) [@InternetLegend](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/InternetLegend)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2023, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/864 "2023-05-24T19:42:04Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > Yeesh. They really don’t want anyone even a little different from “normative”, i guess. > > It wouldn’t have occurred to me that a girl couldn’t walk in pants. My older daughter’s (public) high school had a graduation dress code that forbade girls wearing pants - in 2008! I was prepared to go to the mat for her on this one, but the activities director told me, “I’m pretty sure I’ll be too busy to inspect the ankles of honor students” and the dress code was changed the following spring. That’s the difference, of course, that a reasonable school makes changes when an antiquated rule is challenged, but I’d thought we’d win that battle in the 70’s ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2023, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/865 "2023-05-26T03:23:13Z")
…just a quick credit when due: a big shout-out and thanks to Republican Senator Fred Mills who voted _against_ Louisiana House Bill 648, killing the bill. The Republicans had a one seat majority. > [@Illuminator](#): > > State Sen. Fred Mills is the latest target of national conservative activists after bucking the Republican Party by [voting to kill a proposed ban on gender-affirming healthcare](https://lailluminator.com/2023/05/24/trans-youth-healthcare-ban-killed-in-louisiana-giving-lgbtq-community-a-rare-win/) for transgender youth But he’s not worried about it. > > “Why should I?,” Mills said in an interview after he broke a tie vote Wednesday in the Louisiana Senate Health and Welfare Committee. “They don’t live in District 22. They don’t have a 337 area code.” > > “I didn’t run for office to serve those people,” added Mills, a GOP member and pharmacist who represents portions of four rural parishes and New Iberia. > **[Louisiana lawmaker who bucked GOP on gender-affirming care ban unfazed by...](https://lailluminator.com/2023/05/25/louisiana-lawmaker-who-bucked-gop-on-gender-affirming-care-ban-unphased-by-national-critics/)** > > Fred Mills is unfazed by attacks from national conservative activists after he voted to kill a gender affirming care ban for trans youth > [@erin in the morning](#): > > However, on Wednesday, Louisiana bucked this trend. Louisiana became the only state in the Southeast and one of only four states with Republican trifectas to defeat such a ban in its legislature. > > … > > When [asked why he voted against the bill](https://lailluminator.com/2023/05/25/louisiana-lawmaker-who-bucked-gop-on-gender-affirming-care-ban-unphased-by-national-critics/), he cited a [Louisiana Department of Health report](https://ldh.la.gov/assets/docs/LegisReports/HR158_2022RS_LDHReport.pdf) commissioned in 2022 and released earlier this year that returned strong findings in support of gender affirming care. > > “My decision was really, really based on the numbers. All the testimony I heard by the proponents that children are getting mutilated, I didn’t see it in the statistics,” Mills said [in an interview](https://www.thepinknews.com/2023/05/25/louisiana-fred-mills-matt-walsh/). > > The findings of the Louisiana Department of Health when looking at their medicaid data and summarizing research were extensive. Importantly, they found that zero surgeries were ever done on minors in the state, puberty blockers were exceedingly rare, regret rates were extremely low, and trans youth had positive mental health outcomes. They also compared consent to transgender care to many other forms of care where medical consent on the behalf of youth is allowed. > **[Bombshell Louisiana Report Led To Republican Senator Rejecting Youth Trans Ban](https://www.erininthemorning.com/p/bombshell-louisiana-report-led-to)** > > A Republican Senator voted against a gender affirming care ban in Louisiana. Today, it was revealed he did so because of a bombshell Louisiana report showing the care is safe and effective. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2023, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/866 "2023-05-26T04:58:04Z")
He pays attention to facts and wants to properly serve his constituents? How can he call himself a Republican?! ---
**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2023, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/867 "2023-05-29T17:46:34Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > How, exactly, is this supposed to work? Everyone has to bring their birth certificate and government-issued ID to the toilet? Or only certain people? Will there be “Good Christian” busy-bodies stationed at the door of every public toilet in Florida to enforce this? Some stores and malls here in Florida have bathroom guards, for example Ross (not sure if they have them in other states). Many others have bathroom keys so the employee has to give you the right key. > [@eschrodinger](#): > > I wonder how this is going to work. Before this law, there was/is a multistate compact for juvenile jurisdiction. All of the states agreed on how and when a state would have jurisdiction over a child. If there’s an existing custody agreement from one state, then I think typically a different state would not be allowed to take jurisdiction over the child except in certain circumstances when the child is present in the other state. I’m not remembering all the details, but I’m wondering if FL just blew up that compact. It seems to be a bad summary of the law by **Banquet\_Bear** ’s cite. From what I can tell - and not a lawyer here - it only applies when the child is physically present in the state, and custody has _already_ been determined in the petitioner’s favor. I.e. if mom (or whoever) has physical custody, then loses legal custody, normally the courts would not need to issue a warrant for physical custody of the child. But the legal guardian can petition the court for a warrant if they can show a risk of mom (or whoever): fleeing the state with kid, or harming the kid. The new law adds medical transitioning to that list. ~Max ---
**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2023, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/868 "2023-05-29T17:52:02Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > > [@](#): > > > > In Mississippi a gender-nonconforming girl was told to walk in her underwear because she’d come to the graduation wearing pants. > > How are these school officials not in jail for this? They mean under the full-body gown. When I was in high school, they had ugly sweatpants for kids who didn’t meet dress code. ~Max ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2023, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/869 "2023-05-29T17:54:08Z")
> [@Max\_S](#): > > > [@Broomstick](#): > > > > How, exactly, is this supposed to work? Everyone has to bring their birth certificate and government-issued ID to the toilet? Or only certain people? Will there be “Good Christian” busy-bodies stationed at the door of every public toilet in Florida to enforce this? > > Some stores and malls here in Florida have bathroom guards, for example Ross (not sure if they have them in other states). Many others have bathroom keys so the employee has to give you the right key. I’ve seen keys at convenience stores and gas stations. I can’t recall ever seeing a bathroom guard in the US. I guess the lady who takes your coin and checks to make sure there’s soap and toilet paper in many European restrooms is a guard, too. Most of the grocery stores near me have changed their signage to have two unisex restrooms, instead of the men’s and women’s room they used to have. ---
**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2023, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/870 "2023-05-29T18:07:34Z")
Maybe it’s a regional thing? In my hometown mall the food court mall cops have been stationed at the bathroom entrances since I was a toddler. I always presumed it was to discourage drug use. Likewise many department stores have an attendant for the fitting rooms, and some require the attendant to unlock the bathroom for you. To make sure you aren’t shoplifting I guess. Ross is the only national chain I can think of with the latter scheme. I don’t think I’ve encountered it outside of Florida, and within memory I’ve been to a few department stores in Missouri. ~Max ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2023, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/871 "2023-05-29T18:35:08Z")
> [@Max\_S](#): > > They mean under the full-body gown. Which everyone puts on over their regular clothes, on-site in the midst of all of the other graduates and at least some of the faculty. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2023, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/872 "2023-05-29T18:48:22Z")
> [@Max\_S](#): > > > [@Chronos](#): > > > > > [@](#): > > > > > > In Mississippi a gender-nonconforming girl was told to walk in her underwear because she’d come to the graduation wearing pants. > > > > How are these school officials not in jail for this? > > They mean under the full-body gown. > > When I was in high school, they had ugly sweatpants for kids who didn’t meet dress code. > > ~Max Do you really want to be seen as supporting the notion that walking in her underwear is less of a dress code violation than wearing fucking pants? ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2023, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/873 "2023-05-29T19:05:42Z")
Yeah, asking her to strip down to underwear in front of a lot of people sounds like a really bad idea. Also, we put on our caps and gowns before we got together. That’s when parents photograph their kids. But honestly, the idea of enforcing any dress code under the goen5, which cover everything, strikes me as absurd. ---
**Author:** ![eschrodinger](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschrodinger/32/122_2.png) [@eschrodinger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschrodinger)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2023, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/874 "2023-05-29T19:19:42Z")
People might see that her ankles were covered by her pant cuffs, instead of bare or covered only by stockings/pantyhose like God intended! /S And yeah, they’re the ones so concerned about what’s under the gowns. Their critics are saying, who cares what clothes they have on? You can’t really tell anyway. Even if they made provision for her to change in private, how can they think it’s more appropriate for her to walk in underwear than pants? It’s humiliating someone and making them be clothed very inappropriately to give the illusion of wearing a skirt. I wonder if they’d have been OK with her wearing shorts. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2023, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/875 "2023-05-30T02:33:03Z")
It’s exactly like those idiots who, when they believe women are not being “modest enough”, rape the women. Of course, the rapists is not being “sexually pure” or “chaste”, but that’s okay since they need to do that to exact the “proper” punishment on the woman. It’s no longer hyperbole to refer to the Republican party as America’s Taliban. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2023, 7:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/876 "2023-05-30T07:12:07Z")
> [@Max\_S](#): > > Some stores and malls here in Florida have bathroom guards, for example Ross (not sure if they have them in other states). 😲 WTF? _Bathroom guards?_ Are you serious? > [@Max\_S](#): > > Maybe it’s a regional thing? In my hometown mall the food court mall cops have been stationed at the bathroom entrances since I was a toddler. Where do you live? Because that’s absolutely bizarre. What sort of society is that? How long have you needed guards on bathrooms there? I have literally never heard of this before. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2023, 7:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/877 "2023-05-30T07:16:54Z")
> [@Max\_S](#): > > Likewise many department stores have an attendant for the fitting rooms, and some require the attendant to unlock the bathroom for you. To make sure you aren’t shoplifting I guess. Fitting room attendants are pretty universal, I guess. I’ve lived in a few places in the US and I’ve always encountered them. The only place where I’ve ever run into bathrooms with keys are small gas stations and the like. Sometimes fast food places in sketchy areas might have a bathroom code that you only get if you order food, to discourage homeless people and/or junkies from doing drugs or vandalizing them. But as I said, those are bad areas typically with that kind of policy. The grocery store I do most of my shopping at these days has a problem with people misusing their restrooms after hours and lock the door to the public now from 9PM-7 AM. > [@Max\_S](#): > > I don’t think I’ve encountered it outside of Florida, and within memory I’ve been to a few department stores in Missouri. It _definitely_ sounds like a Florida thing. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2023, 7:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/878 "2023-05-30T07:26:46Z")
Florida, man. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2023, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/879 "2023-05-31T15:47:26Z")
There are keys for some public restrooms around here, especially cheap restaurants in poor neighborhoods. It’s got nothing to do with trans issues, more about “restrooms are for paying customers only.” ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2023, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/880 "2023-05-31T17:13:08Z")
And also to make it harder to do drug deals in the restroom. Yeah, I’ve seen that, mostly in places where those are realistic problems. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609.md?page=43) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609.md?page=45)