# Republicans' war on transgender people: Omnibus thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 3, 2022, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609 "2022-06-03T02:20:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 47
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2023, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/921 "2023-06-09T19:55:01Z")
Membership in the “tribe” - that is, whether or not you’re Jewish - [is matrilineal](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matrilineality_in_Judaism) but only since the 1st Century AD. Prior to that, and up to modern times, paternity was a known concept and recognized, and even today [Karaite Jews reckon descent only via the father and do not accept matrilineal descent from mixed marriages.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matrilineality_in_Judaism#Karaite_Judaism) You can also see this in naming conventions among Hebrew speakers which can take the form of [name] [son of] [name]. As an example: Mosheh ben Maimon, better known to history as Maimonides. The “ben” part is the “son of”. So… if the Jews of the time considered Jesus to have been born out of wedlock he might have been referred to as “son of Mary” (more like ben Mirriam or the like), but if Joseph was considered his father nonetheless he would have been “son of Joseph”. Probably for some Christians who insist Jesus was the son of their god they would avoid the latter form, but there’s actually very little documentation of this sort of thing in the life of Jesus of Nazareth (which might also be how he was commonly referred to) so who really knows? I don’t think anyone doubted he was Jewish at the time. ---
**Author:** ![bengangmo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@bengangmo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bengangmo)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2023, 11:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/922 "2023-06-16T11:00:23Z")
For the purposes of this law, would the movies White Chicks, Tootsie and Mrs. Doubtfire all be illegal? Could they be shown in cinemas, And for that matter, would [Just one of the Guys](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just_One_of_the_Guys) also be illegal? ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2023, 11:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/923 "2023-06-16T11:40:05Z")
Also, She’s the Man, and the whole Bosom Buddies series. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2023, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/924 "2023-06-16T12:28:34Z")
I’ve wondered that as well. ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2023, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/925 "2023-06-17T04:02:13Z")
It’s not about policy, it’s about being given public permission to hate. > **[Donald Trump just admitted what the GOP’s anti-trans agenda is all about](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/donald-trump-just-admitted-what-the-gop-s-anti-trans-agenda-is-all-about/vi-AA1cEdVM?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=6bcb2d6464fa4d3895d33c42dd6f3be6&ei=2)** > > It's no secret that Republicans love riling up hateful culture wars. But in a recent campaign speech, Trump spelled out the cynicism behind that strategy... and, Mehdi says, he channeled past bigoted politicos to do it. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2023, 7:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/926 "2023-06-19T07:53:38Z")
Gift link: > **[Inside a conservative confab for young women, where feminism is a lie](https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/2023/06/15/inside-conservative-confab-young-women-where-feminism-is-lie/?pwapi_token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWJpZCI6Ijc4NTU0ODAiLCJyZWFzb24iOiJnaWZ0IiwibmJmIjoxNjg3MTQ3MjAwLCJpc3MiOiJzdWJzY3JpcHRpb25zIiwiZXhwIjoxNjg4NDQzMTk5LCJpYXQiOjE2ODcxNDcyMDAsImp0aSI6IjBhZTM3YWNjLWVmYTktNDNmYS04NDRhLTc4ZTA0YjRkZDg2ZCIsInVybCI6Imh0dHBzOi8vd3d3Lndhc2hpbmd0b25wb3N0LmNvbS9saWZlc3R5bGUvMjAyMy8wNi8xNS9pbnNpZGUtY29uc2VydmF0aXZlLWNvbmZhYi15b3VuZy13b21lbi13aGVyZS1mZW1pbmlzbS1pcy1saWUvIn0.0FP-4uefGn0W1Fdvqd2iS1pFzFzpb6ecZfNewQ8bojQ&itid=gfta)** > > For the modern MAGA woman, happiness might mean being a “trad wife,” fearing trans women and buying anti-woke tampons. > What does it mean to be young, female and conservative in America, 2023? > … > Perhaps most of all, it means seeing transgender women as a grave threat to womanhood. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2023, 9:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/927 "2023-06-19T09:38:29Z")
I’m still puzzling over the notion of “anti-woke” tampons. I mean, I read the words and all, and they are English words, but the concept of it is just weird to me. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2023, 11:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/928 "2023-06-19T11:35:48Z")
Tampons sold by companies that assure you they are only for “real women”. And that otherwise espouse anti-woke philosophy. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2023, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/929 "2023-06-19T12:00:44Z")
Oh, I get that _intellectually_. As I said, they are English words assembled into a sentence. I just don’t get the sentiment behind it on an emotional level. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2023, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/930 "2023-06-19T12:28:06Z")
I had no idea how a tampon could be “anti-woke” until i read the article. They revel in fearing trans women. It’s incredibly depressing. ---
**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2023, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/931 "2023-06-19T14:13:42Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > They revel in fearing trans women. It’s incredibly depressing. It seems similar to the zealots who asserted that gay marriage would destroy the institution of heterosexual marriage. Huh? How so? How about you just mind your own business? ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2023, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/932 "2023-06-19T14:23:18Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > They revel in fearing trans women. Probably trans men, in this case. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2023, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/933 "2023-06-19T15:49:20Z")
With the tampons, yes. But there’s a lot more in the article, and in general, hating on trans women. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2023, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/934 "2023-06-19T17:26:56Z")
I don’t think the tampon itself is in any way “anti-woke”, it’s just manufactured by an “anti-woke” company. So you can rest assured that your money is funding the kind of hatred you hold dear. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2023, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/935 "2023-06-20T03:03:54Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > I don’t think the tampon itself is in any way “anti-woke” Yeah, neither the manufacturer nor the retailer has any way of controlling how the purchaser uses the tampons, AFAICT. I know people who’ve used tampons as sterile bottle stoppers for liquids in chemistry labs. No idea whether that counts as “woke”. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_McQwark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4da419/32.png) [@Steve\_McQwark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_McQwark)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2023, 11:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/936 "2023-06-20T11:31:34Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > I know people who’ve used tampons as sterile bottle stoppers for liquids in chemistry labs. No idea whether that counts as “woke”. If it’s Victor Frankenstein’s lab, the chemicals in the bottles might cause the tampons to become woke. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2023, 10:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/937 "2023-06-21T10:22:43Z")
What would that even mean? You’re in a lab and suddenly a tampon starts screaming _“AAAAAAAAAAAGH! I’m a tampon and my ass is stuck in a test tube!”?_ I’d think it would be kinder if it never “woke” up. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2023, 10:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/938 "2023-06-21T10:56:59Z")
The Screaming Tampons is a band name if I ever heard one. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2023, 11:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/939 "2023-06-21T11:46:10Z")
I’m imaging that happening in the _World of Warcraft_ Undercity in a lab run by a cackling Undead. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2023, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/940 "2023-06-21T17:15:21Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > I don’t think the tampon itself is in any way “anti-woke”, it’s just manufactured by an “anti-woke” company. So you can rest assured that your money is funding the kind of hatred you hold dear. Or possibly by a company that doesn’t give a fuck one way or another about transgender people but recognizes that if they market their products as anti-woke lots of bigots will pay extra to buy them. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609.md?page=46) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609.md?page=48)