# Republicans' war on transgender people: Omnibus thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 3, 2022, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609 "2022-06-03T02:20:27Z")\
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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2023, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/941 "2023-06-21T19:42:25Z")

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AKA “hatewashing”.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2023, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/942 "2023-06-21T22:34:21Z")

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I went to a dance last night. A couple of trans women were there. Such harmless people. Just a pair of young women giggling and having fun. This thread is so depressing. People hating, with no idea of what they are hating. Just hating… I dunno, to make themselves feel better. I just want to cry.

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**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2023, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/943 "2023-06-22T02:11:09Z")

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…recent cases that have gone to Federal Court have been heartening.

[https://edition.cnn.com/2023/06/20/politics/arkansas-transgender-treatments-medical-ban-blocked/index.html](https://edition.cnn.com/2023/06/20/politics/arkansas-transgender-treatments-medical-ban-blocked/index.html)

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> In an 80-page ruling, Judge James M. Moody Jr. said that the state’s “Save Adolescents from Experimentation Act” violated the US Constitution and that the 2021 law cannot be enforced by state officials.
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> “Rather than protecting children or safeguarding medical ethics, the evidence showed that the prohibited medical care improves the mental health and well-being of patients and that, by prohibiting it, the State undermined the interests it claims to be advancing,” the judge wrote.
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> “This victory shows that these laws, when tested by evidence, **are indefensible under any standard of constitutional review**.

That last sentence (bolding mine), is the most important point. These laws _won’t_ hold up under scrutiny. So its back to the states to see what they do next.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2023, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/944 "2023-06-22T02:59:49Z")

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> [@Banquet\_Bear](#):
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> So its back to the states to see what they do next.

My guess is that they’ll try to change the laws to be less blatant but indirectly do the same thing.

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2023, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/945 "2023-06-22T03:01:49Z")

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> [@puzzlegal](#):
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> This thread is so depressing. People hating, with no idea of what they are hating.

I know some fellow blue-staters who have taken in transgender family members who are literal refugees from the oppressive legislation and toxic levels of transphobia in Republican areas.

The one bright spot in all this is that at least this time, unlike with racism and homophobia, it didn’t take most of the non-conservatives several decades to get around to explicitly repudiating the bigotry of the conservatives.

(Another bright spot, if you’re looking for little victories in this fight, is literally a victory in a fight. Namely, the recent win of the transgender male boxer Patricio Manuel in a bout with a cisgender male boxer. For the third time running, no less.

Something to discuss with transphobes when they start bleating how biological birth sex is an irrevocable determinant of force and strength, and there’s no way that AFAB individuals can ever compete fairly with AMAB ones irrespective of transgender status.)

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2023, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/946 "2023-06-22T03:05:22Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> My guess is that they’ll try to change the laws to be less blatant but indirectly do the same thing.

Or take it to SCOTUS and throw in a few fishing trips.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2023, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/947 "2023-06-22T03:20:20Z")

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> Or take it to SCOTUS and throw in a few fishing trips.

Ugh, yeah. A favorable verdict is only as far as the Crow flies.

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**Author:** ![Mr.E](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.e/32/8932_2.png) [@Mr.E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.E)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2023, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/948 "2023-06-28T21:48:26Z")

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> [@Kimstu](#):
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> I know some fellow blue-staters who have taken in transgender family members who are literal refugees from the oppressive legislation and toxic levels of transphobia in Republican areas.

I have a trans nephew in Florida who hasn’t told his parents or any other adults for fear of repercussions. I’m glad he has us to turn to, but unfortunately we live in a nearby southern state that isn’t much better than Florida.

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**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2023, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/949 "2023-07-02T04:23:04Z")

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> [@Mr.E](#):
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> I have a trans nephew in Florida who hasn’t told his parents or any other adults for fear of repercussions. I’m glad he has us to turn to, but unfortunately we live in a nearby southern state that isn’t much better than Florida

God, that’s awful. I feel for that kid. 😕

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2023, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/950 "2023-07-02T05:01:55Z")

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In my experience as an EMT, both tampons and pads can be extremely beneficial when you have major trauma. They both soak up a lot of blood.

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**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2023, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/951 "2023-07-02T05:05:04Z")

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What was that movie with the nosebleed tampon scene? _She’s the Man_?

~Max

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**Author:** ![Mr.E](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.e/32/8932_2.png) [@Mr.E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.E)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2023, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/952 "2023-07-02T18:57:38Z")

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Tampons are also pretty good for cleaning out a shotgun barrel, possibly the least “woke” use for a Tampon imaginable.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2023, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/953 "2023-07-02T19:36:56Z")

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> [@Superdude](#):
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> In my experience as an EMT, both tampons and pads can be extremely beneficial when you have major trauma.

As a Black Rock Ranger I carry a Kotex pad and gloves in a ziplock bag. Medical response time in the city is four minutes, six for deep playa, but I have this nightmare of having someone bleed out before help can arrive.

Reading the history, they were invented by Kimberley-Clark during WWI as bandages then repurposed after Armistice Day when people stopped shooting holes in each other so often.

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**Author:** ![WolfpackJeep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpackjeep/32/2921_2.png) [@WolfpackJeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WolfpackJeep)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2023, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/954 "2023-07-03T19:59:05Z")

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I must have missed something; I thought that the crowd most likely to start whining about WOOOOOOKE things used to decry tampons as tools of Satan.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2023, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/955 "2023-07-04T20:23:45Z")

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I’ve heard and [read that the Epoch Times is a very right-wing and pro-Trump newspaper](https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2021/01/inside-the-epoch-times-a-mysterious-pro-trump-newspaper/617645/). If that’s accurate, then [this “docudrama” called _Gender Transformation_ by the Epoch certainly seems to count](https://www.theepochtimes.com/gender-transformation_5280005.html). I’ve not watched it, so I’m happy to be proven wrong.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2023, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/956 "2023-07-04T20:37:10Z")

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That “docudrama” is a hateful attack. [Gender Transformation](https://www.gendertransformation.com/)

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2023, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/957 "2023-07-04T20:39:19Z")

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I thought so just based on the description I read. I see on review I should have written “seems to count as part of the war” in my post.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2023, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/958 "2023-07-04T20:42:28Z")

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I like that the people ‘’‘reviewing’‘’ that dreck, coincidentally I sure, are also in the dreck.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2023, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/959 "2023-07-06T12:05:15Z")

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Oh wow, the photos of the “cast of characters” all look so angry.

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2023, 12:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/960 "2023-07-06T12:15:40Z")

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Of course they’re angry. They’re constantly persecuted by having to live in a world where people they don’t like exist openly, and they’re not allowed to throw those people into permanent darkness. Anger is a natural consequence of the burden they carry daily.

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