# Republicans' war on transgender people: Omnibus thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 3, 2022, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609 "2022-06-03T02:20:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 61
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2023, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/1201 "2023-08-09T18:55:09Z")
This is painfully expected. Anything that pushes agains the mainstream narrative gets attacked. And that it is done by New York Magazine raises it to almost parody level. The game with a lot of this is to try to find a criticism and then consider it “debunked”! Ridiculous. So, feel free to discount it. If you don’t feel she is trustworthy, good for you. I do. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2023, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/1202 "2023-08-09T18:56:31Z")
It’s not about the laptop, you dope, it’s about the media. Was it or was it not suppressed by the entire media? Yes or no? ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2023, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/1203 "2023-08-09T18:57:37Z")
🙄 Sigh. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2023, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/1204 "2023-08-09T19:04:39Z")
Of course they do. But we also have to take into account that for the majority of kids experiencing gender dysphoria, most will no longer have it if allowed to go through puberty. If it were my kid, I’d get him all the psychiatric help I could and wait until he’s older, at least 18, to make sure that’s what he wants to do. Given the success puberty has with eliminating or easing gender dysphoria, it seems that not waiting is nuts. See my reply to Miller. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2023, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/1205 "2023-08-09T19:06:48Z")
Hey, I’m not the one arguing for policies that kill children, on the grounds that they might regret having the option to not go through irreversible changes. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2023, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/1206 "2023-08-09T19:08:31Z")
I’ll admit to not knowing the risks of chemo. If they are great, we should be more careful in administering it. You bring up “uncommon risks”. Well let’s talk about common solutions. If a large majority of kids with gender dysphoria have their dysphoria go away after puberty, shouldn’t we encourage them to go through it? ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2023, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/1207 "2023-08-09T19:08:52Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > Of course they do. But we also have to take into account that for the majority of kids experiencing gender dysphoria, most will no longer have it if allowed to go through puberty. If it were my kid, I’d get him all the psychiatric help I could and wait until he’s older, at least 18, to make sure that’s what he wants to do. Given the success puberty has with eliminating or easing gender dysphoria, it seems that not waiting is nuts. But he’s not your kid he’s some other persons kid who knows his situation a hell of a lot better than you ever could, yet you are declaring that you know better and so that decision should be taken away from that parent, her child and his doctor based on your gut feeling. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2023, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/1208 "2023-08-09T19:10:44Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > I’ll admit to not knowing the risks of chemo. That doesn’t stop you from using it in your arguments, does it? ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2023, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/1209 "2023-08-09T19:12:24Z")
Right. You’re the genius who thinks Republicans are trying to kill children. 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2023, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/1210 "2023-08-09T19:13:14Z")
I didn’t bring up chemo. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2023, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/1211 "2023-08-09T19:14:18Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > I’ll admit to not knowing the risks of chemo. If they are great, we should be more careful in administering it. We are. We only give it based on careful diagnosis, evaluation, and prescription by a doctor, after consultation with the patient and (if the patient is a minor) their guardian. Just like we do with puberty blockers. In neither case does “be more careful” mean “we should pass laws prohibiting doctors from ever prescribing it for anyone under the age of 18”. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2023, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/1212 "2023-08-09T19:15:05Z")
Still waiting for your response about the laptop. Was it or was it not suppressed by the entire media? Yes or no? ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2023, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/1213 "2023-08-09T19:15:52Z")
No it was not. Most of the media wasn’t able to report anything meaningful on it, because the “media” sources you trust deliberately sabotaged the evidence. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2023, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/1214 "2023-08-09T19:16:58Z")
Screw your hijack attempt. Fuck off. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2023, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/1215 "2023-08-09T19:20:34Z")
You missed the most important word in what you quoted: “more”. And the comparison with chemo is not a good one. As far as I am aware, chemo is recommended in order to save someone’s life from, say, pancreatic cancer…there is a near certainty that the person will die soon or it will spread and then kill them a bit more slowly. The case is not the same for trans children. And keep in mind, that many kids with gender dysphoria have other psychological problems, so you might be treating something that is not even the true cause of their unhappiness. Again, puberty will correct the problem for the vast majority. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2023, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/1216 "2023-08-09T19:22:30Z")
Not a hijack, dope. It was one example to point out that we should be cautious about where cites reside. But I’m not surprised that you either don’t get that or are trying to derail it because you don’t want to answer. But here it is again anyway: Still waiting for your response about the laptop. Was it or was it not suppressed by the entire media? Yes or no? ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2023, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/1217 "2023-08-09T19:24:55Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > No it was not. Most of the media wasn’t able to report anything meaningful on it, because the “media” sources you trust deliberately sabotaged the evidence. Also even if it wasn’t sabotaged, there was no “there” there. Guilliani hasn’t produced a damn thing that actually shows Joe Biden doing anything illegal. But if Magellan01 wants to pursue this further I recommend going [here](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-hunter-biden-investigation-this-thread-started-september-2019-bumped-after-3-years-dormant/840964) as it has nothing to do with the topic of this thread. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2023, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/1218 "2023-08-09T19:27:36Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > Still waiting for your response about the laptop. Hold your breath. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2023, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/1219 "2023-08-09T19:27:46Z")
I remember now! When in a hole, hire a backhoe and make the hole deeper and wider! And I see Magellan01 is doing just that! ---
**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2023, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/1220 "2023-08-09T19:31:18Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > for the majority of kids experiencing gender dysphoria, most will no longer have it if allowed to go through puberty. I don’t suppose you have evidence for this? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609.md?page=60) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609.md?page=62)