# Republicans' war on transgender people: Omnibus thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 3, 2022, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609 "2022-06-03T02:20:27Z")\
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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2023, 10:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/1681 "2023-10-16T10:06:39Z")

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For anybody who does want to be more systematically informed about the Republicans’ war on transgender people, the [Trans Legislation Tracker site](https://translegislation.com) is very useful.

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> This sweeping introduction of legislation at the federal level is unprecedented, seeking to impact access to healthcare, student athletics, the military, incarceration, and education.
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> In 2023, [84 anti-trans bills](https://translegislation.com/bills/2022) have already passed out of the 583 proposed across the country. […] This number will likely change as legislative sessions continue throughout the year.
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> To put that in perspective, in 2022 we saw [26 bills](https://translegislation.com/bills/2022) pass out of the 174 bills proposed (15%)

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**Author:** ![eschrodinger](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschrodinger/32/122_2.png) [@eschrodinger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschrodinger)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2023, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/1682 "2023-10-16T14:14:02Z")

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> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> On the one hand, I can see I’m a man. But on the _other_ hand…

> [@Babale](#):
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> Yeah, me too - my ring and index fingers are so close in length that on my right hand my ring finger is longer but on my left hand (where my wedding band pushes my ring finger slightly to the side) my index finger is longer.

> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#):
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> My right side is male and my left side is female, I guess.

> [@puzzlegal](#):
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> Ditto.

Only the left one counts, I think.

There’s a tiny grain of truth, which is of course being wrongly portrayed. But they didn’t make it up whole cloth…

> **[Length of ring and index fingers 'linked to sexuality'](https://www.bbc.com/news/health-45887691)**
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> Women whose left index and ring fingers are different lengths are more likely to be lesbians, a study suggests.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2023, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/1683 "2023-10-31T01:38:39Z")

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And now we have [Candace Owens](https://www.yahoo.com/news/watch-candace-owens-call-native-183147081.html) calling Native Americans cannibals and druggies after she was informed that there have always been Native American/First Nations Transgender people.

> Candace Owens, a far-right commentator, dismissed the historical existence of [transgender](http://advocate.com/transgender) individuals and denigrated Native American culture during a heated exchange with a young attendee at a recent event.
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> Video of the interaction was brought to light by journalist Victoria Brownworth, who posted a clip on X, formerly [Twitter](http://advocate.com/twitter).
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> “Candace Owens responded to a young woman challenging Owen’s anti-trans rant by pointing out Native American Two Spirit people existed. Owens goes off on her, calling Native Americans cannibals and drug users. Shocking, racist, and vile,” Brownworth wrote.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2023, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/1684 "2023-10-31T01:46:59Z")

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Thing is, she probably feels that because of who she is, she’s immunized from rebuke for calling the native inhabitants of a continent savages and cannibals. This is fucked up even beyond Trans issues.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2023, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/1685 "2023-10-31T05:19:40Z")

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Does partly-Caribbean-American Owens _know_ where the word cannibal comes from?

And that’s not going into European and African native cannibalism…

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**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2024, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/1686 "2024-01-30T14:08:03Z")

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Florida again. It just keeps getting worse. FUCK Ron DeSantis.

> **[Transgender people in Florida face having their driver's licenses revoked](https://www.newsweek.com/transgender-people-florida-face-drivers-licenses-revoked-1865187)**
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> A memo from the Florida Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles said transgender people can no longer change gender markers on their driver's licenses.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2024, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/1687 "2024-02-08T20:03:23Z")

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West Virginia has passed a “Women’s Bill of Rights”, but it doesn’t mention healthcare, abortion or pay increases.

> **[State's 'Women's Bill of Rights' an effort to suppress transgender people:...](https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/west-virginia-womens-bill-rights-effort-suppress-transgender-107064915)**
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> Dozens of speakers have condemned a bill in the West Virginia Legislature that would narrow the definitions of gender

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2024, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/1688 "2024-02-08T20:59:52Z")

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Sounds like a Bill of Wrongs.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2024, 7:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/1689 "2024-02-10T07:36:42Z")

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[Utah official accuses 16-year old female athlete is transgender](https://www.yahoo.com/news/utah-official-faces-calls-resign-232016577.html) but when called on her nonsense, she actually blames _the Transgender community_.

> A Utah state school board member is facing widespread condemnation and calls to resign after she shared a post on social media that appeared to suggest a 16-year-old girl on her school’s basketball team is transgender.
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> Natalie Cline, a member of the Utah State Board of Education, posted earlier this week on Facebook a flier for a high school girls’ basketball team in Salt Lake County, suggestively writing: “Girls’ basketball…” The post has since been deleted.

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> Cline apologized on Facebook on Wednesday, acknowledging that her post created a “firestorm” around the teenager and that “derogatory comments about the player were made.”
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> She also defended her intent saying that the girl “does have a larger build, like her parents,” and did not suggest she would resign.
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> “We live in strange times when it is normal to pause and wonder if people are what they say they are because of the push to normalize transgenderism in our society,” she [wrote on Facebook](https://www.facebook.com/natalie.cline.22).

Did you catch that? It’s the Transgender community’s fault for creating the strange times in which we live that normalizes Cline’s stunt. Absolutely shitty “apology”.

She should resign

And, yes, I did search to see what party she cleaved to. That’s why this post is in this thread.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2024, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/1690 "2024-02-10T18:33:48Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> Did you catch that? It’s the Transgender community’s fault for creating the strange times in which we live that normalizes Cline’s stunt. Absolutely shitty “apology”.

_“If trans girls weren’t around, I wouldn’t even have to imagine things and comment them out loud.”_ Damn. Do y’all get a vibe that unsaid in the background of that “strange times” quote is the thought _"back when **I** was in school, we would have just called her a butch dy_\*\*" ?

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2024, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/1691 "2024-02-10T20:18:39Z")

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And harassed the poor girl mercilessly.

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2024, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/1692 "2024-02-10T21:04:19Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> Did you catch that? It’s the Transgender community’s fault for creating the strange times in which we live that normalizes Cline’s stunt. Absolutely shitty “apology”.

Cline has a rather overly strong, masculine jaw. Not that I’d start a rumor or anything; that would be wrong.

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**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2024, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/1693 "2024-02-10T21:15:47Z")

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> [@needscoffee](#):
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> Cline has a rather overly strong, masculine jaw. Not that I’d start a rumor or anything; that would be wrong.

Isn’t that chin/jaw something that’s very strong in people with certain Mormon ancestry? That’s the first thing I thought of when I saw her photo. Nothing I know much about — just scuttlebutt I picked up reading old threads on that sister wives show.

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2024, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/1694 "2024-02-10T21:39:13Z")

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> [@carrps](#):
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> Nothing I know much about — just scuttlebutt I picked up reading old threads on that sister wives show.

No idea - the scuttlebutt sounds a bit like confirmation bias from viewing a small sample size.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2024, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/1695 "2024-02-10T21:49:14Z")

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One piece of good news: The governor and lieutenant governor (also Republicans, of course) are coming down pretty hard on the bigot.

> **[Utah governor says school board member who questioned a student's gender...](https://apnews.com/article/transgender-athlete-utah-school-board-member-governor-0aefa9baeb3cb5787687c8db02bf6241)**
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> Utah’s Republican governor and other state officials are calling out a conservative state school board member for insinuating in an online post that a member of a girl’s high school basketball team was transgender, when in fact she is not.

Not that they’re all that, either: He did sign a “bathroom bill”, and took other anti-trans measures. But apparently he does still have a line he won’t cross.

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**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2024, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/1696 "2024-02-10T21:50:46Z")

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And that line is evidently attacking a non-trans person.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2024, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/1697 "2024-02-10T21:54:25Z")

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Unless it’s a new governor, he also refused to sign a bill forbidding trans girls to play in girls sports teams, citing the lack of any trans girl athletes in the state.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2024, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/1698 "2024-02-16T20:55:09Z")

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Georgia state senator behind proposed anti-trans “bathroom bill” approaches a family in the state house and tells an 8-year-old girl he’s working to protect her.

He then learns the girl is trans, upon which he claims he’s being “attacked” and runs off.

> **[Georgia Senator Vows to Protect Girl, But Then Runs Away After Learning She...](https://www.erininthemorning.com/p/georgia-senator-vows-to-protect-girl)**
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> During a visit to lobby legislators on transgender issues, Senator Carden Summers (R) knelt down and told a child he would protect her. When he learned she was trans, he backed away.

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**Post date:** [February 16, 2024, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/1699 "2024-02-16T21:14:40Z")

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OMG – trans cooties! Run away! Run away!

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**Post date:** [March 3, 2024, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/1700 "2024-03-03T23:21:50Z")

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Proposed Missouri bill would fine and imprison teachers and school counselors that support transgender students’ social transition.

[https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/republican-bill-would-imprison-teachers-who-support-trans-students/ar-BB1jguZb?ocid=msedgntp&pc=HCTS&cvid=5b2c5aad77db449dbe194e7ad80c2053&ei=23](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/republican-bill-would-imprison-teachers-who-support-trans-students/ar-BB1jguZb?ocid=msedgntp&pc=HCTS&cvid=5b2c5aad77db449dbe194e7ad80c2053&ei=23)

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