# Republicans' war on transgender people: Omnibus thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 3, 2022, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609 "2022-06-03T02:20:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 94
**Author:** ![Ms2001](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ms2001/32/18463_2.png) [@Ms2001](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ms2001)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2025, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/1861 "2025-03-20T00:13:50Z")
A bit of good news from the courts: - A [preliminary injunction](https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.276959/gov.uscourts.dcd.276959.68.0_3.pdf) ordering the incarcerated trans women who were moved to men’s prisons to be moved back to women’s prisons - Another [preliminary injunction](https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.276845/gov.uscourts.dcd.276845.89.0.pdf) blocking the executive order banning trans people from military service The latter opinion is, as the kids say, kind of a banger: > [@Judge Reyes (citations omitted)](#): > > Secretary Hegseth used the word “transgender,” defense counsel claims, only as “shorthand” for gender dysphoria. Seriously? These were not off-the-cuff remarks at a cocktail party. DoD and Secretary Hegseth used official government accounts to announce a new policy affecting the entire U.S. Military. The Court presumes that in doing so they did not use loose or misleading language. Indeed, if the Hegseth Policy addressed only gender dysphoria, the post would have read, “Gender dysphoria is a disqualifying medical condition for service.” Both sentences contain nine words, belying counsel’s “shorthand” excuse. > [@Judge Reyes (citations omitted)](#): > > Without answers to these basic questions, Defendants cannot explain how transgender persons impact military readiness. How have they done so? Is that impact positive or negative? Is it material? How many have, like Plaintiffs, served with distinction and are fit for continued service? How many are stable after a gender dysphoria diagnosis? How many have had deployment issues? How many will be eligible for an exemption? How many will be discharged? What amount of irreplaceable experience will the military then lose? Who knows? Not Defendants. > … > To contextualize this absence, consider, by contrast, Executive Order 14208, “Ending Procurement and Forced Use of Paper Straws.” EO14208 makes it “the policy of the United States to end the use of paper straws.” EO14208 provides clear and articulable reasons to support its conclusions. Paper straws: (1) “are nonfunctional,” (2) “use chemicals that may carry risks to human health,” (3) “are more expensive to produce than plastic straws,” (4) “often force users to use multiple straws,” and (5) “sometimes come individually wrapped in plastic, undermining the environmental argument for their use.” The White House also provided a fact sheet supporting EO14208, citing to multiple studies supporting these claims. No such rationale, much less supporting data, is anywhere to be found in EO14183. > > Presumably, a policy that bans transgender persons from military service—individuals who have served honorably and “made American safer”—should result from study at least comparable to one that bans paper straws. > [@Judge Reyes (citations omitted)](#): > > The Military Ban also prohibits the use of “invented” pronouns used to “identify” persons because they too are inconsistent with military readiness. This assertion makes no sense as written—all pronouns are invented and used to identify persons. That aside, Defendants could not even begin to identify how pronoun usage affects military readiness. The Court gave defense counsel the opportunity to present a witness—any witness—to state under oath that it does. None materialized. > [@Judge Reyes (citations omitted)](#): > > Defendants respond that the Court cannot probe “government officials’ subjective intentions.” True, the Court cannot read minds. But it can read. EO14183 and the Hegseth Policy tag transgender persons as weak, dishonorable, undisciplined, boastful, selfish liars who are mentally and physically unfit to serve. Its accompanying Fact Sheet piles on, further calling transgender persons insane, not resilient, unhealthy, and unfit. Hardly subtle. Refusing to give up the ghost, however, Defendants refused to answer whether this language evinces animus. But the Court has no such problem. It finds that the Military Ban’s language evinces the “bare…desire to harm a politically unpopular group.” ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2025, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/1862 "2025-03-22T02:25:37Z")
> [@ekedolphin](#): > > Thomas last competed for the school in 2022! Which was also when she graduated from UPenn. It couldn’t be more clear that this is just about retaliatory malevolence, rather than any kind of coherent policy initiative. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2025, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/1863 "2025-04-03T19:56:51Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > West Virginia has passed a “Women’s Bill of Rights”, but it doesn’t mention healthcare, abortion or pay increases. They added [a new act](https://wvpublic.org/riley-gaines-signed-into-law-a-bill-that-defines-men-and-women/) named for noted transphobe [Riley Gaines](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riley_Gaines) just over a month after that post. That act could have been much, much worse: [WV Senate clarifies gender definition bill can’t be used to inspect child’s genitals.](https://westvirginiawatch.com/2025/03/11/wv-senate-clarifies-gender-definition-bill-cant-be-used-to-inspect-childs-genitals/) ---
**Author:** ![Zoobi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/13edae/32.png) [@Zoobi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoobi)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2025, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/1864 "2025-04-03T20:11:22Z")
> **[Rodger Sherman (@rodger.bsky.social)](https://bsky.app/profile/rodger.bsky.social/post/3llugubollc2d)** > > We simply had to intentionally destroy the world’s strongest economy while dismantling our scientific and educational infrastructure to ensure that a team with a trans girl would never finish second place in the Mountain West volleyball standings... ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2025, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/1865 "2025-04-04T13:04:03Z")
Yesterdays’ statement from the White House: [National Child Abuse Prevention Month, 2025 – The White House](https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/04/national-child-abuse-prevention-month-2025/#:~:text=We%20affirm%20that%20every%20perpetrator,Liberty%20generations%20into%20the%20future). Seems pretty straightforward, right? Except: > [@](#): > > Sadly, one of the most prevalent forms of child abuse facing our country today is the sinister threat of gender ideology. Proponents of the gender ideology movement are outrageously indoctrinating our children with the devastating lie that they are trapped in the wrong body — and that the only way they can be truly happy is to alter their sex with hormone therapy, puberty blockers, and sexual mutilation surgery. The evil and backwards lies of gender insanity are robbing our children of their happiness, health, and freedom, while imposing unimaginable heartbreak on parents and families. As I stated during my Joint Address to the Congress last month, my message to every American child is simple: you are perfect exactly the way God made you. > > As President, I proudly signed Executive Order 14187 prohibiting public schools from indoctrinating our children with transgender ideology, while also taking action to cut off all taxpayer funding to any institution that engages in the sexual mutilation of our youth. To further protect our children, I have taken historic action to secure our southern border and end child trafficking — and am working diligently to make our young people healthy again. Assume that I have appended here a long string of the strongest swear words I can think of. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2025, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/1866 "2025-04-04T13:08:58Z")
> [@](#): > > you are perfect exactly the way God made you. Says the guy that’s had multiple gender affirming surgeries to change the bald head God gave him. ---
**Author:** ![colinfred](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colinfred/32/21338_2.png) [@colinfred](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/colinfred)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2025, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/1867 "2025-04-04T13:14:30Z")
> [@Zoobi](#): > > We simply had to intentionally destroy the world’s strongest economy while dismantling our scientific and educational infrastructure to ensure that a team with a trans girl would never finish second place in the Mountain West volleyball standings… We simply had to enable the destruction of the world’s strongest economy and the dismantlement of our scientific and educational infrastructure to insist that a team with a biological male could compete with girls. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2025, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/1868 "2025-04-04T13:17:19Z")
Do I read that correctly? It’s the trans’ fault we have Trump? ---
**Author:** ![colinfred](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colinfred/32/21338_2.png) [@colinfred](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/colinfred)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2025, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/1869 "2025-04-04T13:18:03Z")
Wokism generally, but trans at the forefront. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2025, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/1870 "2025-04-04T13:18:49Z")
Care to blame the Blacks and the Jews while you’re at it? ---
**Author:** ![BippityBoppityBoo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bippityboppityboo/32/5745_2.png) [@BippityBoppityBoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BippityBoppityBoo)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2025, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/1871 "2025-04-04T13:22:01Z")
And wimmen, don’t forget the wimmen. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2025, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/1872 "2025-04-04T13:22:46Z")
> [@colinfred](#): > > Wokism generally, but trans at the forefront. That’s a truly dumb sentiment. Without progressives and “the woke” in general, Democrats probably couldn’t win any elections. They need those voters just as much as any other part of their coalition. ---
**Author:** ![colinfred](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colinfred/32/21338_2.png) [@colinfred](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/colinfred)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2025, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/1873 "2025-04-04T13:26:09Z")
Remind me how the woke are friends to the Jews? Last I heard the woke were calling them genociders for defending themselves against a group that want to massacre them all. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2025, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/1874 "2025-04-04T13:27:07Z")
Ahh, the usual conflation of Jews with Israelis. Ya know, there are Jews that think Israel is committing genocide. Also, remind me ~~how~~ why the Christian right is friendly to the Jews? ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2025, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/1875 "2025-04-04T13:31:06Z")
> [@colinfred](#): > > Remind me how the woke are friends to the Jews? I think you’ll have to ask Jewish voters, who voted for Harris in greater numbers than any other demographic group (except maybe Black women?). Maybe Jewish voters know something about themselves that you, a transphobic troll, does not. Anyway, why don’t you fuck right off to the colinfred, sorry, cornfield, with your transphobic bullshit. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2025, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/1876 "2025-04-04T13:35:54Z")
> [@colinfred](#): > > Remind me how the woke are friends to the Jews? Last I heard the woke were calling them genociders for defending themselves against a group that want to massacre them all. Who are “the woke”? Are they in the room with us now? ---
**Author:** ![Crafter\_Man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crafter_man/32/458_2.png) [@Crafter\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crafter_Man)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2025, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/1877 "2025-04-04T13:37:47Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Without progressives and “the woke” in general, Democrats probably couldn’t win any elections. They need those voters just as much as any other part of their coalition. A few Democrats like [Newsom](https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/20/politics/kfile-gavin-newsom-podcast-policy-reversal-trans-sports-latinx/index.html) and [Fetterman](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/feb/18/john-fetterman-democrat-trump-progressive) have abandoned some of the “woke” positions of the left. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2025, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/1878 "2025-04-04T13:38:34Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Who are “the woke”? Are they in the room with us now? [![](https://i.imgflip.com/9pqbsm.jpg) ](https://i.imgflip.com/9pqbsm.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2025, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/1879 "2025-04-04T13:39:16Z")
> [@Crafter\_Man](#): > > A few Democrats like [Newsom](https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/20/politics/kfile-gavin-newsom-podcast-policy-reversal-trans-sports-latinx/index.html) and [Fetterman](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/feb/18/john-fetterman-democrat-trump-progressive) have abandoned some of the “woke” positions of the left. What’s a “woke” position, in your view? ---
**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2025, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/1880 "2025-04-04T13:45:24Z")
Who are “the woke”? Are they in the room with us now? [/quote] They’re calling from inside the house! Sorry, just trying to inject humor. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609.md?page=93) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609.md?page=95)