# Republicans' war on transgender people: Omnibus thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 3, 2022, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609 "2022-06-03T02:20:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 97
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2025, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/1921 "2025-05-28T12:33:47Z")
> [@Dinsdale](#): > > I thought if this is where folk most interested in trans issues were currently posting, No, this is where people complaining about the Republican war on transgender people are currently posting. And you just brought up the favorite topic of people attacking those who are transgender. ---
**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2025, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/1922 "2025-05-28T12:34:58Z")
> [@Dinsdale](#): > > I just was unclear as to whether some athletes described as trans might be fully biologically male, and others might have undergone hormone and surgical therapy. The issue is not the exact medical state of a trans athlete, the issue is that Trump is threatening to withhold all federal funding to California because a single athlete qualified for a state tournament. [Link to the bullshit](https://www.nbcnews.com/nbc-out/out-politics-and-policy/trump-demands-california-stop-trans-girl-competing-state-high-jump-fin-rcna209270) This topic is sucking up all the air in the room because a couple of high school girls might not get a medal this year in a tournament that Donald Trump wouldn’t attend without a million dollar payday attached. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2025, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/1923 "2025-05-28T12:41:04Z")
> [@Dinsdale](#): > > Are there any commonly accepted “standards” as to what qualifies a trans individual to compete in women’s sport? To give you a better answer than your misplaced question deserves, no, there isn’t. The standards vary by sport and venue. So, most professional sports, and major competitions like the Olympics, have picked some standard. (Which may vary, depending on the sport and the governing organization.) Most “casual” events, like elementary school kick ball, go purely by how the athlete identifies. No event for children under 18 expects anyone to have undergone surgery. For reasons that should be obvious. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2025, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/1924 "2025-05-28T14:15:52Z")
> [@Dinsdale](#): > > Personally, I do not care anything about sport, and do not care who competes in which categories. I’m not questioning any individuals gender identification. I just was unclear as to whether some athletes described as trans might be fully biologically male, and others might have undergone hormone and surgical therapy. Under 18 - no legitimate doctor will perform any form of gender surgery related to gender dysphoria i.e. “trans surgery”. People born intersex are a different matter, but even that is less common these days (and to be clear, intersex people are NOT trans, although they are frequently lumped in with them) Under 18 athletes may, in states where it is still permitted, take “puberty blockers” to avoid going through undesired changes prior to being allowed to decide for themselves if they want top or bottom surgery (not all trans people get all possible surgeries due to expense, medical risks, or other reasons). A person assigned male at birth on puberty blockers will not have the advantages brought by testosterone like increased muscle mass. They might grow taller than average, but that’s as much due to having a prolonged length of time in which to grow compared to peers going through puberty earlier than they are as to chromosome make up or other factors. As others have noted, standards vary at this point in time. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2025, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/1925 "2025-05-28T14:44:52Z")
> [@Dinsdale](#): > > Minor minor aside - if you wish to have much impact on folk who are not currently true believers in your cause, you might wish to entertain the remotest possibility that a sincere question is exactly that. How fucking stupid do you think we are, that we don’t also consider exactly the kind of fuckstick doing the asking. You’re not some _unknown_ quantity, motherfucker. ---
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2025, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/1926 "2025-05-28T18:45:31Z")
Thanks to those who responded informatively to my sincere question. ---
**Author:** ![Toxgoddess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Toxgoddess](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Toxgoddess)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2025, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/1927 "2025-05-28T22:01:21Z")
For the record I have always found @Dinsdale to be polite, reasonable and knowledgeable. I thought his question was sincere whether or not it was in the wrong thread. I have no idea what you are referring when you say he’s a “known quantity” but your over-the-top response was uncalled for in my opinion. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2025, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/1928 "2025-05-28T23:18:08Z")
> [@Toxgoddess](#): > > I have no idea what you are referring when you say he’s a “known quantity” but your over-the-top response was uncalled for in my opinion. Dibble’s whole deal is getting off on conflict. Needling people and taking offense to everything. It gets to the level of trolling on occasion. That’s why I finally had to put the asshole on ignore. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2025, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/1929 "2025-05-28T23:36:41Z")
On the other hand, I had the sense this might be an honest question even if poorly worded and demonstrating some misunderstanding, which is why I chose to answer it as if it were serious. If nothing else, it might help someone else who had a similar question. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2025, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/1930 "2025-05-29T05:02:40Z")
> [@Toxgoddess](#): > > For the record I have always found @Dinsdale to be polite People who prize politeness over character can _also_ get fucked. It’s one of the reasons we had so many racists and misogynists around here for so long. > [@Toxgoddess](#): > > I have no idea what you are referring when you say he’s a “known quantity” Ask ASLv2.0 how reasonable and polite he really is. Or anyone with a mental issue who ever passed through his court, for that matter… > [@Atamasama](#): > > That’s why I finally had to put the asshole on ignore. Me, has on ignore. [This asshole](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/more-stupid-people-die-why-are-we-supposed-to-care/972556), though, he’s apparently _now_ just fine defending… what a difference 3 years makes. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2025, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/1931 "2025-05-29T12:13:57Z")
> [@Toxgoddess](#): > > For the record I have always found @Dinsdale to be polite, Yes, I believe I’ve noted that already. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2025, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/1932 "2025-06-03T20:15:01Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > > [@Toxgoddess](#): > > > > I have no idea what you are referring when you say he’s a “known quantity” > > Ask ASLv2.0 how reasonable and polite he really is. Or anyone with a mental issue who ever passed through his court, for that matter… Yeah, he’s been a dick/bigot in certain ways. I want to believe it’s just ignorance, but it’s sure a whole LOT of ignorance, especially given his job. MrDibble is definitely more angry and mean a lot, but I totally get his reaction. I don’t think it’s fair to see the black African who is harsh on bigotry like he’s the guy who is trying to start shit. Dinsdale genuinely should have known better than to post that stuff in here. I make no judgement on whether it was ignorance or malice. I just have a lot more sympathy for the angry people who have faced a lot of bigotry in their life being harsh about it. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2025, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/1933 "2025-06-03T20:22:25Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > the black African I’m not Black. Coloured is a different ethnicity. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2025, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/1934 "2025-06-05T19:35:02Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > > [@BigT](#): > > > > the black African ⁢ > > I’m not Black. Coloured is a different ethnicity. ⁢ Apologies. I knew that Coloured was a different ethnicity, but somehow missed or forgot you were of that ethnicity. ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2025, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/1935 "2025-06-18T16:08:47Z")
> **[Supreme Court OKs Tennessee ban on gender-affirming care for kids, a setback...](https://apnews.com/article/supreme-court-transgender-health-care-trump-79fc6f3bbdab2e92d6f0184201a468a9)** > > An American Civil Liberties Union lawyer says the Supreme Court decision upholding Tennessee’s ban on gender-affirming care for transgender minors is “a devastating loss for transgender people” and "everyone who cares about the Constitution.” ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2025, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/1936 "2025-06-18T17:11:46Z")
It warms my heart to see the SCOTUS bravely standing up to defend bigotry. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2025, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/1937 "2025-06-18T17:22:44Z")
> Tennessee’s law {SB1} bans puberty blockers and hormone treatments for transgender minors but allows the same drugs to be used for other purposes. > … > Doctors may prescribe puberty blockers and hormone therapy to minors of any sex to treat some disorders, but not those relating to transgender status, he {Chief Justice John Roberts in a 24-page majority opinion} wrote. Or, simply, gender-affirming care for us but not for _YOU_. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2025, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/1938 "2025-06-18T17:26:51Z")
I wonder if precocious puberty (and other conditions requiring puberty blockers) are about to become a lot more common in Tennessee… ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2025, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/1939 "2025-06-18T20:10:43Z")
“Shoot, man, I don’t wanna boff my niece until she shows _some_ secondary characteristics!” ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2025, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609/1940 "2025-08-07T21:10:50Z")
The Trump administration has announced that it will deny retirement benefits to all transgender members of the Air Force who are being involuntarily forced to retire due to their cruel policies that were sanctioned by the Supreme Court. > **[US Air Force to deny retirement pay to transgender service members being...](https://apnews.com/article/air-force-transgender-no-early-retirement-e6a4da806f2cc2bdc05f49438cbd26fd)** > > The U.S. Air Force has decided to deny early retirement options for transgender service members with 15 to 18 years of service. I hate him I hate him **I hate him…** [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609.md?page=96) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republicans-war-on-transgender-people-omnibus-thread/965609.md?page=98)