# Republitrolls. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 20, 2017, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republitrolls/777646 "2017-01-20T17:53:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republitrolls/777646/181 "2017-01-22T05:36:03Z")
I don’t go there. I’d bet money I haven’t been there in psat 5 years. I’d bet big money I haven’t visited more than a handful of times in a fucking decade…and that is because somebody posted a link from here to there…and I would almost bet my soul I’ve never actually posted there (or spent a few minute here or there reading shit linked from here)… So. fuck your girraffe back ass for bring this irrelevant shit up. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republitrolls/777646/182 "2017-01-22T05:42:23Z")
Wow, Americans really hate to be called racist _and_ they squeal mightily when anyone suggests they’re being unreasonable. It always has to be “No, I’m the one living in reality, _those_ jerks are in the fantasy bubble!” It’s quite fascinating to watch from a safe distance. ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republitrolls/777646/183 "2017-01-22T05:47:57Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Wow, Americans really hate to be called racist _and_ they squeal mightily when anyone suggests they’re being unreasonable. It always has to be “No, I’m the one living in reality, _those_ jerks are in the fantasy bubble!” > > It’s quite fascinating to watch from a safe distance. Depends on which side of the border (that might or might not be being enforced you live on). But you are not living within such distance of either border…so you are just an internet wanker with an opinion… ---
**Author:** ![Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omg_a_Black_Conservative)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republitrolls/777646/184 "2017-01-22T05:58:04Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > Well, consider when Bush the lesser let relatives of Bin Laden in America to leave after just a few words with the FBI after WTC 9/11 took place. > > Applying your inhuman logic then the Republicans that you also supported then did it wrong, by not getting rid of them for what their infamous relative did or torturing them before letting them go. > > No, the reality is that many of his relatives did disown him, and likely helped to eventually get him. Your sorry ideas about torture and killing families would only had made most in the Arab World to be our sworn enemy. > > So, taking that torture and killing family members of terrorists is a bad idea, you are really dumb. And on top of that you still sound very inhuman. Just saying. I know you read my responses in the other thread, which makes me wonder what you’re arguing. _shrugs_ ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republitrolls/777646/185 "2017-01-22T06:08:14Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > I won’t tell you what you think, but I’ll tell you what many of your fellow Trumpists think; you tell us if you agree with them or not. Sounds reasonable. > [@](#): > > Is building the wall a Great Idea to Make America Great Again? Will Mexico Pay for it? Is Repealing Obamacare forthwith a Great Idea? Building a wall seems pointless. Aggressively enforcing immigration law is not a bad idea. If we want more open borders than do it through the legislative process. Not thru encouraging law breaking. With regards to Obamacare? There are some fundamental issues I have with the individual mandate but I guess it falls under the power to tax? Healthcare in the USA is bad for a country with the resources and untapped productivity we have. So, I’m not in a rush to take away policy that saves lives and improves lives without something to replace it. I’ve advocated expanding the safety net and implementing a basic income while removing minimum wage laws. So I am not opposed to wealth redistribution in a modern, highly productive society. I think we have issues on the demand side more than the supply side. But law needs to be enforced. We can’t tolerate de facto open borders and unnecessary free riders. > [@](#): > > Interviews with Trump supporters suggest _ **they agree those are bad ideas** _, but supported Trump because they assumed _ **his statements were lies!** _ Why did they vote for Trump then? They wanted to vote against Clinton because … (wait for it) … _ **she’s a liar!** _ :smack: > > Many Trumpists seem to be saying “Nanner nanner nanner … you libtards were trying to force the 21st century on us; we’re sending all y’all back to the 19th century, ha ha!” As though crashing the bus and injuring the passengers is proper payback for the libtards’ folly … but ignoring that we’re all riding the same now-doomed bus. > > This is what many of us think Trumpists think, _based on their own words_, **octopus**. Where are we wrong? Man I got no idea. I know many Trump supporters. I think many of them, just as many on the left, have no coherent world view. Explaining why voters vote how they vote would be a book. Let’s just say that internal contradictions aren’t surprising in the political realm. And I think that comes from just basic human nature and brain wiring. Again, there is no way to address your question that can’t be nitpicked endlessly without writing a novel. I will say this though, rhetoric matters as much if not more so than logic to the human mind. Why do you think there are 3 billion + or so religious folk on this planet when all evidence suggests we live in a world without ghosts and demons? Try answering that. If communication with pure reason and logic would work we wouldn’t have 95% of the problems in the world we have today. I don’t have a problem with much of the left, to be honest. I have a problem with those who exploit leftist ideology in order to seize government or institutional power though. I believe in constraints. I believe in checks and balances. I’m probably the most pro bill of rights person on this board. In large part because I believe in the importance of a strong foundation for constraining government. > [@](#): > > BTW, I’m confused about the list. A “troll” is someone pretending to be a fool, right? But are these trolls … or just fools? Or are they just plain fools who think they’re clever trolls at playing the fool, but doing so foolishly? The list is a troll by the definition of troll held by the list creators. > [@Lemur866](#): > > Yeah, it’s not someone who just disagrees with you. > > But you can’t evade the charge of trolling just because you honestly hate liberals and want to insult them. That’s not how it works. Is that how you’re going to make America great again? The way you use troll gives it no real meaning. > [@](#): > > Jesus, you fucksticks just elected Donald Trump, and you’re whining like a five year old that people are being mean to you on a message board, and that entitles you do do whatever the fuck you want. I did nothing of the sort. And yes, if people act like jackasses to me in the pit when I’m being reasonable outside the pit then I’m entitled to respond to them, basically as I wish in the pit as well. Sorry if that offends you, but the pit isn’t your safe place. > [@](#): > > Listen to yourself. What exactly do you hope to accomplish here? I mean, by voting for Trump, first of all. And second, doing a little happy dance about it, not because you give a shit about Trump or think he’s going to accomplish anything worthwhile, but just because you know it will annoy people you hate? Not that it’s any of your business nor are you entitled to know who i did or did not vote for but I’ve said many times on these very forums that I could not vote for Trump for many of my own reasons so I did not. > [@](#): > > How EXACTLY is annoying liberals supposed to make America great again? How exactly is annoying anyone supposed to win them to your side? You miss obvious points and I won’t spell them out again. > [@](#): > > This exemplifies a startling lack of emotional insight on your part. When someone hits at you, you get mad and start punching back, right? So you think other people will react differently? You punch at them, and they run crying for the exits? You think that’s how this is going to work? So you claim. Yet. Look at most of the responses I get in the pit nowadays. It’s a slightly more vulgar great debates for the most part. Of course we have outliers like our special friend below who is unaware of his own racism. And I don’t even punch back! People said all sorts of perverse, vulgar, and ignorant hate speech directed at me for no rational and honest reason. There were rational reasons but they weren’t honest. Yet, did I respond in kind? Did I punch back? Do I direct perverse and vulgar and obviously untrue statements at them? No. But neither do act like a Gandhi and say nothing. On a scale of 1-10 people would start in on me with stuff that would be near the high end of the offensiveness scale. I’d respond, if at all with something around the 1-3. Yet I’m the troll? Lol. That’s not how it works in the eyes of anyone with integrity now is it? The real issue is that the left on this board, for a large part, are bullies. And when they can’t drive off a differing viewpoint with their cyber-bullying and their hate speech they start to rules lawyer. Ah yes, the despicable rules lawyer which is lower than even a troll. Thankfully, the mods here do have integrity. I may disagree with many of the mods. I’ve been insulted by the mods. I may have been pitted by a mod. But the one thing that I can respect about the mods is I have never seen them take stuff personally and use that as an excuse to abuse their power. That’s a hard thing to do and not many can do it. So kudos to the mods. And I’m surprised at the hard time people give the mods in the ATMB. The bottom line is this: I wouldn’t come to a board that was predominantly left wing if I did not find value in hearing what the posters have to say. Many of you folks are smart, well educated, and have well articulated arguments. I have learned a lot reading and participating in these forums. > [@BobLibDem](#): > > Shodan, Bricker, and HurricaneDitka are not trolls. They are very opinionated but I have respect for their opinions though they may be different from mine. > > octopus, aldiboronti, and OMG look at me I’m really black, seriously, believe me I’m black even though I vote for the biggest racist dicks on the planet ABlackConservative are trolls. ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 6:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republitrolls/777646/186 "2017-01-22T06:13:37Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Outside the pit, how is anything you typed remotely true? So in the pit it’s true. I’ll take that as validation. Thanks ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republitrolls/777646/187 "2017-01-22T06:16:46Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > Can you afford to continue your Intellectual Disability therapy without a government program, such as Obamacare, providing that opportunity? If you can, I’ll sleep better at night when you lose your Obamacare. Let’s see, you make the argument that I’m retarded yet you are convinced that California, THE 8TH LARGEST ECONOMY IN THE WORLD!!11! is going to go the UN and become it’s own nation. I think your demonstration of a weak grasp of reality undermines your assertion. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republitrolls/777646/188 "2017-01-22T06:21:09Z")
> [@drad\_dog](#): > > So in the pit it’s true. I’ll take that as validation. Thanks You shouldn’t. Because it isn’t what I said. But take it as you wish. ---
**Author:** ![jz78817](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jz78817/32/1028_2.png) [@jz78817](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jz78817)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republitrolls/777646/189 "2017-01-22T15:12:56Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > I disagree with the entire list, given that it’s supposed to be a list of trolls. My contempt for **Clothahump** is as broad as the ocean and twice as deep, but I swear to God, I get one more reported post 'cause he went into a thread that’s wall-to-wall “You suck for voting Trump,” and posted, “No, you suck for voting Clinton!” I’m gonna start banning people at random. It’s the fucking Pit, people. You’re _supposed_ to be assholes to each other in here. wait, hold the phone. I thought insults were merely _permitted_ here. when did they become mandatory? ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republitrolls/777646/190 "2017-01-22T16:36:36Z")
> [@jz78817](#): > > wait, hold the phone. I thought insults were merely _permitted_ here. when did they become mandatory? Get with the program, fuckhead. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republitrolls/777646/191 "2017-01-22T16:40:26Z")
Lest we forget our very own concern trolling little twerp, **adaher** : [So what is the womens’ march supposed to accomplish?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=816999) ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republitrolls/777646/192 "2017-01-22T17:05:53Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Let’s see, you make the argument that I’m retarded yet you are convinced that California, THE 8TH LARGEST ECONOMY IN THE WORLD!!11! is going to go the UN and become it’s own nation. I think your demonstration of a weak grasp of reality undermines your assertion. I’ve been around here for 10 year. I’ve seen trolls come and go. Most of the time they are one trick ponies, conspiracists or tin foil hat wearing loons. The smart trolls interact and try to fit in as they unfold their scheme. But, there’s little chance you’ll ever rise to the level of smart troll. You’re just an obstinate, mentally challenged, republitard looking for a free meal. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republitrolls/777646/193 "2017-01-22T17:41:18Z")
> [@billfish678](#): > > Depends on which side of the border (that might or might not be being enforced you live on). > > But you are not living within such distance of either border…so you are just an internet wanker with an opinion… Ooooh! I touched a nerve! Your nerves have been touched! Your response is incoherent but at least it _is_ a response, and an indignant one, at that. - is what a troll would say, and lately there has been a great deal of “you lib’ruls are so butthurt!” trolling which doesn’t even try to present a pro-Trump case, just happy gloating. Anyway, your country will (probably) survive. If Trump does _some_ of what he promised, the resultant instability probably has a good chance of raising oil prices and discouraging alternatives which is good for my country, at least in the short term. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republitrolls/777646/194 "2017-01-22T19:26:40Z")
> [@billfish678](#): > > You misunderstand the difference between defending a position and defending an understanding of defending of the defending of a position… > > Then again I am not some “wetback” that spends time on some other board and brings that crap here…either keep your shit here or take that shit elsewhere… [Moderating] This is a formal warning for the use of a racial slur against another poster Your posting privileges are currently under review. [/Moderating] ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republitrolls/777646/195 "2017-01-22T19:32:18Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > [Moderating] > This is a formal warning for the use of a racial slur against another poster > > Your posting privileges are currently under review. > [/Moderating] And there you go SDMB. Do the " " " (how the hell do you quote quotation marks anyway?) not mean anything…not to mention IIRC it wasn’t me that brought this term up in the first place. And second…if you guys really do want to make this an echo chamber where things don’t offend you…even in the gawd damn fucking butt hurt BBQ pit…well have at it… ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republitrolls/777646/196 "2017-01-22T20:14:36Z")
> [@billfish678](#): > > And there you go SDMB. > > Do the " " " (how the hell do you quote quotation marks anyway?) not mean anything…not to mention IIRC it wasn’t me that brought this term up in the first place. Legitimate points, I’d say. ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republitrolls/777646/197 "2017-01-22T20:14:42Z")
And for that matter…one of you mods send me a phone number…or whatever…and we can have a “nice” chat…you tell me why I’m XYZ and I’ll be happy to explain that this is not quite so… Or you all can hide in your secret star chamber and issue a final decree. ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republitrolls/777646/198 "2017-01-22T20:17:03Z")
> [@Eddie The Horrible](#): > > Legitimate points, I’d say. Heh…11 outa ten for being right… -11 outa ten for bad spelling 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republitrolls/777646/199 "2017-01-22T20:29:33Z")
> [@billfish678](#): > > Heh…11 outa ten for being right… > > -11 outa ten for bad spelling 🙂 There was a typo? oh - the “outa” ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republitrolls/777646/200 "2017-01-22T20:36:19Z")
Now you are getting it 🙂 Gotta get some 🙂 before the banning… Gawd this place has gone to shit…even in the PIT you gotta watch what you say… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republitrolls/777646.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republitrolls/777646.md?page=11)