# Republitrolls. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 20, 2017, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republitrolls/777646 "2017-01-20T17:53:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2017, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republitrolls/777646/81 "2017-01-21T18:47:48Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Yes. It describes the people I’m responding to. Which is why I typed it. If people on this site were polite they’d get politeness in kind. But don’t cry when someone who,you treat badly responds in kind. Duh! My first encounter with you, you were anything but polite. I tried responding to your rather inflammatory rhetoric with politeness, and you responded with more vitriol. Now, maybe the fact that I am not a trump supporter lumps me in with any and everyone else that was ever mean to you, but if you are trying to say that you treat others the way you yourself are treated by them, you are very, very wrong. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2017, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republitrolls/777646/82 "2017-01-21T18:48:02Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > If people on this site were polite they’d get politeness in kind. But don’t cry when someone who,you treat badly responds in kind. Duh! Fine. _PLEASE_, fuck off. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2017, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republitrolls/777646/83 "2017-01-21T19:12:54Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > Yeah, I disagree with **Hurricane** on a lot of things when I read them here, but he does seem to be a fairly reasonable person and not just a knee-jerk “OBAMA IS A MARXIST!!!LIBERALS DID ALL THE BAD TO THIS WORLD” type. I wouldn’t put him on the list. I dont’ even think **octopus** belongs on it. The rest, though, I pretty much see little to no point in engaging in any political talk (which I avoid here for the most part, anyway) because the answers are 100% predictable. There are many posters on the left here, too, that I feel the same way about. > [@pulykamell](#): > > It’s not so much sincerity as it is ideological brainwashing. There are some people who simply will not admit the other side did something good. I can’t imagine some of these posters say a single damn good thing about Obama, but I could name a few things I liked about W and his policies (starting the auto industry bailout, for one), his father was a decent president, one of my favorites and a Republican I can only dream for these days. Similarly, I do expect to actually agree with Trump every once in awhile. I can’t understand a political position where one believes in 100% of the party line and that 0% of what the opposition does is good. I came here to post almost precisely _all_ of this, so…thank-you! ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2017, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republitrolls/777646/84 "2017-01-21T19:19:09Z")
> [@Eddie The Horrible](#): > > I came here to post almost precisely _all_ of this, so…thank-you! Hey, what’s with this _almost_ bullshit?! If you’re not a hundred percent with pulykamell, you’re like ten billion percent _against_ pulkamell! This response brought to you by the Foundation for Legislative Ideological Purity (FLIP). ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2017, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republitrolls/777646/85 "2017-01-21T19:39:31Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > You are just triggered since I rightfully call you a deluded loon for thinking California is going to secede peacefully. Though with an intellectual giant such as yourself part of the treasonous movement perhaps I’m mistaken. I’m appalled. I put you at the top of the list where you’d get all the attention, and you’re not grateful? You attack me for this? Next time you’ll just be left between Clothy and OMG. BTW, they have mastered removing their head from their asses on occasion, a skill you really need to learn. There is so much they can teach you. ---
**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2017, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republitrolls/777646/86 "2017-01-21T20:16:18Z")
Yeah, there’s a couple of so-called conservative posters here who just think it’s fun to troll. Not that they’re not conservatives, but they don’t bother to argue the merits. It’s still trolling if the only reason you post is to annoy people you don’t like, even if you believe everything you say. Again, the conflation of trolling with insincerity is nonsense. You don’t have to be posting insincerely to be a troll. What makes a troll is only posting because you enjoy annoying people you don’t like. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2017, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republitrolls/777646/87 "2017-01-21T21:18:02Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > Fine. > > _PLEASE_, fuck off. Who are you? And do you kiss your partner with that potty mouth? ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2017, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republitrolls/777646/88 "2017-01-21T21:25:41Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > My first encounter with you, you were anything but polite. > > I tried responding to your rather inflammatory rhetoric with politeness, and you responded with more vitriol. > > Now, maybe the fact that I am not a trump supporter lumps me in with any and everyone else that was ever mean to you, but if you are trying to say that you treat others the way you yourself are treated by them, you are very, very wrong. You are correct. I treat the jackasses on this forum better than they treat me and others they disagree with. If you are polite and reasonable I respond in kind. If you are a foul mouthed jackass than I don’t owe you or your argument any respect. I rarely use any of the obscene or disgustingly vulgar language many on this forum do. I don’t understand the need for vulgar insults involving perverse acts. Maybe I’m not edgy enough? ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2017, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republitrolls/777646/89 "2017-01-21T21:27:06Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > I’m appalled. I put you at the top of the list where you’d get all the attention, and you’re not grateful? You attack me for this? Next time you’ll just be left between Clothy and OMG. BTW, they have mastered removing their head from their asses on occasion, a skill you really need to learn. There is so much they can teach you. I am grateful. And I’m not attacking you for that. Aside from your nutty, treasonous secessionist stance I think you are alright. ---
**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2017, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republitrolls/777646/90 "2017-01-21T21:33:59Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > You are correct. I treat the jackasses on this forum better than they treat me and others they disagree with. If you are polite and reasonable I respond in kind. If you are a foul mouthed jackass than I don’t owe you or your argument any respect. I rarely use any of the obscene or disgustingly vulgar language many on this forum do. > > I don’t understand the need for vulgar insults involving perverse acts. Maybe I’m not edgy enough? See, this is trolling, because obviously you do. You like getting into twitter fights, just like Trump. Again, it doesn’t matter if you sincerely think liberals are idiots to make you a troll. The same literal post can make you a troll in one context and just a “me too” braindead AOLer in another context. “Herp derp, Republicans are tards” is trolling when you post it for a conservative audience, but it’s merely unhelpful and pathetic when you post it for a liberal audience. Same person posting the same thing that they sincerely believe, in one context trolling, in another not trolling. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2017, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republitrolls/777646/91 "2017-01-21T21:49:00Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > You are correct. I treat the jackasses on this forum better than they treat me and others they disagree with. If you are polite and reasonable I respond in kind. If you are a foul mouthed jackass than I don’t owe you or your argument any respect. I rarely use any of the obscene or disgustingly vulgar language many on this forum do. > > I don’t understand the need for vulgar insults involving perverse acts. Maybe I’m not edgy enough? That has not been my experience with you, but if you feel that you have responded to my posts respectfully, then I will assume that that I misunderstood the vitriol you posted at me. Now, I find it’s alot of work to keep all of you straight, so it seems like quite a bit of work to try to treat everyone the way they treated me. I could make a mistake, and assume that someone was more inflammatory than they meant to be, and react based on my perception of their post, rather than their intent. I could err on the side of being more inflammatory than they were. I could completely fuck up and think I am responding to a different poster who has attacked me, and I attack “back” unjustifiably." I find it much much easier to try to treat others with the kind of respect that I would like to have towards my own posts. As far as language, it is perfectly damn possible to have a shitty vocabulary, and still be pretty fucking pleasant. It is also possible, with no profanity whatsoever, to be hostile and unpleasant. As far as vulgar or perverse acts, I’d have to see an example of what you are talking about, (preferably not in the pit, as whatever… like I said, if you are offended, or take attitude away from here, don’t post or read here.) to determine whether it was appropriate. ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2017, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republitrolls/777646/92 "2017-01-21T21:50:25Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > As far as language, it is perfectly damn possible to have a shitty vocabulary, and still be pretty fucking pleasant. > > It is also possible, with no profanity whatsoever, to be hostile and unpleasant. Bless your heart 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omg_a_Black_Conservative)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2017, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republitrolls/777646/93 "2017-01-21T22:11:46Z")
Most people on this board are pretty far to the left (and disconnected from reality), so it’s natural that when someone with a firmer grasp of the real world comes along (a conservative), y’all would think they were trolls. In six years, I’ve not seen a single conservative here who hasn’t been deemed a troll. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2017, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republitrolls/777646/94 "2017-01-21T22:24:51Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > I am grateful. And I’m not attacking you for that. Aside from your nutty, treasonous secessionist stance I think you are alright. See, even you have an occasional moment of clarity. Well, three words worth anyway. Are you planning on continuing treatment now that you’re losing your Obamacare? ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2017, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republitrolls/777646/95 "2017-01-21T22:27:42Z")
> [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](#): > > Most people on this board are pretty far to the left (and disconnected from reality), so it’s natural that when someone with a firmer grasp of the real world comes along (a conservative), y’all would think they were trolls. No, it’s people tha make comments like this one, dismissing any and all thought and opinion of those who do not align with yuor political beliefs that tend to be poorly thought of. > [@](#): > > In six years, I’ve not seen a single conservative here who hasn’t been deemed a troll. Go up thread a bit, and you’ll see a list of conservative posters who are explicitly not considered trolls, and you would see that those who are, there is not a consensus upon most. If you are saying that there has never been a conservative poster who was never called a troll be anyone at all, you may be right, but I am pretty sure that every poster on here, at one time or another, was thought of as being a troll by someone. And, there are quite a number of posters who, while they are not trolls, do occasionally engage in rather trolling behavior, so accusations of trolling are not the same as accusations of being a troll. ---
**Author:** ![inscrutable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a88e4f/32.png) [@inscrutable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/inscrutable)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2017, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republitrolls/777646/96 "2017-01-21T22:29:07Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Perhaps it is. Perhaps the tone of condescension and smug yet unearned superiority leads to unfortunate backlashes and alienates those who are on the fence? > > A few thousand people less annoyed by left wing nuttery and Mrs. Clinton would be president today. QFT ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2017, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republitrolls/777646/97 "2017-01-21T22:29:56Z")
> [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](#): > > Most people on this board are pretty far to the left (and disconnected from reality), so it’s natural that when someone with a firmer grasp of the real world comes along (a conservative), y’all would think they were trolls. > > In six years, I’ve not seen a single conservative here who hasn’t been deemed a troll. I’m pretty sure **Bricker** has never seriously been called a troll. Highly partisan but not a troll. Chalk up another wrong for **OMG**. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2017, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republitrolls/777646/98 "2017-01-21T22:34:11Z")
> [@inscrutable](#): > > QFT I have rarely seen someone who is okay with stomping on another person’s rights and life converted by being polite (which usually means “don’t point out anything bad about their beliefs; just shut up and take it”). ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2017, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republitrolls/777646/99 "2017-01-21T22:36:01Z")
> [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](#): > > Most people on this board are pretty far to the left (and disconnected from reality), so it’s natural that when someone with a firmer grasp of the real world comes along (a conservative), y’all would think they were trolls. > > In six years, I’ve not seen a single conservative here who hasn’t been deemed a troll. **BigT** posted a nice list of respected conservatives who regularly post here. I guess you missed it. Here’s the short version of his post; your name was noticeably missing. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2017, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republitrolls/777646/100 "2017-01-21T22:37:10Z")
> [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](#): > > Most people on this board are pretty far to the left (and disconnected from reality), so it’s natural that when someone with a firmer grasp of the real world comes along (a conservative), y’all would think they were trolls. > > In six years, I’ve not seen a single conservative here who hasn’t been deemed a troll. This demonstrates the biggest reason why I’m glad I joined the Navy - I served with all kinds of people, and it forced me to get over the juvenile stance that people who disagreed with me were just divorced from reality, or stupid, or dishonest. No, it taught me that depending on their experiences, thoughtful and decent people can reach very different conclusions. It’s a shame that this juvenile belief is so widespread, though. Even though we disagree, I believe that you, OMG, came about your positions honestly, and you’re probably a decent guy, even if you think I’m divorced from reality because I’m generally liberal. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republitrolls/777646.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/republitrolls/777646.md?page=6)