# Repubs have formed an openly racist caucus **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 17, 2021, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repubs-have-formed-an-openly-racist-caucus/940207 "2021-04-17T12:56:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2021, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repubs-have-formed-an-openly-racist-caucus/940207/261 "2021-04-18T17:13:02Z")
I had a Swedish roommate in university who insisted on eating rye crisp bread (with fish and mustard) every morning instead of glorious white bread. But I didn’t read much into that. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2021, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repubs-have-formed-an-openly-racist-caucus/940207/262 "2021-04-18T17:20:14Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > Oh, you know, valuing freedom of expression, and of religion, **and _from_ religion** Aaah, _now_ we’re pointing at the Caliph in the woodpile… ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2021, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repubs-have-formed-an-openly-racist-caucus/940207/263 "2021-04-18T17:22:59Z")
The whole exercise was about signaling to “their people” what they stood for: that to be a good American you are to (a) _completely assimilate_ in expression, style and “values” to “traditional American” ways, except perhaps for some cuisine, _to the point you become indistinguishable from a White-Anglo_ citizen and (b) until then, _or else forever if that indistinguishability is impossible_ visually by skin color or aurally by the grammar of your name, then accept that you may get equal economic and labor rights but you will just _ **never** _ hold and exert power to guide in which direction the values of society will move, that is _only_ reserved for the “traditional Americans” who are the heirs of the Founders. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2021, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repubs-have-formed-an-openly-racist-caucus/940207/264 "2021-04-18T17:50:00Z")
> [@Drsunflower1](#): > > First of all they’re not aliens, they’re People. Human beings. JUST LIKE YOU. In all grammatical fairness, people who are not citizens of a country are alien to that country. ---
**Author:** ![Drsunflower1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drsunflower1/32/12711_2.png) [@Drsunflower1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drsunflower1)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2021, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repubs-have-formed-an-openly-racist-caucus/940207/265 "2021-04-18T18:13:52Z")
In that case foreigner might be more appropriate. But I’m not a native speaker so perhaps you’re right. Love your avatar btw. Mallet 'O Understanding is a household expression with us 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2021, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repubs-have-formed-an-openly-racist-caucus/940207/266 "2021-04-18T18:42:56Z")
A heartening development in grim times… **Greene Cancels Launch Of Nativist Caucus After Outcry From Fellow GOPers** [https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/greene-cancel-launch-america-first-caucus](https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/greene-cancel-launch-america-first-caucus) Wasn’t _that_ damn quick! Didn’t just teeter and collapse, downright crushed. Even the Bland American Bund couldn’t choke it down! ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2021, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repubs-have-formed-an-openly-racist-caucus/940207/267 "2021-04-18T18:48:54Z")
> [@Dr\_Paprika](#): > > Presumably many people with racist views are already more likely to vote for Republicans or future Trump-inspired candidates. An appeal to architecture is not going to expand the party. This would seem to go against future demographics needed to win national elections, and the degree of modern enlightenment that exists. Anyone who cares about serious issues has left the Republican party. The Democrats will deliver on all of those issues. So if you’re a voter who cares about something like the economy, national security, good law enforcement, the environment, education, equal rights, public welfare, fiscal responsibility, health care, crisis management, foreign relations, or the infrastructure, you’re voting Democratic. The only issue that the Democrats aren’t delivering on is bigotry. So if you’re somebody who thinks somebody else needs to be held down, you’re voting Republican. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2021, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repubs-have-formed-an-openly-racist-caucus/940207/268 "2021-04-18T18:52:35Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Anyone who cares about serious issues has left the Republican party. Apparently that wasn’t too high a percentage of them. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2021, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repubs-have-formed-an-openly-racist-caucus/940207/269 "2021-04-18T19:02:30Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > > [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > > > Anyone who cares about serious issues has left the Republican party > > Apparently that wasn’t too high a percentage of them. I feel it was. If there really was a majority of people in this country who supported bigotry, the Republicans wouldn’t need to suppress voting. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2021, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repubs-have-formed-an-openly-racist-caucus/940207/270 "2021-04-18T19:21:22Z")
It wasn’t that her plan was too racist for Republicans, but that it was too obviously racist. She has yet to learn the Republican (im)plausible deniability trick. Even if no one buys it, as long as they have a strand to hold on to. She’ll get there. Maybe she needs a mentor. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2021, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repubs-have-formed-an-openly-racist-caucus/940207/271 "2021-04-18T19:35:39Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > …but if he’s running against someone who says, oh, hey, I disagree about culture, _and_ about contributing economically, _and_ about the rule of law, then I’m raising multiple eyebrows at that guy But there aren’t people like that. That is not who the Fascist Caucus is running against. No one wants anarchy. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2021, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repubs-have-formed-an-openly-racist-caucus/940207/272 "2021-04-18T20:10:49Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > > [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > > > …but if he’s running against someone who says, oh, hey, I disagree about culture, _and_ about contributing economically, _and_ about the rule of law, then I’m raising multiple eyebrows at that guy > > But there aren’t people like that. That is not who the Fascist Caucus is running against. No one wants anarchy. I figure that some folks want open borders, and say so; and that some folks want open borders, and _don’t_ say so, but instead limit themselves to talking about decriminalizing border crossings, and maybe providing amnesty to anyone who’s been here for a while, and so on, and so on; and that some, who don’t _especially_ want open borders, want to decriminalize border crossings or grant amnesty, and say so — but could, before long, be persuaded to give more and more to _the first two types_; and that some want to decriminalize border crossings and grant amnesty, but (a) won’t explicitly say so, and (b) could be persuaded into going even further; and that some folks don’t especially want to decriminalize border crossings or grant amnesty, but aren’t too far off from okaying all of it and maybe more; and some of ‘em _wouldn’t_ budge into getting it wrong. I’d of course be in no hurry to vote for the first type or the second; but the second type tries to sound a lot like the third, and the fourth a lot like the fifth. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2021, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repubs-have-formed-an-openly-racist-caucus/940207/273 "2021-04-18T20:12:50Z")
Speaking of types… The type who uses racist bullshit to further a racist shit world will totally never get my vote or my defensive excusal. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2021, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repubs-have-formed-an-openly-racist-caucus/940207/274 "2021-04-18T20:21:05Z")
I think one of the most immediate and glaring flaws in your theory is that Democrats have a pretty long history, at this point, of electing Presidents who curry favor with the left wing of their party, and then tack to the center when in office. Ignoring for the moment that your bogeyman is only as legitimate as the “Biden and Harris are Socialists” line that was bandied about so frequently in the last election. ETA: and add my name to the list of those who have already suggested that it seems awfully weird to take so many bites out of an unassuming, unprepossessing, and unabashed _shit sandwich_ and repeatedly note how tasty the bread is\*. \*See "Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how _did_ you like the play ? ---
**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2021, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repubs-have-formed-an-openly-racist-caucus/940207/275 "2021-04-18T21:00:40Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > I’d of course be in no hurry to vote for the first type or the second; The first and second types are made up boogeymen you gullible fucking nitwit. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2021, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repubs-have-formed-an-openly-racist-caucus/940207/276 "2021-04-18T21:11:29Z")
> [@DavidNRockies](#): > > I think one of the most immediate and glaring flaws in your theory is that Democrats have a pretty long history, at this point, of electing Presidents who curry favor with the left wing of their party, and then tack to the center when in office. > > Ignoring for the moment that your bogeyman is only as legitimate as the “Biden and Harris are Socialists” line that was bandied about so frequently in the last election. As well you should. After all, there’s a reason why I wound up voting for Biden and Harris: I figured they’re less likely to do stupid stuff than Trump and Pence. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2021, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repubs-have-formed-an-openly-racist-caucus/940207/277 "2021-04-18T21:24:02Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > Oh, you know, valuing freedom of expression, and of religion, and _from_ religion; and otherwise agreeing to enshrine various individual rights as Constitutional protections, while engaging in free-market transactions as a law-abiding citizen who does their duty when it comes to serving on a jury or casting a vote in an election and all that other stuff If that’s what you mean by respecting culture, seems to me your primary concern should be the Republican party, and not Mexican immigrants. ---
**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2021, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repubs-have-formed-an-openly-racist-caucus/940207/278 "2021-04-18T21:24:56Z")
LOL. It’s pretty comical that @The_Other_Waldo_Pepper feels strongly that, “Illegal immigration must be stopped without exception,” and even more strongly opposes the only possible workable solution to that problem. Cognitive dissonance is the polite way to describe people like Waldo who are just too fucking dumb to get out of their own way. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2021, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repubs-have-formed-an-openly-racist-caucus/940207/279 "2021-04-18T21:25:06Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > > [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > > > Oh, you know, valuing freedom of expression, and of religion, and _from_ religion; and otherwise agreeing to enshrine various individual rights as Constitutional protections, while engaging in free-market transactions as a law-abiding citizen who does their duty when it comes to serving on a jury or casting a vote in an election and all that other stuff > > If that’s what you mean by respecting culture, seems to me your primary concern should be the Republican party, and not Mexican immigrants. I’m concerned about both. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2021, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repubs-have-formed-an-openly-racist-caucus/940207/280 "2021-04-18T21:26:07Z")
> [@Lance\_Turbo](#): > > LOL. It’s pretty comical that @The_Other_Waldo_Pepper feels strongly that, “Illegal immigration must be stopped without exception,” and even more strongly opposes the only possible workable solution to that problem. The _only_ possible workable solution? Sounds like a failure of imagination on your part. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repubs-have-formed-an-openly-racist-caucus/940207.md?page=13) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repubs-have-formed-an-openly-racist-caucus/940207.md?page=15)