# Repubs have formed an openly racist caucus **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 17, 2021, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repubs-have-formed-an-openly-racist-caucus/940207 "2021-04-17T12:56:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 17
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2021, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repubs-have-formed-an-openly-racist-caucus/940207/321 "2021-04-20T15:05:02Z")
Read it and weep: > [@The Biden Administration - the first 1,500 days \[NOT an Afghanistan discussion\]](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-biden-administration-the-first-1-500-days/925057/540): > > Well, you’d originally written “deal with them humanely, or to simply prevent them from crossing by any means, up to and including lethal?” And I figured that framing left more possibilities open than, well, This-Or-Not-This. The 13th Amendment says that neither slavery nor involuntary servitude shall exist within the United States except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted. I propose that we make that a punishment for illegally crossing the border; we… ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2021, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repubs-have-formed-an-openly-racist-caucus/940207/322 "2021-04-20T16:38:19Z")
> [@Eonwe](#): > > > [@Eonwe](#): > > > > > [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > > > > > I guess I’d say that illegal aliens are _arriving_ en masse; “imported” seems like an odd way of phrasing it, but that seems like a quibble compared to the fact of it. > > > > > [@](#): > > > > > > _Illegal_ immigrants. > > > > So you agree with the statement, as long as you can add and subtract words to make it mean what you imagine it means? You think these are ‘quibbles’? > > > > “foreign citizens are being imported en-masse” is the same phrase as “illegal immigrants are arriving en-masse”? The difference in wording that you’ve introduced is immaterial to the intent of the speaker? > > > > Also, I’m struggling to understand what you find “sensible” about this paragraph. Still trying to understand the following: > > > > > [@Eonwe](#): > > > > > > How does this threaten “political unity”? What does “political unity” mean? > > > > > > How does it threaten “societal trust”? What does “societal trust” mean? > > Still wondering if you’ve got answers to any of this? I figured that it was meant to guide off the stuff of the citizenship oath: isn’t the idea that, y’know, immigrants who come here legally renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty of whom or which they’ve heretofore been a subject or citizen — instead vowing to support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic, as well as agreeing to perform work of national importance and thus and such? That strikes me as the stuff of political unity; and that’s why we can have societal trust in programs that can bail out our fellow citizens — such that enough millions of illegal aliens, having done the _opposite_ of that, would make it that much harder to pitch solutions that wind up helping out folks _other_ than our fellow citizens while they fail to contribute positively to the country they haven’t vowed to support and defend and et cetera. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2021, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repubs-have-formed-an-openly-racist-caucus/940207/323 "2021-04-20T17:14:52Z")
Why do you think that millions of immigrants living in the US have “done the opposite” of protecting and upholding the Constitution? Did they stage an attack on Congress in an attempt to overturn a free and fair election or something? ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2021, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repubs-have-formed-an-openly-racist-caucus/940207/324 "2021-04-20T17:19:13Z")
I’m sure there was at least one immigrant participating in the attack on Jan 6, someone will find that person and use that as an excuse to insist that we close our borders and deport anyone who looks swarthy. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2021, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repubs-have-formed-an-openly-racist-caucus/940207/325 "2021-04-20T17:21:03Z")
The vast majority of immigrants, both documented and undocumented, would make as good or better Americans then the average American, by my experience. In general, immigrants are harder working, more entrepreneurial, and more devoted to the country - pretty much by definition. The majority had to go to serious effort and take major risks to get here. Welcoming most of them regardless of their documentation would make the country wealthier and stronger (meaning there should be borders and border controls and it should generally be relatively easy to immigrate, and rejections should generally only be based on criminal or terrorist behavior/sympathies or similar). The only reason, aside from butt dumb ignorance, to oppose this, would be the desire to keep America majority white. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2021, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repubs-have-formed-an-openly-racist-caucus/940207/326 "2021-04-20T17:29:25Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Welcoming most of them regardless of their documentation would make the country wealthier and stronger (meaning there should be borders and border controls and it should generally be relatively easy to immigrate, and rejections should generally only be based on criminal or terrorist behavior/sympathies or similar). That right there should be the totality of the US immigration policy. Borders and border controls to protect the country from actual threats, otherwise welcoming people. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2021, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repubs-have-formed-an-openly-racist-caucus/940207/327 "2021-04-20T17:35:39Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > I’m sure there was at least one immigrant participating in the attack on Jan 6, someone will find that person and use that as an excuse to insist that we close our borders and deport anyone who looks swarthy. Not using Franklin’s definition of ‘swarthy’ of course! ---
**Author:** ![Johanna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johanna/32/8318_2.png) [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2021, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repubs-have-formed-an-openly-racist-caucus/940207/328 "2021-04-20T19:03:37Z")
_Oye como va mi ritmo_ _Bueno pa’ **Gosar** , ¡mulata!_ 🥁🎶 ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2021, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repubs-have-formed-an-openly-racist-caucus/940207/329 "2021-04-20T19:58:44Z")
Here is a history of the term “Anglo-Saxon”, as used by racists in the US. > **[‘Anglo-Saxon’ Is What You Say When ‘Whites Only’ Is Too Inclusive](https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/04/anglo-saxon-what-you-say-when-whites-only-too-inclusive/618646/)** > > A new message proves too toxic for the Republican Party. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2021, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repubs-have-formed-an-openly-racist-caucus/940207/330 "2021-04-20T20:19:26Z")
A “new message”? ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2021, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repubs-have-formed-an-openly-racist-caucus/940207/331 "2021-04-20T23:09:34Z")
WaPo quasi-humor columnist Alexandra Petri interviews the America First Caucus: [Opinion: We are the Anglo-Saxon caucus! Let us have maethlfrith! Let us have drihtinbeage!](https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/04/19/real-anglo-saxon-america-first-caucus-marjorie-taylor-greene/) > **[Opinion | We are the Anglo-Saxon caucus! Let us have maethlfrith! Let us have...](https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/04/19/real-anglo-saxon-america-first-caucus-marjorie-taylor-greene/)** > > Let us give way before the law of Aethelberht! ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2021, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repubs-have-formed-an-openly-racist-caucus/940207/332 "2021-04-20T23:53:23Z")
“make America [Geat](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Geat#:~:text=%3A%20a%20member%20of%20a%20Scandinavian,the%20legendary%20hero%20Beowulf%20belonged)again” is hands-down the best phrase in that article, or possibly in all of recorded journalism. Apropos of which, Dr\_Paprika, I’m a little disappointed that your article didn’t mention the recent quip “it’s not a dogwhistle, it’s an anglosaxophone”. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2021, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repubs-have-formed-an-openly-racist-caucus/940207/333 "2021-04-21T00:11:39Z")
Would have been Aethelred, but he wasn’t ready. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2021, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repubs-have-formed-an-openly-racist-caucus/940207/334 "2021-04-21T00:25:12Z")
What a bunch of Cnuts. ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2021, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repubs-have-formed-an-openly-racist-caucus/940207/335 "2021-04-21T00:41:29Z")
It’s an Anglo-Saxon Klaxon. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2021, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repubs-have-formed-an-openly-racist-caucus/940207/336 "2021-04-21T01:03:24Z")
A kkklaxon. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2021, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repubs-have-formed-an-openly-racist-caucus/940207/337 "2021-04-21T01:13:30Z")
I haven’t heard that, but it is funny. I heard the price of pandemic tinder is three times higher than normal in Canada, so possibly more in the US. And it wasn’t cheap to build a mead-hall before… (hangs head) ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2021, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repubs-have-formed-an-openly-racist-caucus/940207/338 "2021-04-21T01:27:09Z")
Lood sing “Goddam!”. ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2021, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repubs-have-formed-an-openly-racist-caucus/940207/339 "2021-04-21T06:18:06Z")
If we’re going that route, may I suggest “[Lhude sing cuccu](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumer_is_icumen_in)” (“Loudly sing, cuckoo!”). ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2021, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repubs-have-formed-an-openly-racist-caucus/940207/340 "2021-04-21T11:54:47Z")
> [@Dr\_Paprika](#): > > Here is a history of the term “Anglo-Saxon”, as used by racists in the US. I don’t like this. It has the potential to make Lewis Carroll look racist. [Anglo-Saxon Attitudes - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Saxon_Attitudes#:~:text=%22Anglo%2DSaxon%20attitudes%22%20is,her%20eyes%20with%20one%20hand.&text='He's%20an%20Anglo%2DSaxon%20Messenger,does%20them%20when%20he's%20happy). Carroll had his issues, but racism, as far as I know, wasn’t one of them [Lewis Carroll - RationalWiki](https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Lewis_Carroll)’ [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repubs-have-formed-an-openly-racist-caucus/940207.md?page=16) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repubs-have-formed-an-openly-racist-caucus/940207.md?page=18)