# Repubs unveil new ethics plan **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 17, 2006, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repubs-unveil-new-ethics-plan/340405 "2006-01-17T20:32:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repubs-unveil-new-ethics-plan/340405/1 "2006-01-17T20:32:02Z")
Apparently now they’ve decided they should [have some](http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060117/ap_on_go_co/congress_ethics). ---
**Author:** ![SkipMagic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skipmagic/32/20706_2.png) [@SkipMagic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SkipMagic)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repubs-unveil-new-ethics-plan/340405/2 "2006-01-17T22:08:32Z")
This looks like it’s better-suited for the Pit. I’ll move it there for you. ---
**Author:** ![Jpeg\_Jones](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/4bbf92/32.png) [@Jpeg\_Jones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jpeg_Jones)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repubs-unveil-new-ethics-plan/340405/3 "2006-01-17T22:14:32Z")
In other news, giant pandas have announced their intent to fly a manned bamboo capsule to Neptune. ---
**Author:** ![UncleBeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/977dab/32.png) [@UncleBeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBeer)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repubs-unveil-new-ethics-plan/340405/4 "2006-01-17T22:17:04Z")
> [@Otto](#): > > Apparently now they’ve decided they should [have some](http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060117/ap_on_go_co/congress_ethics). Yup. Time to emplace some lobbying ethics guidelines in the vacuum left by 40 years of Democratic Congressional control. What’s your fucking point? The dems had years and years to implement some control of lobbying ethics, but I see that their plan is gonna be unveiled tomorrow. That’s a hell of a planning period. ---
**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repubs-unveil-new-ethics-plan/340405/5 "2006-01-17T22:20:08Z")
**Otto** , a **Reeder** for the 21st century. Weak. ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repubs-unveil-new-ethics-plan/340405/6 "2006-01-17T22:41:57Z")
> [@Otto](#): > > Apparently now they’ve decided they should [have some](http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060117/ap_on_go_co/congress_ethics). This won’t apply to the president right? He _has to_ stay above all this to keep us safe from the terrorists. ---
**Author:** ![Plynck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Plynck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plynck)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repubs-unveil-new-ethics-plan/340405/7 "2006-01-17T23:00:29Z")
> [@SkipMagic](#): > > This looks like it’s better-suited for the Pit. I’ll move it there for you. Huh. Based on the title, I would have thought it better tacked onto the end of [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=354349). 😃 Smart move, showing McCain in the photo; most folks think of him as an ethical guy. A little less smart showing [Santorum](http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06013/637267.stm), to my mind. ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repubs-unveil-new-ethics-plan/340405/8 "2006-01-17T23:37:41Z")
> [@friedo](#): > > **Otto** , a **Reeder** for the 21st century. > > Weak. First off, fuck you. Secondly, I didn’t put this in the Pit, a mod did. > [@UncleBeer](#): > > Yup. Time to emplace some lobbying ethics guidelines in the vacuum left by 40 years of Democratic Congressional control. What’s your fucking point? The Republicans, except for an all-too-brief recapture of the Senate when Jim Jeffords wised up and went independent, have had control of Congress since, what, 1996? And all three branches of the federal government since 2001. And this was a party whose presidential candidate campaigned on the platform of “bringing honor back to government” after a series of manufactured “scandals” and a few blow jobs. > [@UncleBeer](#): > > The dems had years and years to implement some control of lobbying ethics, but I see that their plan is gonna be unveiled tomorrow. And…exactly how well received have Democrat-sponsored initiatives been received in Congress over the last decade? Of course, by your logic, one could ask where the Republicans were during the 40 years of Democratic control in offering their ethics reform plans… ---
**Author:** ![ExTank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/35a633/32.png) [@ExTank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ExTank)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repubs-unveil-new-ethics-plan/340405/9 "2006-01-17T23:48:07Z")
> [@Otto](#): > > Apparently now they’ve decided they should [have some](http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060117/ap_on_go_co/congress_ethics). We pillage, we plunder, we rifle and loot. Drink up me 'earties, Yo Ho! We kidnap and ravage and don’t give a hoot. Drink up me 'earties, Yo Ho! Yo Ho, Yo Ho! A pirate’s life for me. We extort, we pilfer, we filch and sack. Drink up me 'earties, Yo Ho! Maraud and embezzle and even hijack. Drink up me 'earties, Yo Ho! Yo Ho, Yo Ho! A pirate’s life for me. Yo Ho, Yo Ho! A pirate’s life for me. We kindle and char, inflame and ignite. Drink up me 'earties, Yo Ho! We burn up the city, we’re really a fright. Drink up me 'earties, Yo Ho! Yo Ho, Yo Ho! A pirate’s life for me. We’re rascals, scoundrels, villans and knaves. Drink up me 'earties, Yo Ho! We’re devils and black sheep, really bad eggs! Drink up me 'earties, Yo Ho! Yo Ho, Yo Ho! A pirate’s life for me. We’re beggars and blighters and ne’er-do-well cads. Drink up me 'earties, Yo Ho! Aye! But we’re loved by our mommies and dads! Drink up me 'earties, Yo Ho! Yo Ho, Yo Ho! A pirate’s life for me. Yo Ho, Yo Ho! A pirate’s life for me. Yo Ho, Yo Ho! A pirate’s life for me. Yo Ho, Yo Ho! A pirate’s life for me. Does that about sum it up? ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2006, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repubs-unveil-new-ethics-plan/340405/10 "2006-01-17T23:49:13Z")
Preemptive attack to take the wind out of the Dem sails. ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2006, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repubs-unveil-new-ethics-plan/340405/11 "2006-01-18T00:29:22Z")
> [@ExTank](#): > > Does that about sum it up? It’s all good fun until you get caught: > [@](#): > > QUESTION: Mr. Speaker, if I could ask you a question, the Abramoff scandal is what has forced you into this position. A year ago, the things that you’re proposing would not have been politically possible for you to talk about. > > Why is the Congress reacting and why didn’t it act initially if all these are good ideas? > > HASTERT: Well, you know, a year ago most people around Congress couldn’t tell you who Jack Abramoff was and didn’t know who his associates were or what connections there are. [Dennis “We need to have the Ethics Committee up and running” Hastert](http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=59366) ---
**Author:** ![Patty\_O\_Furniture](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/96bed5/32.png) [@Patty\_O\_Furniture](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Patty_O_Furniture)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2006, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repubs-unveil-new-ethics-plan/340405/12 "2006-01-18T02:30:08Z")
> [@Plynck](#): > > Smart move, showing McCain in the photo; most folks think of him as an ethical guy. Hasn’t McCain been trying to get lobying reform implemented for years? Now all of a sudden there’s a mad rush from both sides to reform. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2006, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repubs-unveil-new-ethics-plan/340405/13 "2006-01-18T02:43:22Z")
> [@Jpeg Jones](#): > > In other news, giant pandas have announced their intent to fly a manned bamboo capsule to Neptune. HA! I KNEW IT!! Those sneaky bastards! ---
**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2006, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repubs-unveil-new-ethics-plan/340405/14 "2006-01-18T03:36:17Z")
> [@Otto](#): > > First off, fuck you. Secondly, I didn’t put this in the Pit, a mod did And what was the fucking point of the OP? Either you were trying to get one in under the radar or you’re too fucking dense to know it would end up here anyway. The douchebag tag would apply, but at least that every once in awhile leaves things smelling a bit better. Ah, fuck it. Douchebag. ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2006, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repubs-unveil-new-ethics-plan/340405/15 "2006-01-18T03:43:15Z")
> [@duffer](#): > > And what was the fucking point of the OP? Either you were trying to get one in under the radar or you’re too fucking dense to know it would end up here anyway. > > The douchebag tag would apply, but at least that every once in awhile leaves things smelling a bit better. > > Ah, fuck it. Douchebag. Careful, **Otto**. You piss off lil’ duffy and the next thing you know you’ll be subjected to such concentrated stupidity that you might just end up laughing yourself unconscious. **duffer** is funny because he thinks he isn’t a moron. It’s quite entertaining. Kind of like the kid in kindergarten whose mommy made him wear a helmet to school. -Joe ---
**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2006, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repubs-unveil-new-ethics-plan/340405/16 "2006-01-18T03:56:15Z")
You’re cute, Joe. It’s neat having someone like you around. Of course, if **Otto** is even marginally more honest than you, he’ll never see what I wrote. But good to see you’re still carrying whatever grudge (TORCH) you have for me. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2006, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repubs-unveil-new-ethics-plan/340405/17 "2006-01-18T04:29:37Z")
> [@Merijeek](#): > > Careful, **Otto**. You piss off lil’ duffy and the next thing you know you’ll be subjected to such concentrated stupidity that you might just end up laughing yourself unconscious. Oh, duffer knows I don’t pay any attention to him. ---
**Author:** ![MsRobyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/90ced4/32.png) [@MsRobyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsRobyn)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2006, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repubs-unveil-new-ethics-plan/340405/18 "2006-01-18T05:11:16Z")
This morning on NPR, I was listening to some Congressman running for majority leader. His reason for being elected? He didn’t take _as much_ money from Abramoff. Which is a little like bitching to your prof that you don’t deserve to fail for cheating because you didn’t cheat as badly as your neighbor did. Robin ---
**Author:** ![Annie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/858c86/32.png) [@Annie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2006, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repubs-unveil-new-ethics-plan/340405/19 "2006-01-18T05:26:21Z")
> [@MsRobyn](#): > > This morning on NPR, I was listening to some Congressman running for majority leader. His reason for being elected? He didn’t take _as much_ money from Abramoff. Which is a little like bitching to your prof that you don’t deserve to fail for cheating because you didn’t cheat as badly as your neighbor did. > > Robin That’s like saying “it’s just a _mild_ case of gonorrhea”! It’s not how much you got, it’s _that_ you got it. ---
**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2006, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repubs-unveil-new-ethics-plan/340405/20 "2006-01-18T06:14:12Z")
> [@Annie](#): > > That’s like saying “it’s just a _mild_ case of gonorrhea”! It’s not how much you got, it’s _that_ you got it. Well, to be fair, at least gonorrhea can be cured. Unlike politics of any stripe. [sub]Who the hell said that!?![/sub] [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/repubs-unveil-new-ethics-plan/340405.md?page=2)